Antifa just doxxed hundreds of neo-Nazis

[cytg111]

If you cant imagine an overlap between antifa and anonymous... then you need to turn off Fox.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I seem to be the only one that doesn't like this, not because I like neo-nazis but because it's the same thing as done with Eric Ciaramella.

 

[cytg111]

I seem to be the only one that doesn't like this, not because I like neo-nazis but because it's the same thing as done with Eric Ciaramella.

Nah you not alone. There are some subtle differences and consideration though. One being you are at war with these fuckers.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Nah you not alone. There are some subtle differences and consideration though. One being you are at war with these fuckers.

I understand that however if I embrace the justifications of my enemy then i am my enemy except for the cause. If someone is murdered are we to say, "well good, we need less of them"?

 

[FerrelGeek]

Precisely. I have no problem with shaming real neo-Nazis, but I'd hate to be the one that was falsely called out.

Only concern is how accurate is the list?

 

[thraashman]

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[randay]

when the shooting starts and the blood flows , will this be a good idea ?

depends on who got shot?

 

[Vic]

If you're ashamed of your speech, then maybe you should think twice before speaking it. This particular speech has a death toll. The neo-nazi clowns from this group murdered people, so they get no sympathy from me. And while I will defend their right to freely speak their hateful bullshit, I will also defend the right of everyone else to freely speak their condemnation of that hateful bullshit.

 

[WelshBloke]

Yeah I see that now, was going based off the original leaker on Twitter whom was apparently just reporting on it.

Oh well, regardless I still stand by the statement that no one from Antifa was the original leaker heh.

I'm not sure how you think that the anti-fascists are "organised" but I'm pretty sure that you are wrong!

 

[Vic]

I'm not sure how you think that the anti-fascists are "organised" but I'm pretty sure that you are wrong!

I stand by my opinion that that poster's biggest concern is finding a way to talk bad about antifa in a thread about murderous neo-nazis.

 

[Commodus]

My feelings on this are mixed.

Doxxing is generally wrong, including here. I prefer to lead by example rather that stoop to an opponent's level. But... I also won't feel sorry for the people from that forum. If they had their way, my sister-in-law and her family would be in a living hell.

 

[Meghan54]

My feelings on this are mixed.

Doxxing is generally wrong, including here. I prefer to lead by example rather that stoop to an opponent's level. But... I also won't feel sorry for the people from that forum. If they had their way, my sister-in-law and her family would be in a living hell.

You sure they'd be living?

 

[Commodus]

You sure they'd be living?

That's the scary bit... I'm being charitable because I know some neo-Nazis 'just' want to forcibly relocate non-whites.

 

[cytg111]

I understand that however if I embrace the justifications of my enemy then i am my enemy except for the cause. If someone is murdered are we to say, "well good, we need less of them"?

If you as a pacifist come up against a murderer. You dead. High ground? Ok! Still dead.
Its like going to a mma match with boxing gloves on thinking you gonna box. You are not.

 

[Juiblex]

If you're ashamed of your speech, then maybe you should think twice before speaking it. This particular speech has a death toll. The neo-nazi clowns from this group murdered people, so they get no sympathy from me. And while I will defend their right to freely speak their hateful bullshit, I will also defend the right of everyone else to freely speak their condemnation of that hateful bullshit.

And these neo-nazi's will also exercise their right to continue to run them over in vehicles. See, that's the problem. It's going to be this "eye for an eye", or revenge cycle that we see with gangs. One gang is called Antifa. The other one is called Neo-Nazi... But they will continue to dox, run each other over, hit each other over the head with steel batons. The cycle will repeat. Ones who continue to embrace this shit are just flying monkeys with no capability to see the big picture.

 

[woolfe9998]

What the hell. I'm opposed to the practice of doxing as a general rule, but there can always be an exception. Almost everyone says they don't support political assassinations, even someone they hate like Trump. I agree. But what is that old hypothetical, if you could go back in time and kill Hitler, would you do it? If there's an exception for Nazis even when it comes to assassination, I think we can make an exception for doxing. Fuck them.

I don't even care who did this. I'm just fine with it, and I'm not going to pretend otherwsie.

 

[Vic]

And these neo-nazi's will also exercise their right to continue to run them over in vehicles. See, that's the problem. It's going to be this "eye for an eye", or revenge cycle that we see with gangs. One gang is called Antifa. The other one is called Neo-Nazi... But they will continue to dox, run each other over, hit each other over the head with steel batons. The cycle will repeat. Ones who continue to embrace this shit are just flying monkeys with no capability to see the big picture.

How many people has the antifa gang run over in vehicles? Yaknow, besides none?

And BTW you missed the point of my post entirely. As in, you're not even remotely addressing anything I said but you somehow still found a way to make a personal attack.

 

[Victorian Gray]

And these neo-nazi's will also exercise their right to continue to run them over in vehicles. See, that's the problem. It's going to be this "eye for an eye", or revenge cycle that we see with gangs. One gang is called Antifa. The other one is called Neo-Nazi... But they will continue to dox, run each other over, hit each other over the head with steel batons. The cycle will repeat. Ones who continue to embrace this shit are just flying monkeys with no capability to see the big picture.

Again, one side thinks tossing folks in ovens is a good thing (and kills a few folks here and there) while the other side says, no fucking way (and doesn't kill folks here and there) but yeah, they're exactly the same.

 

[Vic]

Again, one side thinks tossing folks in ovens is a good thing (and kills a few folks here and there) while the other side says, no fucking way (and doesn't kill folks here and there) but yeah, they're exactly the same.

What he was really trying to say is that free speech he agrees with should not be subjected to any speech that condemns, criticizes, or disagrees with it, or else there must be violence. And we're the stupid monkeys encouraging that shit by not knowing our place and keeping our mouths shut.

 

[Victorian Gray]

What he was really trying to say is that free speech he agrees with should not be subjected to any speech that condemns, criticizes, or disagrees with it, or else there must be violence. And we're the stupid monkeys encouraging that shit by not knowing our place and keeping our mouths shut.

What he was 'trying to say'? It's pure, unadulterated propaganda aka bullshit. Fuck nazis/facists *and* their enablers *and* their apologists.

 

[Vic]

What he was 'trying to say'? It's pure, unadulterated propaganda aka bullshit. Fuck nazis/facists *and* their enablers *and* their apologists.

Well, I'm not a big fan of antifa either. I agree with their greater cause of being anti-fascist, but they need to stop the hooliganism and otherwise being useful idiots falling for the blatant trolling from the nazis/fascists and their enablers and apologists.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Well, I'm not a big fan of antifa either. I agree with their greater cause of being anti-fascist, but they need to stop the hooliganism and otherwise being useful idiots falling for the blatant trolling from the nazis/fascists and their enablers and apologists.

While some antifa related (and wanna be related) groups seem pretty fucking dumb I don't believe that you can say that about most of the groups around the world.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

If you as a pacifist come up against a murderer. You dead. High ground? Ok! Still dead.
Its like going to a mma match with boxing gloves on thinking you gonna box. You are not.

I'm not dead by choosing alternatives to put families at risk. If that's what we need then we really are executioners even if by proxy. Facing a murderer? Not pleasant but I have a motto- in omnia paratus.

 

[cytg111]

I'm not dead by choosing alternatives to put families at risk. If that's what we need then we really are executioners even if by proxy. Facing a murderer? Not pleasant but I have a motto- in omnia paratus.

Bringing a knife to a gunfight also springs to mind.

 

[Juiblex]

What he was really trying to say is that free speech he agrees with should not be subjected to any speech that condemns, criticizes, or disagrees with it, or else there must be violence. And we're the stupid monkeys encouraging that shit by not knowing our place and keeping our mouths shut.

I wasn't saying that at all.

I disagree with both groups. I think both Antifa and Neo Nazi alike are two sides of the same coin. I hold them to the same standard. But what I was attempting to say, and apparently I either did not explain it well: Is that when we get into a time where it's ok to ruin the lives of those who you disagree with politically, it's really a bad state of affairs. When the gloves come off, things will get dirty. Is that really where Antifa wants to go? Payback will be a bitch. Wanting to escalate the situation is going to backfire at some point. To me that doesn't sound wise. Antifa might doxx today, but the Neo Nazi's will run them over again at some point because of it. /shrug. Keep fighting the good fight though. But I won't b e crying next time an Antifa is run over or a rain of bullets comes crashing down. As far as the Neo Nazi's. the same applies to them.