Fern
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I agree. I see zero reason for any Repub candidate to go after Obama at this point. Spending any effort to slam Obama makes no sense, he's not running in the Repub primary. OTOH, having this smear effort traced back to you, as a candidate, would cause all kinds of problems. There's simply no "risk vs reward" payoff in it.
Fern
3chordcharlie
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All one has to do is look at his church, his affiliation with terrorist teachings, radical-islam, etc...the profile of a terrorist (young, disenfanchised, vulnerable to brainwashing).
Just put them all together to connect the dots and keep this guy OUT of our government. Remain viligent and alert your peers. This guy CANNOT reach high office. To do so is at our own peril.
3chordcharlie
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I agree, at least when you elect an embezzling criminal statist like Cheney, you know what you're getting.
3chordcharlie
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Is this a serious post? Obama should be kept out of high office because his father sent him to Muslim school?
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I don't buy for a minute that the Reps are not worried about Obama, esp after gleefully daring the Dems to nominate Hillary b/c they thought they would get another cakewalk. Since Obama has come onto the national stage in '04 he's been a walking God. The media is all over him, and his appearances attract thousands. His numbers are quickly gaining on Hillary, and I'm sure that is a cause of worry in many, many camps.
If they are not worried about him, they are about as keyed in as Rove was in late Oct '06 saying he's seen the #'s, and the Reps are going to pull out a victory.
If they are not worried about him, they are about as keyed in as Rove was in late Oct '06 saying he's seen the #'s, and the Reps are going to pull out a victory.
Yup... close family association with the Saudi's and a close relationship with the Bin Laden family. Sounds like a 5th colunnist to me.
Oh wait that is Bush not Obama.
Uh, he attended a school that was Muslim in the same sense that the private schools many people went to in this country are Christian. Inflammatory bullshit aside, some REAL news folks actually tracked down the school, and it was EXTREMELY moderate by the standards of the region...or even by the standards set in THIS country. It's a little hard to say "terrorist training camp" when you see a bunch of kids, boys AND girls btw, running around playing in the background while the headmaster was being interviewed. And that was pretty much the extent of his "terrorist teaching" or association with "radical Islam". Hell, little kids in THIS country are exposed to more radical stuff.
Also, since you don't know how to SPELL "disenfanchised", I'll assume you also don't know what it means. It generally refers to someone who wants power, but does not have it...a state typically not associated with folks holding powerful offices like US Senator. He's about the LAST person who fits the profile of a terrorist, perhaps you should leave the profiling to people who, you know, know what they are talking about and didn't get their talking points from "Right-Wing Lunatic Monthly".
So he's basically a terrorist? Or what? Sorry, I'm clearly not wearing as much tinfoil as you and the church-goers who can spot this obvious plot from a mile away. He's already a senator, which is quite a high office, does he first need to acquire the presidency before he can launch his terroristic plans?
"Didn't you read the email?"
What a joke. Didn't you read that background investigation about how he never went to a radical school for jihad? They WENT TO THE SCHOOL IN QUESTION, and it has sports, computers, girls and boys both show their faces and hair, and they teach both islam and science. (Yes, even ::GASP:: dinosaurs and evolution).
You're the one giving into terrorism. The terrorism being spewed by the administration and fundamentalist christians running THIS COUNTRY. Not all terrorism is violent, did ya know that?
Jesus christ, how many different "enemies" do we have to worry about these days? Maybe I'll write up a list...
None of them stand a chance in the primaries versus the fringe voters of either party and the press won't stand for a third party
ProfJohn
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Ok, let's go through this again...Originally posted by: Hafen
I don't buy for a minute that the Reps are not worried about Obama, esp after gleefully daring the Dems to nominate Hillary b/c they thought they would get another cakewalk. Since Obama has come onto the national stage in '04 he's been a walking God. The media is all over him, and his appearances attract thousands. His numbers are quickly gaining on Hillary, and I'm sure that is a cause of worry in many, many camps.
If they are not worried about him, they are about as keyed in as Rove was in late Oct '06 saying he's seen the #'s, and the Reps are going to pull out a victory.
Hillary=a threat to Republicans because all she has to do is get an extra few percent of the female vote and she wins, Dick Morris, who knows what he is talking about, has said many times that she CAN win.
Obama on the other hand does not have that advantage. Being a black does NOTHING to help politically; the Democrats already get 90% of the black vote, what little extra he brings to the table won't mean a whole lot. And as the Democrats on this board like to point out, the fact that he is black may end up costing him the vote of whites who might other wise vote Democratic.
Now think of this from the view point of a Republican? Hillary is ahead, but you don?t want her to have an easy victory. Therefore you are better off leaving Obama alone and instead dishing out dirt on Hillary (you can beat up Obama later, if he wins). The longer the battle between Hillary and Obama lasts the better it is for Republicans. Also it is MUCH better for the Republicans if the Democratic nominee emerges bloody and beaten from a long bitter nomination battle ala Kerry and especially Dukakis.
child of wonder
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Being a System Admin for an ISP I read ~100 or so spam/forwards per day and I can tell you with near 100% certainty that these political emails are deliberate propaganda tactics used by political parties. Some person just doesn't type them up, they are calculated attacks perpetuated by people in power.
Also, of the forwards I see (in South Dakota), about 90% are against liberals/Democrats or for conservatives/Republicans.
Might be different in other areas, however.
Also, of the forwards I see (in South Dakota), about 90% are against liberals/Democrats or for conservatives/Republicans.
Might be different in other areas, however.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Ok, let's go through this again...Originally posted by: Hafen
I don't buy for a minute that the Reps are not worried about Obama, esp after gleefully daring the Dems to nominate Hillary b/c they thought they would get another cakewalk. Since Obama has come onto the national stage in '04 he's been a walking God. The media is all over him, and his appearances attract thousands. His numbers are quickly gaining on Hillary, and I'm sure that is a cause of worry in many, many camps.
If they are not worried about him, they are about as keyed in as Rove was in late Oct '06 saying he's seen the #'s, and the Reps are going to pull out a victory.
Hillary=a threat to Republicans because all she has to do is get an extra few percent of the female vote and she wins, Dick Morris, who knows what he is talking about, has said many times that she CAN win.
Obama on the other hand does not have that advantage. Being a black does NOTHING to help politically; the Democrats already get 90% of the black vote, what little extra he brings to the table won't mean a whole lot. And as the Democrats on this board like to point out, the fact that he is black may end up costing him the vote of whites who might other wise vote Democratic.
From Rasmussen Reports...
Clinton and Obama lead the polls for Democrats seeking their party?s 2008 Presidential nomination. While Clinton has been ahead in every Rasmussen Reports poll for the Democratic nomination, Obama and former North Carolina Senator John Edwards generally do better in general election match-ups.
Seems to me that it's Obama that has the advantage vs. Republicans and not Clinton. :roll:
Given your history of making wrong election predictions, I'll take your curent predictions here with a grain of salt.
Without reading much of this thread, I don't think this country is ready for a Muslim president, especially considering the state the world is in, at "the religion of peace's" hands.
I'd vote for Ralph Nader, before I'd help put a Muslim in office.
I'd vote for Ralph Nader, before I'd help put a Muslim in office.
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