Any AT'ers with the XP 1700+/1800+ T-Bred B's yet?

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: krabber

Originally posted by: bgeh

Originally posted by: krabber
Any1 know why my BIOS (Phoenix on ASUS A7N8x) reports my CPU temp as 47C, while the ASUS PC Pribe appln in WinXP reports it as 37C? Which one should I believe? Also is there any site that leads you throught setting up MBM5? mbm.livewiredev.com seems to be down.
And Oh, BTW, Stable @ 11.5*167=1920, 1.65VCore. I dont want to try go higher before clearing up my temp. issue. Cos it goes to 45 full load from inside the OS, and if the BIOS idle reports 47, who knows what that might be

try touching the heatsink to see whether it feels much hotter than your body temp or not.
if it feels around the same temp, then it's 37C
if it's much hotter than 37C, then your bios is right

Did that. my heatsink actually seems just about lukewarm/body temp. But then that might also mean that its not sinking up the proc. heat rt?

so ASUS PC Probe is correct.
usually no, the temp of the heatsink will be ~+2C of the die temp
or else your proc is beginning to smoke due to little or no contact, but i highly doubt it.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: bgeh

Originally posted by: krabber

Originally posted by: bgeh

Originally posted by: krabber
Any1 know why my BIOS (Phoenix on ASUS A7N8x) reports my CPU temp as 47C, while the ASUS PC Pribe appln in WinXP reports it as 37C? Which one should I believe? Also is there any site that leads you throught setting up MBM5? mbm.livewiredev.com seems to be down.
And Oh, BTW, Stable @ 11.5*167=1920, 1.65VCore. I dont want to try go higher before clearing up my temp. issue. Cos it goes to 45 full load from inside the OS, and if the BIOS idle reports 47, who knows what that might be

try touching the heatsink to see whether it feels much hotter than your body temp or not.
if it feels around the same temp, then it's 37C
if it's much hotter than 37C, then your bios is right

Did that. my heatsink actually seems just about lukewarm/body temp. But then that might also mean that its not sinking up the proc. heat rt?

so ASUS PC Probe is correct.
usually no, the temp of the heatsink will be ~+2C of the die temp
or else your proc is beginning to smoke due to little or no contact, but i highly doubt it.

The BIOS reads extremely high on the A7N8X. I used to get BIOS temps of 70C, meanwhile in Windows with the PC Probe it was 43ish under full load.

 

[krabber]

Originally posted by: BigJ2078

Originally posted by: bgeh

Originally posted by: krabber

Originally posted by: bgeh

Originally posted by: krabber
Any1 know why my BIOS (Phoenix on ASUS A7N8x) reports my CPU temp as 47C, while the ASUS PC Pribe appln in WinXP reports it as 37C? Which one should I believe? Also is there any site that leads you throught setting up MBM5? mbm.livewiredev.com seems to be down.
And Oh, BTW, Stable @ 11.5*167=1920, 1.65VCore. I dont want to try go higher before clearing up my temp. issue. Cos it goes to 45 full load from inside the OS, and if the BIOS idle reports 47, who knows what that might be

try touching the heatsink to see whether it feels much hotter than your body temp or not.
if it feels around the same temp, then it's 37C
if it's much hotter than 37C, then your bios is right

Did that. my heatsink actually seems just about lukewarm/body temp. But then that might also mean that its not sinking up the proc. heat rt?

so ASUS PC Probe is correct.
usually no, the temp of the heatsink will be ~+2C of the die temp
or else your proc is beginning to smoke due to little or no contact, but i highly doubt it.

The BIOS reads extremely high on the A7N8X. I used to get BIOS temps of 70C, meanwhile in Windows with the PC Probe it was 43ish under full load.

Oh ! 2400+ here I come

 

[bgeh]

good luck, krabber

 

[t0mmyb0y]

I'm at 11x160Mhz = 1760MHz and prime95ing as I type.

Does anyone have a link to a PR rating vs. clock speed comparison graph?

 

[Shimmishim]

if you have sisoft sandra, it'll tell you

 

[sirfergy]

I have an 1800+ T-Bred B running at 1920MHz with a core of 1.8 (set to 1.75 in bios) and my system temp at idle is 50. Under full load it goes up to 55.

My motherboard is an Asus A7V. Should I have any worries about these temperatures?

Thanks!

 

[Shimmishim]

they are a little high....

what cooling?

hs and fan?

 

[sirfergy]

It's a Thermaltake Volcano 6Cu.

Looking at their website, the Volcano 6Cu actually maxes out at 2100+, so that means I am running my CPU too fast for it. That might explain the heat. I guess I should buy a better heatsink/fan and maybe I can get more than 1900MHz out of it!

 

[Shimmishim]

yeah... the slk-800 - 900 are good to get

they do reduce the temps by like 4 to 6 degrees

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
yeah... the slk-800 - 900 are good to get

they do reduce the temps by like 4 to 6 degrees

Selling the Xp1700?

 

[sirfergy]

WOW! I just got a Volcano 9 and my temps dropped over 10 degrees!!!!! Now I gotta see how much higher I can go.

 

[sirfergy]

Alas, I still couldn't get any higher. I guess I'll just return it and stick with the Volcano 6. Much quieter.

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: t0mmyb0y
I'm at 11x160Mhz = 1760MHz and prime95ing as I type.

Does anyone have a link to a PR rating vs. clock speed comparison graph?

AMD Athlon XP 1600+ (266 MHz FSB) 1400 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 1700+ (266 MHz FSB) 1467 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (266 MHz FSB) 1533 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 1900+ (266 MHz FSB) 1600 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (266 MHz FSB) 1667 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 2100+ (266 MHz FSB) 1733 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 2200+ (266 MHz FSB) 1800 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (266 MHz FSB) 2000 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (266 MHz FSB) 2133 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (333 MHz FSB) 2083 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 2700+ (333 MHz FSB) 2166 MHz
AMD Athlon XP 2800+ (333 MHz FSB) 2250 MHz

so by looking to your clock speed, you are around the 2100+ - 2200+ level

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
yeah... the slk-800 - 900 are good to get

they do reduce the temps by like 4 to 6 degrees

i agree with shim, you can always get the SLK-800 and put a panaflo on it
that way, it'll be quiet and you'll still see a marked improvement

you also can get the SLK-900, but you'll need the 4 mobo mounting holes, though

 

[avzay66]

Right now JIUHB0302 1700+ running at 2243 195*11.5 at 1.8V. Does 2300 at 1.85 stable Prime95 running for 24+ hours. Not a bad chip for $50.....

 

[krabber]

Originally posted by: bgeh
good luck, krabber

Looks like I'll need much more than that . There's sth strange happening in my setup. This is what I have so far : Ati Radeon LE @ 275/260, 1700+ @ 11*150 = 1650. My A7N8X refuses to let me boot w/ any other multiplier. I ran async w/ 11*166 for the CPU and 150 MHz fsb, and it booted w/ no problems (ran 3dmark, SuperPi, Sandra CPU & Memory and Prime95'ed it for an hour). When I change the multiplier (even underclock), the BIOS says "CPU Overclock detected". I changed the Halt On to No Errors in the BIOS, and it doesnt stop at POST, but it just changes the multiplier back to 11 and comes up. Now, I have a DUT3C JUIHB and from what I understood, these were mutiplier unlocked in the nforce2 boards, rt? So why? Earlier I thot if I just disabled the Halt On, it would allow me a multiplier change. But NO, it just changes it right back to 11. Also, is running Sync that much better than running Async? Im restricted on the FSB, cos my stick of PNY wont let me do better than 152.
Looks like I have to settle for about 2100+. :disgust:

HEY! From this post, seems my BIOS is outdated. . Will upgrade and get back here. 2400+, here I come again on my own.

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: krabber

Originally posted by: bgeh
good luck, krabber

Looks like I'll need much more than that . There's sth strange happening in my setup. This is what I have so far : Ati Radeon LE @ 275/260, 1700+ @ 11*150 = 1650. My A7N8X refuses to let me boot w/ any other multiplier. I ran async w/ 11*166 for the CPU and 150 MHz fsb, and it booted w/ no problems (ran 3dmark, SuperPi, Sandra CPU & Memory and Prime95'ed it for an hour). When I change the multiplier (even underclock), the BIOS says "CPU Overclock detected". I changed the Halt On to No Errors in the BIOS, and it doesnt stop at POST, but it just changes the multiplier back to 11 and comes up. Now, I have a DUT3C JUIHB and from what I understood, these were mutiplier unlocked in the nforce2 boards, rt? So why? Earlier I thot if I just disabled the Halt On, it would allow me a multiplier change. But NO, it just changes it right back to 11. Also, is running Sync that much better than running Async? Im restricted on the FSB, cos my stick of PNY wont let me do better than 152.
Looks like I have to settle for about 2100+. :disgust:

HEY! From this post, seems my BIOS is outdated. . Will upgrade and get back here. 2400+, here I come again on my own.

i've read the other thread and i believe
it may be your ram beginning to falter

 

[Iovah]

I have a K7N2-L motherboard and there is nothing in my manual about dual ddr. Nothing in the bios about it nor on MSI's website or in the download manual about it. From my understanding all of the NForce2 Chipsets support it. I have tried all the configurations and it does not mention whether I am Using it or not I guess the next step is to try DMI, WMI or whatever that shows you all of that nifty information.

 

[bgeh]

download sisoft sandra and use memory bandwidth benchmark
compare it to the systems above
if it has higher bandwidth than most of the AMD systems, then dual ddr is allowed
there should be a nforce 2 mobo listed there
compare you memory bandwidth to it

 

[Iovah]

Yeah, I have been. It is a little below it, I first did a test @ pc2100 then I OC'd my PC2100 to PC2700 as well at the processor. And it is showing good values, I guess the highest nforce2 bench is int 2566 and float 2456 with an XP with FSB333. I got int 2564 and float 2416 that's with 2X256 Micron OC to PC2700 @ 3-3-3-8 2.6V. But does that mean I am in Dual Mode?

 

[Iovah]

Well I'm OC to 2088 MHz which equals that of a 2600+ @ 333FSB. Idle Temp is 41.5C according to sisoft. I wonder what it will be when I get my SLK-800 here rather then my Volcano9+ which I have loved so much. I am going to run Prime now to test it. I hope I get some more info back on the Dual DDR.

Thanks Bgeh

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Iovah
Well I'm OC to 2088 MHz which equals that of a 2600+ @ 333FSB. Idle Temp is 41.5C according to sisoft. I wonder what it will be when I get my SLK-800 here rather then my Volcano9+ which I have loved so much. I am going to run Prime now to test it. I hope I get some more info back on the Dual DDR.

Thanks Bgeh

you're welcome
and btw, it hought that the MSI K7N2-L doesn't have the PCI lock as per Evan's review

From Evan's nforce2 6-way Motherboard Roundup
We still haven't been able to get confirmation from MSI as to whether the K7N2-L locks the PCI bus at 33MHz. There is an AGP lock at 66MHz for this board (as with all nForce2 boards). We'll immediately update you with more information as we receive it from MSI. 12/04/02 UPDATE: MSI sends word that the K7N2-L indeed does not have a PCI bus lock at 33MHz, meaning you will overclock your PCI bus to a certain level at a certain overclocked FSB speed.

 

[gplracer]

I have my JIUHB week 51 up to 180x12=2170 with just 1.675v It idles at 39-40C. I might have to mod the north bridge on my 8RDA+ to get more speed. I have 3500 memory.

 

[Iovah]

Well the bios doesn't appear to have a locked PCI frequency, although from what I have read about the Nforce2 chipset is that the pci and agp frequency is automatically locked seperately. That's the way the chip is designed and the manufacturer can decide whether to allow it to be modded or not. Although I maybe wrong and I would say no MSI does not have a pci lock in the bios. It doesn't mean it's not locked because under sandra wouldn't it list what the PCI bus is at in MHz? Then we can get our answer because I would like know, because currently I have no PCI cards installed.

The hottest part of my board is the Voltage regulator IC's that's why they have those heatsinks on there. I think mine only is a 2 phase regulator unlike the epox and other brand boards. That's probably why the msi board has the 12 volt connector to add to it, just a theory. Oh yes so far so good running Prime smoothly at 51C just ran 3DMARK and now off to do PCMARK. Ouch it just jumped to 56C hmmmm now back down to 51C.

1700+ @ 2600+ @ 2088MHz
1.75V @ 12.5*166