another typical day at work (got my life threatened by my boss)

[burnedout]

another typical day at work (got my life threatened by my boss)

Document everything. Dates, times, people, conversations, witnesses (if any).

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.

actually NO he could not sale the item. IT WAS NOT HIS TO SALE.

anyway it really bad business to sale something and HOPE he can get onothe before the real owner of the prduct comes in to claim it.

- yes he could. he's the manager. He can take responsibility for the consequences.

-bad business, yes. But he's the manager. Once he's been provided with the info and he makes the call, that's it. There's no argument telling him how to do his job. He can be a bad manager if he wants. Higher ups will deal with that, not subordinates.

what part of they didnt own the TV at that point? it was already baught and paid for. again at that point the store did NOT own the tv anymore.
The manager had NO RIGHT to sale the tv out from under the buyer.

while i agree gooddad should not have argued (well not in public anyway) the manager was in the wrong. Again they cant sale something that is already baught and paid for by someone.

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.

actually NO he could not sale the item. IT WAS NOT HIS TO SALE.

anyway it really bad business to sale something and HOPE he can get onothe before the real owner of the prduct comes in to claim it.

- yes he could. he's the manager. He can take responsibility for the consequences.

-bad business, yes. But he's the manager. Once he's been provided with the info and he makes the call, that's it. There's no argument telling him how to do his job. He can be a bad manager if he wants. Higher ups will deal with that, not subordinates.

what part of they didnt own the TV at that point? it was already baught and paid for. again at that point the store did NOT own the tv anymore.
The manager had NO RIGHT to sale the tv out from under the buyer.

while i agree gooddad should not have argued (well not in public anyway) the manager was in the wrong. Again they cant sale something that is already baught and paid for by someone.

-not until the customer accepts delivery/it leaves the store.
-the manager could have gotten another one or refunded the money as the customer did NOT own it until posession taken.
-even if this weren't the case, he has no right to second guess his boss. If he did, he wouldn't be a subordinate.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: GoodDad

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.

obviously you have never worked on a sales floor. Its every man for himself. I was in the right not letting him sell the TV, the regional agreed with me on that point. My customer wanted his TV in the store ready for pickup whenever he wanted it. A guy drops that much money, he can make the rules like that.

I have the right to stick up for myself and my customer. If I didnt, the customer might be posting here about his bad experience with me.

I dont mean to flame, but you really dont sound like you know how things work.

Yes, I have worked retail. No, you never have a right to argue with a manager. Provide him with the info. Tell him it's sold. He makes the call. You don't have any right to second guess him. If you did, you would be a co-manager. I would have fired your ass.

I would have loved for them to fire me. I would be collecting unenjoyment and laughing all the way to the bank. Retail is different than sales. We get paid 100% comission, no hourly. If I dont sell, I dont eat. Its a whole different world buddy.

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: GoodDad

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: GoodDad

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.

obviously you have never worked on a sales floor. Its every man for himself. I was in the right not letting him sell the TV, the regional agreed with me on that point. My customer wanted his TV in the store ready for pickup whenever he wanted it. A guy drops that much money, he can make the rules like that.

I have the right to stick up for myself and my customer. If I didnt, the customer might be posting here about his bad experience with me.

I dont mean to flame, but you really dont sound like you know how things work.

Yes, I have worked retail. No, you never have a right to argue with a manager. Provide him with the info. Tell him it's sold. He makes the call. You don't have any right to second guess him. If you did, you would be a co-manager. I would have fired your ass.

I would have loved for them to fire me. I would be collecting unenjoyment and laughing all the way to the bank. Retail is different than sales. We get paid 100% comission, no hourly. If I dont sell, I dont eat. Its a whole different world buddy.

I've worked on comission to. I know what it's like. Doesn't change anything. If this is the best defense you can come up with for your inappropriate behaviour, well....good luck. I think you're really lucky he threatened you rather than fired you. You would have no recourse when fired since you were way outta line. At least this way, you're in the right. He shoudln't have threatened you.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
BUT it's a shame he couldn't controll himself and threatened you.
It's a shame he didn't discipline you properly for not knowing your place.

I don't know for sure, but it sounds like you've spent a lot of time in fairly low-level jobs, where subordination is a frequent way of life in the obvious sense, and probably your bosses even used the term. Gooddad sold this to a customer. If that customer comes in looking for it he'll bitch out gooddad, quite possibly in front of other customers. GD was not only looking out for that customer, but his reputation, which his boss was trying to tarnish.

I am not sure why you say you'd have fired gooddad. You even admitted that it was bad business. You'd fire a subordinate for rightfully pointing out a mistake of yours, simply because you're the boss and what you say goes, even if you're totally wrong, and you know it?

 

[Slacker]

I'll tell you one thing, if I dropped 15k on a home theater and they sold MY sht to some one else :| somebody would be getting fired but it wouldnt be MY salesman!

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Slacker
I'll tell you one thing, if I dropped 15k on a home theater and they sold MY sht to some one else :| somebody would be getting fired but it wouldnt be MY salesman!

I have to agree. If i spent $15k on a setup then found out they sold MY TV out from under me and they didnt have onother in stock i would raise heck. I would also get my money back and go someplace else.

There are plenty of other places that would treat me right when im dropping 15k

 

[Xionide]

Any update?

 

[Ozoned]

While you are deciding what to do, I happen to know something
that will make you feel a lot better.


Find his car and take a big ole crap right in the front seat.

 

[tranceport]

Man who do you work for? I would own that freakin company....

 

[Xionide]

DUDE UPDATE!

 

[EvilYoda]

w00t, sounds just like my company...and sounds like we sell similar things too. Maybe all owners of high-end A/V stores are complete jackasses.

Sorry to hear that man...I had my job security threatened yesterday, and they still haven't really realized that I don't care.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
You told the boss that the TV was already sold. Then he told you he was going to sell it anyway. End of story. you gave him the info, and he made his decision. Now he can deal with the consequences. It is NEVER appropriate for an employee to go toe to toe with a boss like that. He made his decision and you have to deal with that since you're not a manager. You're (or were) a subordinate.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

If you are serious about this, go kill yourself cause you are a moron that will do no good in this world.
Threatning someone's life is the issue here, not manager-employee relations. Again, die.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: GoodDad

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: GoodDad

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.

obviously you have never worked on a sales floor. Its every man for himself. I was in the right not letting him sell the TV, the regional agreed with me on that point. My customer wanted his TV in the store ready for pickup whenever he wanted it. A guy drops that much money, he can make the rules like that.

I have the right to stick up for myself and my customer. If I didnt, the customer might be posting here about his bad experience with me.

I dont mean to flame, but you really dont sound like you know how things work.

Yes, I have worked retail. No, you never have a right to argue with a manager. Provide him with the info. Tell him it's sold. He makes the call. You don't have any right to second guess him. If you did, you would be a co-manager. I would have fired your ass.

I would have loved for them to fire me. I would be collecting unenjoyment and laughing all the way to the bank. Retail is different than sales. We get paid 100% comission, no hourly. If I dont sell, I dont eat. Its a whole different world buddy.

I've worked on comission to. I know what it's like. Doesn't change anything. If this is the best defense you can come up with for your inappropriate behaviour, well....good luck. I think you're really lucky he threatened you rather than fired you. You would have no recourse when fired since you were way outta line. At least this way, you're in the right. He shoudln't have threatened you.

OMG, again, kill yourself. Appearantly you know nothing about business. Customer is king you moron. This guy tried to protect the castle. Castle of the customer, and you are trying to argue a point which is fighting against that castle. Again, you are a moron. Kill yourself.

 

[MikeMike]

ok so from you we have.

fake id, crack dude (i think)
life threatened
the ppl walking out w/ the plant, you gettin their asses.

nice job

MIKE

 

[amdskip]

AIWGuru, you do not know what the heck you are talking about. I don't know about you but I'd be willing to kill someone if they sold my already paid for 4k tv. The customer could technically file charges against the store for theft and win.

GoodDad did nothing wrong, he just has an ahole of a boss.

Yes I've worked retail and I know how it works.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: GoodDad

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.

obviously you have never worked on a sales floor. Its every man for himself. I was in the right not letting him sell the TV, the regional agreed with me on that point. My customer wanted his TV in the store ready for pickup whenever he wanted it. A guy drops that much money, he can make the rules like that.

I have the right to stick up for myself and my customer. If I didnt, the customer might be posting here about his bad experience with me.

I dont mean to flame, but you really dont sound like you know how things work.

Yes, I have worked retail. No, you never have a right to argue with a manager. Provide him with the info. Tell him it's sold. He makes the call. You don't have any right to second guess him. If you did, you would be a co-manager. I would have fired your ass.

Man, this is like a caste thing for you isn't it??
Who knows ... maybe you're right. I'm just damn glad I don't have to work under those conditions.

 

[goog]

Interesting thread. With prove you can file charges against your boss. Of course the regional will back him and the company that's what he's paid to do (unless dickwad boss has a history and regional is looking to punt the guy out the door).

AIWGuru if your boss told you to jump off a bridge ... I hope you know how to swim. When your boss is in the wrong you call him on it, if and when it is detrimental to you, your customer, your buddy, your job, your company...I take it you get the idea. Quit being such a pussy yesman. Best to talk to the boss in private not make a scene in front of other employees (I've done this and had the manager back me - it's called knowing where you stand and knowing who your friends are). Unless of course you fear for your safety then do it in public.

As for the TV technically it can be resold, but as noted this is bad for business as that customer should throw a tantrum if he comes back for it and the store no longer has it. The boss would have to be sure to have another exact TV available for when either customer wanted their TV, otherwise you're asking for trouble. Sounds like the boss was peeved he lost the commission do to no available stock.

 

[TitanDiddly]

BBB? DEA?

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: goog
AIWGuru if your boss told you to jump off a bridge ... I hope you know how to swim.

Thank you for owning him. OWNED.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: goog
Interesting thread. With prove you can file charges against your boss. Of course the regional will back him and the company that's what he's paid to do (unless dickwad boss has a history and regional is looking to punt the guy out the door).

AIWGuru if your boss told you to jump off a bridge ... I hope you know how to swim. When your boss is in the wrong you call him on it, if and when it is detrimental to you, your customer, your buddy, your job, your company...I take it you get the idea. Quit being such a pussy yesman. Best to talk to the boss in private not make a scene in front of other employees (I've done this and had the manager back me - it's called knowing where you stand and knowing who your friends are). Unless of course you fear for your safety then do it in public.

As for the TV technically it can be resold, but as noted this is bad for business as that customer should throw a tantrum if he comes back for it and the store no longer has it. The boss would have to be sure to have another exact TV available for when either customer wanted their TV, otherwise you're asking for trouble. Sounds like the boss was peeved he lost the commission do to no available stock.

wow...this thread got bumped out of nowhere.

The funny thing is that my boss sold the TV $500 under our cost to get paid on the warranty. My deal had roughly $2k in profit in it.

As for update, there isnt much to talk about. The boss that threatenned me hasnt spoken to me since this happened. I havent talked to the regional since, so no update on him. I did make it very clear that if anything like that happened again we would be in court.

 

[Pliablemoose]

1.) Find out what tha laws in your state are about recording conversations.
2.) If you can (legally) keep a small tape recorder in your pocket & record the conversation next time your boss pulls this crap (you need it on tape, not on a chip BTW, just in case).
3.) File a hostile work environment lawsuit, if you have a legal recording, you will win.
4.) In the meantime, but a 99 cent notebook & keep a log, you'd be amazed how valuable a hand written dated log is in court.
5.) If you have any problems as the result of this environment (like insomnia or anxiety) you need visits to your physician to document alleged damages.


IMHO, the regional guy backed up the manager because he felt that's what he had to do (it was wrong).

If you go this route, you'll prob end up quitting your job sometime during the process (or being fired)

Seems like there's no middle ground in employment, if there are no unions, management can degrade to this level & with unions, you can end up keeping very troublesome employees.

 

[EvanGeliSt]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein

Originally posted by: yobarman do you work at a retail chain? if that were the case i'd be walking around with a tape recorder all the time, with these people threatening me, and BAM! sue their asses!

I'm w/ yobarman on this! Sorry to hear about your day GoodDad

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: GoodDad

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: GoodDad

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.

obviously you have never worked on a sales floor. Its every man for himself. I was in the right not letting him sell the TV, the regional agreed with me on that point. My customer wanted his TV in the store ready for pickup whenever he wanted it. A guy drops that much money, he can make the rules like that.

I have the right to stick up for myself and my customer. If I didnt, the customer might be posting here about his bad experience with me.

I dont mean to flame, but you really dont sound like you know how things work.

Yes, I have worked retail. No, you never have a right to argue with a manager. Provide him with the info. Tell him it's sold. He makes the call. You don't have any right to second guess him. If you did, you would be a co-manager. I would have fired your ass.

I would have loved for them to fire me. I would be collecting unenjoyment and laughing all the way to the bank. Retail is different than sales. We get paid 100% comission, no hourly. If I dont sell, I dont eat. Its a whole different world buddy.

I've worked on comission to. I know what it's like. Doesn't change anything. If this is the best defense you can come up with for your inappropriate behaviour, well....good luck. I think you're really lucky he threatened you rather than fired you. You would have no recourse when fired since you were way outta line. At least this way, you're in the right. He shoudln't have threatened you.

LOL, dude...my buddy worked for sears, he worked commision lawn and garden and was a damn good salesman. He did whatever he wanted and they just WOULD NOT fire him. He came in up to an hour late every day, he told off his managers pretty often and disobeyed their orders that he do any non-sales stuff, and everytime I came in he would take a 2 hour 'lunch break' with me and walk around the mall. But he moved product, and moved it well....so they never touched him. He ended up quiting after 3 or 4 years and going to home depot.