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Amused

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Not real sure what religion has to do with being an anti vaxer but, I agree that county has it's share of Karens.

Someone asked if it was Hasidics. There is a large well known anti-vax movement with the Hasidic community.

This isn't that. This is fucking Karen.
 
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Religion in Rockland County, New York
70.2% of the people in Rockland County are religious:

- 1.3% are Baptist
- 0.8% are Episcopalian
- 36.8% are Catholic
- 0.6% are Lutheran
- 0.8% are Methodist
- 0.8% are Pentecostal
- 0.7% are Presbyterian
- 0.1% are Church of Jesus Christ
- 4.2% are another Christian faith
- 22.5% are Judasim
- 0.2% are an eastern faith
- 1.5% affilitates with Islam

The truth is, it is a 78% white middle class suburb with a bunch of Karens in it.

The prime anti-vax demographic.

You sure it's middle class? Usually it's rich white retards with too much time on their hands. You know - enough time to read retarded blogs and base life decisions on it?

My wife has a cousin that is fairly wealthy that married a woman that is basically a stay at home mom. First time I've ever met someone that is actually an anti-vaxxer.... Which I guess isn't surprising - someone that has ample time to read blogs and google shit.
 

pauldun170

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Religion in Rockland County, New York
70.2% of the people in Rockland County are religious:

- 1.3% are Baptist
- 0.8% are Episcopalian
- 36.8% are Catholic
- 0.6% are Lutheran
- 0.8% are Methodist
- 0.8% are Pentecostal
- 0.7% are Presbyterian
- 0.1% are Church of Jesus Christ
- 4.2% are another Christian faith
- 22.5% are Judasim
- 0.2% are an eastern faith
- 1.5% affilitates with Islam

The truth is, it is a 78% white middle class suburb with a bunch of Karens in it.

The prime anti-vax demographic.

Ok...
Knowing folks from Rockland county.
Reading that last bit
Smirk central.

Lol
 

Amused

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You sure it's middle class? Usually it's rich white retards with too much time on their hands. You know - enough time to read retarded blogs and base life decisions on it?

My wife has a cousin that is fairly wealthy that married a woman that is basically a stay at home mom. First time I've ever met someone that is actually an anti-vaxxer.... Which I guess isn't surprising - someone that has ample time to read blogs and google shit.

Middle, upper middle, and rich. Mostly middle and upper middle class though.
 
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pauldun170

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You sure it's middle class? Usually it's rich white retards with too much time on their hands. You know - enough time to read retarded blogs and base life decisions on it?

My wife has a cousin that is fairly wealthy that married a woman that is basically a stay at home mom. First time I've ever met someone that is actually an anti-vaxxer.... Which I guess isn't surprising - someone that has ample time to read blogs and google shit.

In Rockland county, Karen's job is to pump out kids and drive them to Hebrew school and the optometrist. Doesn't matter what the husband does.
Karen Is on Facebook while her 6 year old son calls her a bitch in the middle of a museum tour and she does nothing but stare at her phone. Waiting for someone to like her post on Facebook about wineries.
 

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Religion in those type of communities has a lot to do with it since the members are taught (brainwashed) not to question the religious leaders just like they are told who to vote for in elections, if the religious leaders told them they must be vaccinated very few if any would refuse.

An example of the control in those communities.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/hasidic-...b-smartphone-use-its-like-were-in-north-korea

Hasidic leaders sharply limit members' web, smartphone use: 'It's like we're in North Korea’

This is the second of a three-part series on insular enclaves of ultra-Orthodox Jews, the struggles they face and the controversies that follow them.

The father of five was summoned to a meeting with leaders of his ultra-orthodox Hasidic Jewish sect in Kiryas Joel, N.Y., a village of some 22,000 about 50 miles north of New York City.
The Satmar Hasidic leaders, a council known as the Vaad -- wanted him to understand they knew he was on the internet, even though he was posting messages under a fictitious name.

The point: No matter what he did, the Vaad was on top of it. The father got a warning familiar to many in Hasidic communities: If you do not abide by the rules governing nearly every facet of your life, your children will be denied enrollment in our private Jewish schools (yeshivas).

Within this deeply religious community, families send children to yeshivas, where they are taught traditional religious texts. Yeshiva expulsion – virtual excommunication - would bring intense shame to a Hasidic family.

“It’s the Vaad. They don't let you have smartphones, computers, laptops, DVD players," said the man, a Kiryas Joel resident who spoke to Fox News on the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals. "I wasn't even saying anything bad on social media. I was asking a question. But you are not to question anything" concerning Hasidism.

Many Hasidic communities, though not all, are highly insular, determined to shut out as much of the outside world and its perceived deviancy as possible. Education at yeshivas emphasizes the Torah and other religious teachings, particularly for boys, who are being prepared for possible futures as rabbis. This faith-centric instruction doesn't leave vast amounts of time for math and English.

For the rabbis, who can wield enormous influence over the smallest details of followers' lives -- including such intimate matters as the use of contraceptives, which is nearly always prohibited -- technology is a threat: It enables personal connections and access to views and information from non-Hasidic sources.

Five years ago, a rabbinical group, Ichud Hakehillos Letohar Hamachane, sponsored a seminal event for ultra-Orthodox Jewish men at Citi Field stadium in New York that drew tens of thousands of people. Speakers emphasized the “filth” and “evil” of the internet.
The spokesman for the event, Rabbi Eytan Kobre, told reporters at the time that the internet and smartphones posed “the most difficult spiritual challenge” for Orthodox Jews, not just those who are Hasidic.

Kobre, who is not Hasidic, told Fox News in a recent interview that quite simply, to Orthodox Jews, there is no need to surf the Internet or explore a marketplace of ideas, because the truth is right there in the Torah.
Kobre said that technology is “doing damage to relationships, privacy, human dignity, the ability to succeed in school and at work.”

“The environment of the digital age is far more conducive to addiction than anything humans have experienced in their history,” said Kobre, who writes about the issue for Mishpacha magazine, a leading publications for Orthodox Jews worldwide.

As a result, many Hasidic communities have developed rules specifically banning the possession of electronic devices, making exceptions only under special circumstances – like, say, needing these tools in order to run a business. Even then, use is tightly restricted and closely monitored.
Take smartphones, for instance: These handhelds are allowed for men as long as they are inspected by rabbis and registered by what some call, with sarcasm that is considered a major act of insubordination, the "technology police" or "thought police."

Women are allowed to have “basic” or flip phones, but not smartphones.
The Vaad deactivates web browsers and installs filters on phones to inhibit access to such things as Google, YouTube, many Wikipedia pages and porn websites, among other content.

"It's like we're in North Korea or China," said the Kiryas Joel resident, who has a second phone that Vaad enforcers do not know about.
On at least one occasion, in 2015, rabbis from Kiryas Joel sent parents a contract to sign, declaring that their phones “are in accordance to the rules of the community and yeshiva,” and adding, “We also confirm that we do not possess in our home another cellphone/smartphone, except for the ones mentioned above.”

Another nearly-all Hasidic town, New Square, N.Y., makes parents vow to obey bans on technology in writing when they register their children for school.

Hasidic communities' tech limitations are not just in small towns like Kiryas Joel and New Square that are situated far from big cities, though.
In Brooklyn, for instance, posters blamed "mothers with smartphones" for teens who have strayed from Hasidic life.

Of the more than a dozen Hasidic rabbis and yeshiva officials Fox News reached out to for comment, none responded. One man, working at a front booth at a small building in Kiryas Joel where smartphones and other gadgets are checked for compliance with the restrictions, took a message from a Fox News team that made a personal visit. But there was no subsequent call or email message.
Orthodox leaders outside the Hasidic enclaves have defended the consequences that schools impose.

“They consider technology to be an area of danger which requires limits and standards,” Kobre, the rabbi, said of the school leaders. “If we just limit the availability of technology for students, and say, ‘You can’t have a smartphone but your folks can have them,’ what are we really saying? Do as we say, not as we do? It would be educationally inappropriate. It would backfire.

"We have to have the appropriate home environment, otherwise we’re setting ourselves up for failure and hypocrisy.”
He rejected any suggestion that enforcing standards --whether they be about dress codes or having a television set or the internet -- are oppressive. Critics, he said, seem to want "educational anarchy."
Another rabbi who is Orthodox but not Hasidic said avoiding temptations that lurk on the internet is best accomplished by not wading into the technology pool at all.

“It’s not easy for us, it’s a sacrifice,” said the rabbi, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “We’re holding on tight; we have to have the moral courage" to steer clear of tech.

“Whatever I don’t want to do, I’m going to leave out of my arm’s reach, I’m going to remove the temptation,” he said. “As far as our community leaders, they feel an enormous responsibility to use the wisdom that they have, and which guided Orthodox Jews for thousands of years, to see through this infatuation with this untested medium.”

Nuftuli Moster, who grew up as one of 17 children in a Hasidic home in Brooklyn and now advocates for more secular studies in Hasidic schools, said the perceived overreach by community leaders stuns even him.
"I myself am taken aback," Moster said, adding that he gets calls from parents who have received letters, delivered to them by their children, informing them that having internet access on their computer, or a telephone without the filter, puts the youngsters' yeshiva enrollment at risk.
"They force you to use their filtering system. They make it challenging for parents, they have a grip on them when it comes to the children and schools. Parents say the [leaders] sent them a letter that said they don't have a filter on their phone.”

"Parents ask me: 'How do they know? What do I do?'"
Moster, who founded Young Advocates for Fair Education (YAFFED) six years ago to push for more secular studies in yeshivas, said: "It's ridiculous how far they go with it. They know how to manipulate people and force them to do what they want."
Technology’s numerous and alternative sources of information threaten the nearly absolute power that rabbis and the Vaad are accustomed to having, experts say.

“The internet poses an unprecedented challenge,” said Samuel Heilman, chairman of Jewish studies at Queens College in New York and author of "Who Will Lead Us? The Story of Five Hasidic Dynasties in America.”
“But this is violated all the time," he added. "It’s like the three staircases in the Jewish play ‘Fiddler on the Roof,’ where one staircase was just for show but went nowhere.”

Heilman said that many Hasidic people have a rabbi-approved phone "for show," but also an unfiltered one they regularly use. He also said he has often seen Hasidic men in public libraries going on the internet or reading books that are forbidden by their religious leaders.
“When I walked in, they quickly look at me to make sure I am not someone spying on them.”

For Kobre, an ordinary ride a few days ago on a New York City train summed up the perils of technology.
The rabbi stood in the crush of humanity on the packed train and looked around him.

“Every single person, without exception, whether they were sitting down or standing, was looking down at their devices,” Kobre recalled. “For me it was a scene out of a horror movie, a zombie movie. What could they possibly be looking at that is more important than their own thoughts, about their families, their life goals?”
 

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Religion in those type of communities has a lot to do with it since the members are taught (brainwashed) not to question the religious leaders just like they are told who to vote for in elections, if the religious leaders told them they must be vaccinated very few if any would refuse.

An example of the control in those communities.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/hasidic-...b-smartphone-use-its-like-were-in-north-korea

Hasidic leaders sharply limit members' web, smartphone use: 'It's like we're in North Korea’

So even if the religion does not have anything explicit about this, its still responsible because of the culture it creates? Is that correct?
 

fskimospy

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From my experience living basically next door to one of the largest concentrations of ultra orthodox in the world for the last 5 years in my opinion they are basically a cult, similar to fundamentalist Mormons or other groups of that nature.
 

cytg111

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An advanced society only stays advanced if it keeps its peeps advanced... There is a lot of steps down to hurling our own feces at each other ... but with a little effort I believe we can do it! Have some damn faith!
 

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Vaccines?? SORCERY!! Only the Lord God Almighty is in control of your health!

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/on...ks-noted-pediatrician-calls-vaccines-sorcery/

An anti-vaccine Texas Republican state lawmaker attacked a distinguished medical doctor, the dean and chief of pediatric medicine at Baylor College of Medicine National School of Tropical Medicine, over vaccines this week.

State Rep. Jonathan Stickland (photo) made a wide variety of remarks on Twitter, at one point telling Dr. Peter Hotez, the noted global health and vaccinology expert, to “mind your own business” as he exploded into his anti-vaxx rant, which The Houston Chroniclereported.

Stickland, who describes himself on Facebook as a “Conservative Christian Republican,” also insisted that vaccines are “sorcery,” and “only The Lord God Almighty is in control.”

Dr. Hotez had posted a graphic to Twitter, warning of the explosive growth of vaccine exemptions, and expressing concern that children in Texas “have been placed in harm’s way for the financial gain of special & outside interest groups.”
 

dawp

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Vaccines?? SORCERY!! Only the Lord God Almighty is in control of your health!

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/on...ks-noted-pediatrician-calls-vaccines-sorcery/

An anti-vaccine Texas Republican state lawmaker attacked a distinguished medical doctor, the dean and chief of pediatric medicine at Baylor College of Medicine National School of Tropical Medicine, over vaccines this week.

State Rep. Jonathan Stickland (photo) made a wide variety of remarks on Twitter, at one point telling Dr. Peter Hotez, the noted global health and vaccinology expert, to “mind your own business” as he exploded into his anti-vaxx rant, which The Houston Chroniclereported.

Stickland, who describes himself on Facebook as a “Conservative Christian Republican,” also insisted that vaccines are “sorcery,” and “only The Lord God Almighty is in control.”

Dr. Hotez had posted a graphic to Twitter, warning of the explosive growth of vaccine exemptions, and expressing concern that children in Texas “have been placed in harm’s way for the financial gain of special & outside interest groups.”
what do you expect, it's texas, but then the same can be said about republicans
 

BoomerD

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Vaccines?? SORCERY!! Only the Lord God Almighty is in control of your health!

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/on...ks-noted-pediatrician-calls-vaccines-sorcery/

An anti-vaccine Texas Republican state lawmaker attacked a distinguished medical doctor, the dean and chief of pediatric medicine at Baylor College of Medicine National School of Tropical Medicine, over vaccines this week.

State Rep. Jonathan Stickland (photo) made a wide variety of remarks on Twitter, at one point telling Dr. Peter Hotez, the noted global health and vaccinology expert, to “mind your own business” as he exploded into his anti-vaxx rant, which The Houston Chroniclereported.

Stickland, who describes himself on Facebook as a “Conservative Christian Republican,” also insisted that vaccines are “sorcery,” and “only The Lord God Almighty is in control.”

Dr. Hotez had posted a graphic to Twitter, warning of the explosive growth of vaccine exemptions, and expressing concern that children in Texas “have been placed in harm’s way for the financial gain of special & outside interest groups.”

So...if this "god" is in control...why do we even need doctors then?
 

zinfamous

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Vaccines?? SORCERY!! Only the Lord God Almighty is in control of your health!

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/on...ks-noted-pediatrician-calls-vaccines-sorcery/

An anti-vaccine Texas Republican state lawmaker attacked a distinguished medical doctor, the dean and chief of pediatric medicine at Baylor College of Medicine National School of Tropical Medicine, over vaccines this week.

State Rep. Jonathan Stickland (photo) made a wide variety of remarks on Twitter, at one point telling Dr. Peter Hotez, the noted global health and vaccinology expert, to “mind your own business” as he exploded into his anti-vaxx rant, which The Houston Chroniclereported.

Stickland, who describes himself on Facebook as a “Conservative Christian Republican,” also insisted that vaccines are “sorcery,” and “only The Lord God Almighty is in control.”

Dr. Hotez had posted a graphic to Twitter, warning of the explosive growth of vaccine exemptions, and expressing concern that children in Texas “have been placed in harm’s way for the financial gain of special & outside interest groups.”

I like how this inbred shitstain tried to tell an MD vaccinologist to "mind his own business" regarding vaccines.


This country can't get rid of Evangelicals fast enough. Holy fuck these morons are cancer.
 

zinfamous

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So...if this "god" is in control...why do we even need doctors then?

whatever happens, that asshole better not set one foot in a hospital or consume any medication for the rest of his life. God has spoken.
 

1sikbITCH

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Not real sure what religion has to do with being an anti vaxer but, I agree that county has it's share of Karens.

Obviously reasons are like assholes but I would put forth this theory:

Basically faith vs no faith

Religious people have the capacity to allow themselves to accept something with no proof. They will denounce science and facts as "fake news" because they read it on Facebook somewhere or their pastor spewed the lies straight from the pulpit. So, if you are a god fearer and people tell you that vaccines are man-made poisons and to just let god handle it, than that is what you will do. It's like training mice. It always amazes me when a church or some other establishments announce who they are voting for, expecting all their members to just vote that way because the institution told them to. What if you work for the church, and also for the union, and they both come out for the opposite candidate? You might have to make a choice for yourself :oops:

People who reject religion on the other hand have had to do so from behind...that is when you are born you are automatically indoctrinated into whatever faith your family has, and after years of brainwashing IF you start to question all this stuff you have always just accepted you have to undue all that damage. So you learn to become a critical thinker and reverse the brainwashing. Once that happens, you don't believe nuthin unless it's scientifically proven. IN TRIPLICATE.

In other words if you don't believe in god it's because you did your research and you likely agree with science. And if you agree with science you get your kids vaccinated.
 
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Vaccines?? SORCERY!! Only the Lord God Almighty is in control of your health!

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/on...ks-noted-pediatrician-calls-vaccines-sorcery/

An anti-vaccine Texas Republican state lawmaker attacked a distinguished medical doctor, the dean and chief of pediatric medicine at Baylor College of Medicine National School of Tropical Medicine, over vaccines this week.

State Rep. Jonathan Stickland (photo) made a wide variety of remarks on Twitter, at one point telling Dr. Peter Hotez, the noted global health and vaccinology expert, to “mind your own business” as he exploded into his anti-vaxx rant, which The Houston Chroniclereported.

Stickland, who describes himself on Facebook as a “Conservative Christian Republican,” also insisted that vaccines are “sorcery,” and “only The Lord God Almighty is in control.”

Dr. Hotez had posted a graphic to Twitter, warning of the explosive growth of vaccine exemptions, and expressing concern that children in Texas “have been placed in harm’s way for the financial gain of special & outside interest groups.”
/decries vaccines as sorcery
/has Facebook page on magic device that communicates via sorcerous particles
 
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BurnItDwn

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Not real sure what religion has to do with being an anti vaxer but, I agree that county has it's share of Karens.

The "Christian Scientist" religion expressly forbids things like medicine and vaccines. Essentially, their religion is that god has to heal the wounds...

But yea, almost all the other religions are more or less pro medicine
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Obviously reasons are like assholes but I would put forth this theory:

Basically faith vs no faith

Religious people have the capacity to allow themselves to accept something with no proof. They will denounce science and facts as "fake news" because they read it on Facebook somewhere or their pastor spewed the lies straight from the pulpit. So, if you are a god fearer and people tell you that vaccines are man-made poisons and to just let god handle it, than that is what you will do. It's like training mice. It always amazes me when a church or some other establishments announce who they are voting for, expecting all their members to just vote that way because the institution told them to. What if you work for the church, and also for the union, and they both come out for the opposite candidate? You might have to make a choice for yourself :oops:

People who reject religion on the other hand have had to do so from behind...that is when you are born you are automatically indoctrinated into whatever faith your family has, and after years of brainwashing IF you start to question all this stuff you have always just accepted you have to undue all that damage. So you learn to become a critical thinker and reverse the brainwashing. Once that happens, you don't believe nuthin unless it's scientifically proven. IN TRIPLICATE.

In other words if you don't believe in god it's because you did your research and you likely agree with science. And if you agree with science you get your kids vaccinated.
Your whole viewpoint is predicated on the belief that the religious are somehow less intelligent or less educated. I can assure you you're mistaken.
 

Jhhnn

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One kind of magical thinking leads to another

That's why the GOP is big on "faith based initiatives" like subsidies for Christian day cares & school vouchers. Start early enough & they'll never know they don't think straight.
 

WelshBloke

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Your whole viewpoint is predicated on the belief that the religious are somehow less intelligent or less educated. I can assure you you're mistaken.
If they aren't either of those two they are certainly better at ignoring facts and just going with what a convincing guy in a robe tells them.