Hayabusa Rider
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Well that's not certain eitherBringing a knife to a gunfight also springs to mind.
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Well that's not certain eitherBringing a knife to a gunfight also springs to mind.
A group that supports white supremacy and a group that opposes fascism are two sides to the same coin? It doesn't surprise me that you won't be sad when people fighting against fascism are killed.I wasn't saying that at all.
I disagree with both groups. I think both Antifa and Neo Nazi alike are two sides of the same coin. I hold them to the same standard. But what I was attempting to say, and apparently I either did not explain it well: Is that when we get into a time where it's ok to ruin the lives of those who you disagree with politically, it's really a bad state of affairs. When the gloves come off, things will get dirty. Is that really where Antifa wants to go? Payback will be a bitch. Wanting to escalate the situation is going to backfire at some point. To me that doesn't sound wise. Antifa might doxx today, but the Neo Nazi's will run them over again at some point because of it. /shrug. Keep fighting the good fight though. But I won't b e crying next time an Antifa is run over or a rain of bullets comes crashing down. As far as the Neo Nazi's. the same applies to them.
I wasn't saying that at all.
I disagree with both groups. I think both Antifa and Neo Nazi alike are two sides of the same coin. I hold them to the same standard. But what I was attempting to say, and apparently I either did not explain it well: Is that when we get into a time where it's ok to ruin the lives of those who you disagree with politically, it's really a bad state of affairs. When the gloves come off, things will get dirty. Is that really where Antifa wants to go? Payback will be a bitch. Wanting to escalate the situation is going to backfire at some point. To me that doesn't sound wise. Antifa might doxx today, but the Neo Nazi's will run them over again at some point because of it. /shrug. Keep fighting the good fight though. But I won't b e crying next time an Antifa is run over or a rain of bullets comes crashing down. As far as the Neo Nazi's. the same applies to them.
I wasn't saying that at all.
I disagree with both groups. I think both Antifa and Neo Nazi alike are two sides of the same coin. I hold them to the same standard. But what I was attempting to say, and apparently I either did not explain it well: Is that when we get into a time where it's ok to ruin the lives of those who you disagree with politically, it's really a bad state of affairs. When the gloves come off, things will get dirty. Is that really where Antifa wants to go? Payback will be a bitch. Wanting to escalate the situation is going to backfire at some point. To me that doesn't sound wise. Antifa might doxx today, but the Neo Nazi's will run them over again at some point because of it. /shrug. Keep fighting the good fight though. But I won't b e crying next time an Antifa is run over or a rain of bullets comes crashing down. As far as the Neo Nazi's. the same applies to them.
More elected neo-Nazis getting exposed, this time in Washington State and Idaho. Hey Nazis, if you’re gonna have a super-secret Signal group chat, make sure those invited aren’t sharing their credentials with journalists!
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Secret chats involving Republican lawmaker reveal fresh evidence of plots and paranoia
Messages from network involving Matt Shea provide insight into ‘patriot movement’ – and the extent of their conspiracy thinkingwww.theguardian.com
I'm sorry you feel that way. Have a nice day.Pure ignorance. Sad.
And damn, this guy really seems to have it in for the gays. So...99% chance he's raped a couple dozen little boys in his lifetime. Count on it.Holy shit, that guy was the number 3 repug in the House?
More on Shea:
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Why two allies of Washington state Rep. Matt Shea turned on the controversial lawmaker
As Shea's political problems mount, the roots of much of that turmoil can be traced back to election night 2016.www.seattletimes.com
Is there some method by which the GOP could expel the Nazis? Could they require background checks for anyone wanting to register as republican?I wonder if one of our resident republicans will ever get around to actually admitting that republicans have a very real, and very serious Nazi problem in their party. Do you think at least one of them can manage that, in a simple statement, without trying to build a house of straw at the same time?
Imagine if that were to ever happen!
Is there some method by which the GOP could expel the Nazis? Could they require background checks for anyone wanting to register as republican?
I know a few republicans, none of them condone nazisim, none of them want to be associated with Nazis.
You enjoy making that connection because you believe it taints every republican. But couldn't that association be made on a larger scale? Aren't those republican Nazis also american citizens? Wouldn't it be every bit as valid to say america has a Nazi problem?
I understand the desire to feel superior, to believe that you're better than others, but when that desire turns to the active promotion of hate it becomes a sickness. Nazis, Klansmen, skinheads, all of those groups are a minority, they use hate as a tool to make themselves feel superior, but the only people they're fooling is themselves.
When nazis run on the Republican ticket and get tens of thousands of votes, the Republicans have a nazi problem. If a nazi ran on the Republican ticket and got just a few votes, one could reasonably say that the Republicans don't have a nazi problem. With the leader of the Republican Party (Trump) pandering to nazis and the Republican nazis getting tens of thousands of votes, the Republican Party clearly is the party of choice for modern American nazis and the party clearly likes it this way.Is there some method by which the GOP could expel the Nazis? Could they require background checks for anyone wanting to register as republican?
I know a few republicans, none of them condone nazisim, none of them want to be associated with Nazis.
You enjoy making that connection because you believe it taints every republican. But couldn't that association be made on a larger scale? Aren't those republican Nazis also american citizens? Wouldn't it be every bit as valid to say america has a Nazi problem?
I understand the desire to feel superior, to believe that you're better than others, but when that desire turns to the active promotion of hate it becomes a sickness. Nazis, Klansmen, skinheads, all of those groups are a minority, they use hate as a tool to make themselves feel superior, but the only people they're fooling is themselves.
Is there some method by which the GOP could expel the Nazis? Could they require background checks for anyone wanting to register as republican?
I know a few republicans, none of them condone nazisim, none of them want to be associated with Nazis.
You enjoy making that connection because you believe it taints every republican. But couldn't that association be made on a larger scale? Aren't those republican Nazis also american citizens? Wouldn't it be every bit as valid to say america has a Nazi problem?
I understand the desire to feel superior, to believe that you're better than others, but when that desire turns to the active promotion of hate it becomes a sickness. Nazis, Klansmen, skinheads, all of those groups are a minority, they use hate as a tool to make themselves feel superior, but the only people they're fooling is themselves.
I'm sorry you feel that way. Have a nice day.
I agree 100% with your last paragraph, but at the same time, the Republicans could do a lot more to condemn those 'very fine people' among them. Or at least do something besides pretending they don't exist.
Is there some method by which the GOP could expel the Nazis? Could they require background checks for anyone wanting to register as republican?
I know a few republicans, none of them condone nazisim, none of them want to be associated with Nazis.
You enjoy making that connection because you believe it taints every republican. But couldn't that association be made on a larger scale? Aren't those republican Nazis also american citizens? Wouldn't it be every bit as valid to say america has a Nazi problem?
I understand the desire to feel superior, to believe that you're better than others, but when that desire turns to the active promotion of hate it becomes a sickness. Nazis, Klansmen, skinheads, all of those groups are a minority, they use hate as a tool to make themselves feel superior, but the only people they're fooling is themselves.
Is there some method by which the GOP could expel the Nazis? Could they require background checks for anyone wanting to register as republican?
I know a few republicans, none of them condone nazisim, none of them want to be associated with Nazis.
You enjoy making that connection because you believe it taints every republican. But couldn't that association be made on a larger scale? Aren't those republican Nazis also american citizens? Wouldn't it be every bit as valid to say america has a Nazi problem?
I understand the desire to feel superior, to believe that you're better than others, but when that desire turns to the active promotion of hate it becomes a sickness. Nazis, Klansmen, skinheads, all of those groups are a minority, they use hate as a tool to make themselves feel superior, but the only people they're fooling is themselves.
I agree that most Republicans don't like Nazis. The problem, however, is that modern GOP policies (especially under Trump) have a tendency to attract neo-Nazis, and the party has a demonstrated reluctance to deal with white supremacists in its ranks. It took how many years for Republicans to publicly chastise Steve King despite his long, demonstrated history of overtly racist sentiments? If the party rejected racism outright, it would demand King's immediate resignation from office.
Instead, there's a passive-aggressiveness where the GOP is willing to tolerate a degree of racism so long as it's contained in thinly veiled language or insincere "what I meant was..." denials. And there's a degree of hypocrisy -- GOP members will pay token compliments to MLK one day and blast black NFL players for protesting the next, as if civil disobedience in the name of equality is only allowed if you're dead and thus 'out of the way.' I don't doubt that there are many Republican supporters who are better than that, but they keep voting for a party that isn't.
Is there some method by which the GOP could expel the Nazis?
They could stop voting for the ones standing for election, they could stop covering up for them and they could stop pretending that they dont exist. They could loudly and unequivocally condemn them without doing a "but both sides" thing. They could stop pandering to them.
Nobody will defend Nazis and their ideology, but expect to see laws passed against doxxing when it is actually used to intimidate and harass the upper echelons of America that make the Nazis look like schoolyard bullies at best in the damage they have caused to this country.Meh, I'm not a big fan of doxxing, but I'm really not a fan of Nazis ideology, so oh well.
Nobody will defend Nazis and their ideology, but expect to see laws passed against doxxing when it is actually used to intimidate and harass the upper echelons of America that make the Nazis look like schoolyard bullies at best in the damage they have caused to this country.
Here is one example,
if they are started to be treated like some nobody nazi because of doxxing, will the same liberals defend doxxing or decry it especially if someone is triggered enough to take matters in their own hands Pizzagate style against the sackler family?
Nobody will defend Nazis and their ideology, but expect to see laws passed against doxxing when it is actually used to intimidate and harass the upper echelons of America that make the Nazis look like schoolyard bullies at best in the damage they have caused to this country.
Here is one example,
if they are started to be treated like some nobody nazi because of doxxing, will the same liberals defend doxxing or decry it especially if someone is triggered enough to take matters in their own hands Pizzagate style against the sackler family?
