Another W.W.Y.D. thread...feel like I got suckd into a middle school argument!

[rasczak]

OK...title might be a little misleading...but basically am wondering what you guys would do in my place...I will try to summarize...

1. Built a house a 18 months ago...
2. Had a couple of issues that were eventually resolved after multiple requests...
3. Wife gets frustrated and eventually turns against builder (i.e. doesn't like him)
4. Wife's friends like our house and pick him as a builder for their home.
5. Wife vents to friend (close friend mind you) about issues had with builder.
6. Almost 6 months since the last time I talked to him I get a call from the builder out of the blue...(yesterday)

Apparently the wife's "friend" ratted her out to the builder (not that it even matters at this point) during a random conversation...

Basically from what I could summarize, the wife's friend told the builder all the things my wife was unhappy with and basically that she thought that he didn't do that good of a job...not sure what she actually said but it was apparently enough to make this guy want to call me.

I talked it through with him and he was cool with it and I reassured him we were indeed happy and that it was water under the bridge.

He asked me to not tell my wife or talk to other couple. Part of me kind of wants to tell my wife...the other part is saying to let it go...

One one side I am annoyed as fuck that this 'friend' would basically throw us under the bus for no good reason other than to get this guy mad for some reason.

The other side is kind of like the hell with it, nothing good is going to come out of stirring the pot.


What do you guys think?

Let it go. The only thing that could get you in trouble would be if shit hits the fan with your friends and the builder, and your wife's friend starts blabbing her big mouth to your wife. I would start building a panic room just in case.

 

[alkemyst]

If you didn't tell her, he would have made you his b!tch. He might be a nice guy but he's an idiot for suggesting you not discuss it with her.

Next thing you know, he blabs to the other chick he talked to you, she blabs to your wife about it, and wifie says 'why didn't you tell me he called you?' And you say, 'because he told me not to.' LOL

I think you should post the builder's name and location so we can all avoid him and so this thread will be the top result when his name's googled. 😛

wow bro, you are a little weasel.

 

[Thebobo]

But what if your wifes friend tells your wife she told the contractor what your wife said about the contractor and your wife asks you why you didn't tell her that her friend told the contractor what your the wife had said?

 

[alkemyst]

But what if your wifes friend tells your wife she told the contractor what your wife said about the contractor and your wife asks you why you didn't tell her that her friend told the contractor what your the wife had said?

anyone else glad they read this now instead of 10 or so beers later tonight?

 

[momeNt]

wow bro, you are a little weasel.

No he's not. Unsatisfied customers have every right to air their grievances. Even if OP's problems were eventually fixed that doesn't tell us about the circumstances surrounding how the work was performed. Was the contractor trying to hide the mistakes, trying to say they weren't a big deal, OP said after multiple calls the contractor finally corrected the defective work. Sounds to me like something somebody might care to know.

I'm sure a lot of contractors would love if nobody was "a little weasel" they'd keep getting jobs without any regard for their quality assurance and quality control, and only fix the problems for the customers that call them multiple times.

Something tells me you have never been a contractor before and never worked in an environment that calls for performance and quality, such as construction.

 

[leeland]

anyone else glad they read this now instead of 10 or so beers later tonight?

I had read about you...I believe someone in another thread likened you to a cancer vs. a troll...

I hadn't given that much thought until I see how good you are at getting under people's skin with your comments.

It has to be hard being like that.

 

[alkemyst]

No he's not. Unsatisfied customers have every right to air their grievances. Even if OP's problems were eventually fixed that doesn't tell us about the circumstances surrounding how the work was performed. Was the contractor trying to hide the mistakes, trying to say they weren't a big deal, OP said after multiple calls the contractor finally corrected the defective work. Sounds to me like something somebody might care to know.

I'm sure a lot of contractors would love if nobody was "a little weasel" they'd keep getting jobs without any regard for their quality assurance and quality control, and only fix the problems for the customers that call them multiple times.

Something tells me you have never been a contractor before and never worked in an environment that calls for performance and quality, such as construction.

I worked for a Top 10 homebuilder for 8 years.

There is a difference between airing a complaint and becoming libelous.

The OP states he was happy and shares that with a friend. His wife later corrects this to they had issues. So either one or both are lying in some way.

The builder did what any normal business person would do after hearing a complaint, he called the customer back.

Yet twerps like you are like "OH MAN LET'S GO ANON ON HIM!!!!!"

got it?

 

[alkemyst]

I had read about you...I believe someone in another thread likened you to a cancer vs. a troll...

I hadn't given that much thought until I see how good you are at getting under people's skin with your comments.

It has to be hard being like that.

I thought it was funny. I am not the one with all the social issues in real-life though.

I am sure the poster of that sentence was trying to be funny too.

jesus man, chill.

 

[momeNt]

I worked for a Top 10 homebuilder for 8 years.

There is a difference between airing a complaint and becoming libelous.

The OP states he was happy and shares that with a friend. His wife later corrects this to they had issues. So either one or both are lying in some way.

The builder did what any normal business person would do after hearing a complaint, he called the customer back.

Yet twerps like you are like "OH MAN LET'S GO ANON ON HIM!!!!!"

got it?

Hilarious. Since when does being a system admin/programmer for a top 10 homebuilder mean you know ANYTHING about construction or executing contract work with performance and quality requirements?

The builder did not handle the situation appropriately, OP stated he had to call multiple times to finally get work corrected, apparently it was an 8 month ordeal to finally be able to enjoy their home. Also OP never stated he was satisfied with the builder, only that he likes his home. You can like your home even if it was built a year behind schedule and 20% over budget, but does that mean you would like your builder? (hint for system admins for homebuilders: the answer is no).

Contractors need to be proactive with their QA/QC and not wait for customers to call multiple times before correcting defective work, this builder is doing damage control to try and protect what seems to me to be largely an erroneous reputation of being a good home builder.

Contrary to what a lot of programmer types and system administrators might think, the finished product is not all that matters during construction, builders need to be aware of mistakes and fix them in a reasonable time when they are noticed. Maybe this contractor didn't care because the OP wasn't fully protected in his contract, things like retention, schedules with liquidated damages, and warranties could have all been used to help this lazy contractor finish his job. Instead he only corrects the work after he has to be nagged and finally realizes that these people have a voice and eventually word can get out about how he performs.

 

[leeland]

I worked for a Top 10 homebuilder for 8 years.

There is a difference between airing a complaint and becoming libelous.

The OP states he was happy and shares that with a friend. His wife later corrects this to they had issues. So either one or both are lying in some way.

The builder did what any normal business person would do after hearing a complaint, he called the customer back.

Yet twerps like you are like "OH MAN LET'S GO ANON ON HIM!!!!!"

got it?

I am pretty sure I never stated what you are saying above...so stop morphing my words to support your rhetoric.

I was \ am happy with the house....the same as if you were happy with a new car...

I never said we told them to build with the guy...they made that choice...on there own...after visiting us in our new home after we moved in...

At some point after that...they moved forward with choosing him as a builder with NO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM US.


To say I can't be happy with the overall home but irritated that things happened and weren't handled in a timely fashion is narrow minded on your part.

 

[alkemyst]

Hilarious. Since when does being a system admin/programmer for a top 10 homebuilder mean you know ANYTHING about construction or executing contract work with performance and quality requirements?

The builder did not handle the situation appropriately, OP stated he had to call multiple times to finally get work corrected, apparently it was an 8 month ordeal to finally be able to enjoy their home. Also OP never stated he was satisfied with the builder, only that he likes his home. You can like your home even if it was built a year behind schedule and 20% over budget, but does that mean you would like your builder? (hint for system admins for homebuilders: the answer is no).

Contractors need to be proactive with their QA/QC and not wait for customers to call multiple times before correcting defective work, this builder is doing damage control to try and protect what seems to me to be largely an erroneous reputation of being a good home builder.

Contrary to what a lot of programmer types and system administrators might think, the finished product is not all that matters during construction, builders need to be aware of mistakes and fix them in a reasonable time when they are noticed. Maybe this contractor didn't care because the OP wasn't fully protected in his contract, things like retention, schedules with liquidated damages, and warranties could have all been used to help this lazy contractor finish his job. Instead he only corrects the work after he has to be nagged and finally realizes that these people have a voice and eventually word can get out about how he performs.

My job functions included business analyst so I was a lot more on the front facing scene than many. Prior to that I worked for mortgage companies which some of my responsibilities were in verifying construction completeness. I did this for most of my life, 25+ years...I'd think in any capacity I worked in, I'd know these low-hanging fruit snippets you are sharing.

Keep in mind we are only hearing one side of the story, which if you do have the experience you are claiming know that most borrowers have 'problems' and are hoping to fast track their construction.

The bottom line is the OP gave a thumbs up on a builder, told the builder he was happy, and then bad mouthed the guy behind his back to his wife who shared this with her friend.

The failure is on the OP in this mess. Had he been honest from the beginning he'd have probably been taken care of more seriously.

 

[alkemyst]

I am pretty sure I never stated what you are saying above...so stop morphing my words to support your rhetoric.

I was \ am happy with the house....the same as if you were happy with a new car...

I never said we told them to build with the guy...they made that choice...on there own...after visiting us in our new home after we moved in...

At some point after that...they moved forward with choosing him as a builder with NO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM US.


To say I can't be happy with the overall home but irritated that things happened and weren't handled in a timely fashion is narrow minded on your part.

So you simply aren't honest when you speak to something. i get it.

 

[leeland]

So you simply aren't honest when you speak to something. i get it.

If you can show me what part of my post is giving you that impression I would like to see it.

If you can't then I am going to go on my previous interpretation of you as a cancer and be done with you...because either you can't fucking read / comprehend which I would sympathize with or you are just a jack wagon and like pissing people off.

 

[alkemyst]

If you can show me what part of my post is giving you that impression I would like to see it.

If you can't then I am going to go on my previous interpretation of you as a cancer and be done with you...because either you can't fucking read / comprehend which I would sympathize with or you are just a jack wagon and like pissing people off.

Get pissed bro, be a nut!

You gave your friend...keep this in mind YOUR FRIEND, a thumbs up to an experience you had reservations on.

Word of mouth only works when people are honest. Instead of doing the right thing and letting them know you didn't do your homework going into this, you led them down the same road trying to justify it.

Don't get mad at me, get mad at yourself for being dishonest about the situation.

 

[momeNt]

Considering you know your wife better than anybody here, how upset would she be if you didn't share this info with her? Are YOU genuinely bothered by it, or are you worried your wife will be?

 

[leeland]

Get pissed bro, be a nut!

You gave your friend...keep this in mind YOUR FRIEND, a thumbs up to an experience you had reservations on.

Word of mouth only works when people are honest. Instead of doing the right thing and letting them know you didn't do your homework going into this, you led them down the same road trying to justify it.

Don't get mad at me, get mad at yourself for being dishonest about the situation.

That's what I thought...you got nothing...I ain't mad at you, I was just trying to figure out if you were serious in your line of comments or just trying to start an argument with the judgmental posts...

Hey at least you are consistent...I will give you that.

 

[alkemyst]

That's what I thought...you got nothing...I ain't mad at you, I was just trying to figure out if you were serious in your line of comments or just trying to start an argument with the judgmental posts...

Hey at least you are consistent...I will give you that.

You said I was making people pissed. I was just stating the obvious issue you are having.

You are the one getting all irate and yes, mad.

This is your own fault. I'd simply tell the homebuilder you didn't have as good an experience as you told him you had and apologize to your friend for misleading them into signing with this guy.

That's not trying to get anyone 'pissed' or troll or anything but the honest answer to what the problem is you are having.