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Anti Vaxxers Baw HaHaHa!

I wonder if it's a community of helicopter parents, or Hasidics?

Either way, good.

I don't find complaints about hiring sitters and tutors terribly sympathetic when their actions put other people's lives at risk.
 
The school
https://www.niche.com/k12/green-meadow-waldorf-school-chestnut-ridge-ny/

The impacted
The outbreak, which has mostly affected the Orthodox Jewish community in Spring Valley, Monsey and New Square, prompted Ruppert to impose an order in December that schools in the 10952 and 10977 ZIP codes with vaccination rates under 95 percent must keep unvaccinated children from attending.
https://www.asumag.com/fire-life-sa...-students-out-classes-new-york-private-school
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Rockland county is one of those places that are filled with people that when you meet them...you know they are from Rockland county.

As for the religious aspect, Rockland has something in the water.
 
Is there an Orthodox Jew component to avoiding vaccines?
I’m no expert so I could be wrong. Ive heard some vaccines in the past were incubated in pigs or eggs and I understand that objection however isn’t nearly every modern vaccine synthetic except the annual flu vaccine and a couple of others?
Am I an idiot spreading false information?
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Is there an Orthodox Jew component to avoiding vaccines?
I’m no expert so I could be wrong. Ive heard some vaccines in the past were incubated in pigs or eggs and I understand that objection however isn’t nearly every modern vaccine synthetic except the annual flu vaccine and a couple of others?
Am I an idiot spreading false information?
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https://www.vox.com/science-and-hea...s-new-york-orthodox-jewish-community-vaccines

Does not look like its about their religious beliefs.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Is there an Orthodox Jew component to avoiding vaccines?
I’m no expert so I could be wrong. Ive heard some vaccines in the past were incubated in pigs or eggs and I understand that objection however isn’t nearly every modern vaccine synthetic except the annual flu vaccine and a couple of others?
Am I an idiot spreading false information?
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Issue might be a lot of wig wearing stay at home moms glued to forwarded crap on their cell phones in tight social circles as they push kid #4 around at whatever hebrew school sponsored trip. Mom A posted an article about lead paint in vaccines and then mom b linked it with Palestinians and gay Rabbi gossip.

They may also be gluten free-common core opt outing while boy cotting Pearl Jam because Eddie Vedder said something nice about Palestinians in 1997.

In otherwords...I don't think its an Orthodox thing. It might be a Rockland county thing.
 
dank69 said:
Fucking Rand Paul. Conflate flu vaccines with measles vaccines like the conservative asshole he is.
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What do you expect from a doctor that wants to create his own certification standards vice the already existing standards. I wouldn't trust that fuck to give me an eye exam (refactory).
 
realibrad said:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-hea...s-new-york-orthodox-jewish-community-vaccines

Does not look like its about their religious beliefs.
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Correct, but this is the key takeaway here.

Last fall, when the outbreak started, I talked to Orthodox Jews in New York about the outbreak and their vaccine concerns. And I learned that a minority distrust vaccines — for reasons that have nothing to do with religious doctrine.

Yet the fact that some Orthodox Jews live outside the mainstream, avoid technology, and hold rabbinic opinion in high esteem may leave them particularly vulnerable to anti-vaxxers.
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One kind of magical thinking leads to another, in part because the extremely religious are so insular. I think religious people in general are ripe for anti-Vaxx, which is why it's been growing on the political right in recent years.
 
woolfe9998 said:
One kind of magical thinking leads to another, in part because the extremely religious are so insular. I think religious people in general are ripe for anti-Vaxx, which is why it's been growing on the political right in recent years.
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Well, both relate to being told something from a random person, believing it, and making life decisions based on it.

Stupid meets stupid.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Well, both relate to being told something from a random person, believing it, and making life decisions based on it.

Stupid meets stupid.
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What's interesting is that people "get religion" in order to not have vaccinations. It seems a fairly common thing for exemptions to be claimed by people who aren't religious.

In any case the exemptions should be medical and that's it.
 
Heard something interesting on the news. Someone infected with measels is contagious to everyone within a large radius (I think it was 30 feet), after an infected person leaves a room, that room can cause infections for two hours.
The current mmr vaccines is 93% effective with one dose and the mmr vaccine has never had mercury in it. Anyone born before 1959 likely has had measels at some point in their life. Those are the only people who are eligible to be vaccinated can moderately safely opt out of vaccination.
 
fskimospy said:
There’s also been a concerted anti-vaccine effort in the ultra orthodox community in NYC recently.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/09/nyregion/jews-measles-vaccination.html
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Point of clarification: what your article describes are Hasidim. They are commonly described in the Jewish community as "ultra-orthodox." Jarod Kushner describes himself as an "orthodox Jew" but he clearly isn't Hasidic. Hasidim are like the Amish, being insular, dressing in clothing from centuries ago and rejecting many aspects of modern living. The ordinary orthodox live modern lives like the rest of us, and while I have no direct knowledge, I tend to doubt they are a lot more anti-vax than the general population.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Point of clarification: what your article describes are Hasidim. They are commonly described in the Jewish community as "ultra-orthodox." Jarod Kushner describes himself as an "orthodox Jew" but he clearly isn't Hasidic. Hasidim are like the Amish, being insular, dressing in clothing from centuries ago and rejecting many aspects of modern living. The ordinary orthodox live modern lives like the rest of us, and while I have no direct knowledge, I tend to doubt they are a lot more anti-vax than the general population.
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I’m pretty sure the people in Rockland are ultra orthodox as well?
 
fskimospy said:
I’m pretty sure the people in Rockland are ultra orthodox as well?
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I only know what I've read as I've never been in NY State outside of NYC, but from what I've read, yes, there appears to be a sizeable community of ultra-orthodox in Rockland and those are the people who aren't vaccinating and are also getting lots of measles cases. It isn't the ordinary orthodox like Kushner or Joe Liberman.
 
Bitek said:
I wonder if it's a community of helicopter parents, or Hasidics?

Either way, good.

I don't find complaints about hiring sitters and tutors terribly sympathetic when their actions put other people's lives at risk.
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Religion in Rockland County, New York
70.2% of the people in Rockland County are religious:
- 1.3% are Baptist
- 0.8% are Episcopalian
- 36.8% are Catholic
- 0.6% are Lutheran
- 0.8% are Methodist
- 0.8% are Pentecostal
- 0.7% are Presbyterian
- 0.1% are Church of Jesus Christ
- 4.2% are another Christian faith
- 22.5% are Judasim
- 0.2% are an eastern faith
- 1.5% affilitates with Islam

The truth is, it is a 78% white middle class suburb with a bunch of Karens in it.

The prime anti-vax demographic.
 
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