another typical day at work (got my life threatened by my boss)

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rudeguy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Get a recorder. Record this up when it happens next time. (Oh, it will happen again, don't worry.) Then sue. This is bull.

If that doesn't work, vandalism is the great equalizer.

I can do way worse damage than vandalism, but I dont want to stoop to their level.

As far as the recorder, my cell phone does have one built in. But I dont know if I want to deal with all this until it does happen again.
 

boyRacer

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There's gotta be someone else that saw all that... i'm not taking that kind of crap when i didnt do anything wrong.
 

cressida

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Get a tape recorder, please fight back. I don't know how many time my relatives have goten screwed over and let it still go on (similar situations).
 

Uppsala9496

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It's going to be your word against his. What happened with the tv? Go to the other customer? Do you have documentation about the sale (your paper work with a timestamp or something??)?
An EEOC filing (complaint to the state equal employment commission) is free. if they find no fault, or "possible" fault, then you need a lawyer.
Before you file the complaint, be ready to get a new job....
 

rudeguy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
It's going to be your word against his. What happened with the tv? Go to the other customer? Do you have documentation about the sale (your paper work with a timestamp or something??)?
An EEOC filing (complaint to the state equal employment commission) is free. if they find no fault, or "possible" fault, then you need a lawyer.
Before you file the complaint, be ready to get a new job....

The TV didnt get sold because I was in the right.

You sound like you actually know what you are talking about. Should I take action, or just let this go?
 

KK

Lifer
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Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
It's going to be your word against his. What happened with the tv? Go to the other customer? Do you have documentation about the sale (your paper work with a timestamp or something??)?
An EEOC filing (complaint to the state equal employment commission) is free. if they find no fault, or "possible" fault, then you need a lawyer.
Before you file the complaint, be ready to get a new job....

The TV didnt get sold because I was in the right.

You sound like you actually know what you are talking about. Should I take action, or just let this go?

Don't let it go, fvck his wife.

KK
 

Excelsior

Lifer
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Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Any good lawyer will work on a percentage of settlement. They won't charge fees up front. Find one of those. Then sue the hell out of your workplace. Also I like the tape recorder idea in case your boss threatens you in any way again. If he does, it doesn't even have to be a death threat, it will make him look guiltier in court. Don't tell anyone you are suing, and look for a new job while you can.

meh...I think I am going to have to find a new job.

But getting a job that pays as much as I make now will be hard. I have been working at my current job for 5 years now. The only thing I know how to do is sell. The job market in Michigan pretty much sucks right now too.

Gaaah

Find something new to sell, seriously.



 

StageLeft

No Lifer
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Wow, your company funking sucks, gooddad. Sorry to hear about this :( I'm not sure what I'd do, besides the obvious of looking for a new job. Hopefully you can get an employee discount on a personal recorder, and you could carry it with you in the future...? Hell, buy it, and then approach your boss again and get him riled up, then you can nail him :evil: <- he deserves it.
The only thing I know how to do is sell.
Ah your employment options are severely limited.

Kidding. If you can sell that's like the best asset. It's something that no matter what education I ever get or experience I will never have the true knack to doing. You probably know this already ;)

What company do you work at? If it's a chain you can tell us :) Of course then in support of you we'd not shop there, but if you're still working there it only hurts you, so no don't tell us...
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Wow, your company funking sucks, gooddad. Sorry to hear about this :( I'm not sure what I'd do, besides the obvious of looking for a new job. Hopefully you can get an employee discount on a personal recorder, and you could carry it with you in the future...? Hell, buy it, and then approach your boss again and get him riled up, then you can nail him :evil: <- he deserves it.
The only thing I know how to do is sell.
Ah your employment options are severely limited.

Kidding. If you can sell that's like the best asset. It's something that no matter what education I ever get or experience I will never have the true knack to doing. You probably know this already ;)

What company do you work at? If it's a chain you can tell us :) Of course then in support of you we'd not shop there, but if you're still working there it only hurts you, so no don't tell us...

I dont mention it much, but I work for abc warehouse Its a local chain, we have 42 stores in MI, OH and IN.

I know that if you can sell you can go sell anything. But the job market in MI really does suck. There are no jobs, I have looked.

Thanks for the kind words though Skoorby, you really are a great guy. I wish you and the mrs. the best!
 

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Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Wow, your company funking sucks, gooddad. Sorry to hear about this :( I'm not sure what I'd do, besides the obvious of looking for a new job. Hopefully you can get an employee discount on a personal recorder, and you could carry it with you in the future...? Hell, buy it, and then approach your boss again and get him riled up, then you can nail him :evil: <- he deserves it.
The only thing I know how to do is sell.
Ah your employment options are severely limited.

Kidding. If you can sell that's like the best asset. It's something that no matter what education I ever get or experience I will never have the true knack to doing. You probably know this already ;)

What company do you work at? If it's a chain you can tell us :) Of course then in support of you we'd not shop there, but if you're still working there it only hurts you, so no don't tell us...

I dont mention it much, but I work for abc warehouse Its a local chain, we have 42 stores in MI, OH and IN.

I know that if you can sell you can go sell anything. But the job market in MI really does suck. There are no jobs, I have looked.

Thanks for the kind words though Skoorby, you really are a great guy. I wish you and the mrs. the best!
Hmm, I suppose that if I were you I think I would continue to put some time in every week looking for work (eventually something will come up), and in the meantime continue at my job making decent money and carrying a very small recorder, which I could use any time I have an immediate run in with my boss (unless it's every 10 min in which case that would be a major hassel). Goodluck!

 

Siddhartha

Lifer
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If you were in an union your boss would not get away with that. Sounds like you are screwed for the rest of the time you work at that sh!thole. I am sure your boss will make sure you get fired as soon as possible.
 

hg321

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Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Any good lawyer will work on a percentage of settlement. They won't charge fees up front. Find one of those. Then sue the hell out of your workplace. Also I like the tape recorder idea in case your boss threatens you in any way again. If he does, it doesn't even have to be a death threat, it will make him look guiltier in court. Don't tell anyone you are suing, and look for a new job while you can.

meh...I think I am going to have to find a new job.

But getting a job that pays as much as I make now will be hard. I have been working at my current job for 5 years now. The only thing I know how to do is sell. The job market in Michigan pretty much sucks right now too.

Gaaah

While you are looking for another job, get a recorder and keep it with you....I have a feeling your boss is going to make it VERY bad on you until you can get out of there. Also do not let him get you by yourself... keep witnesses nearby.

 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: hg321
Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Any good lawyer will work on a percentage of settlement. They won't charge fees up front. Find one of those. Then sue the hell out of your workplace. Also I like the tape recorder idea in case your boss threatens you in any way again. If he does, it doesn't even have to be a death threat, it will make him look guiltier in court. Don't tell anyone you are suing, and look for a new job while you can.

meh...I think I am going to have to find a new job.

But getting a job that pays as much as I make now will be hard. I have been working at my current job for 5 years now. The only thing I know how to do is sell. The job market in Michigan pretty much sucks right now too.

Gaaah

While you are looking for another job, get a recorder and keep it with you....I have a feeling your boss is going to make it VERY bad on you until you can get out of there. Also do not let him get you by yourself... keep witnesses nearby.

I know he will. The good thing is that I am very good at my job, so I dont have to worry about getting fired. I make the managers alot of money.

I just wish that today hadnt happenned. I didnt do anything. I came in with a good attitude and was looking forward to making lots of money....then this asshat goes on a power trip.

Maybe its time I really looked into starting my own computer shop. There are only a few here in town, and they all suck.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
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I just wish that today hadnt happenned. I didnt do anything. I came in with a good attitude and was looking forward to making lots of money....then this asshat goes on a power trip.
Hmm, it's possible that honestly he feels bad about being a big piece of sh*t today and perhaps would apologize, though I doubt it. I'd see it as more of a flaw of him than yourself. He may have been in a touchy mood and would have blown at anybody?
 

AIWGuru

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Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
You told the boss that the TV was already sold. Then he told you he was going to sell it anyway. End of story. you gave him the info, and he made his decision. Now he can deal with the consequences. It is NEVER appropriate for an employee to go toe to toe with a boss like that. He made his decision and you have to deal with that since you're not a manager. You're (or were) a subordinate.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

edit: regardless of what happened the boss does not have the right to threaten his life.
 

AIWGuru

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.


actually NO he could not sale the item. IT WAS NOT HIS TO SALE.

anyway it really bad business to sale something and HOPE he can get onothe before the real owner of the prduct comes in to claim it.
 

Gunbuster

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Try watching wonderfalls and emulating Jaye's level of employee apathy.

Don't get so worked up, it's only retail
 

AIWGuru

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.


actually NO he could not sale the item. IT WAS NOT HIS TO SALE.

anyway it really bad business to sale something and HOPE he can get onothe before the real owner of the prduct comes in to claim it.

- yes he could. he's the manager. He can take responsibility for the consequences.

-bad business, yes. But he's the manager. Once he's been provided with the info and he makes the call, that's it. There's no argument telling him how to do his job. He can be a bad manager if he wants. Higher ups will deal with that, not subordinates.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.

obviously you have never worked on a sales floor. Its every man for himself. I was in the right not letting him sell the TV, the regional agreed with me on that point. My customer wanted his TV in the store ready for pickup whenever he wanted it. A guy drops that much money, he can make the rules like that.

I have the right to stick up for myself and my customer. If I didnt, the customer might be posting here about his bad experience with me.

I dont mean to flame, but you really dont sound like you know how things work.
 

AIWGuru

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BUT it's a shame he couldn't controll himself and threatened you.
It's a shame he didn't discipline you properly for not knowing your place.
 

AIWGuru

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Originally posted by: GoodDad
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Not that I'm not tired of your regular work stories...
what right did you have to tell him he couldn't sell something.
He's the manager. You're an employee.
He was right.
If he wanted to sell it, he could and he can deal with your customer when they come in.
It's his damn store.
You have no business telling him how to run it.
If you try to tell your boss how to run a business, you'll usually find yourself on the long end of an unemployment line.
I think you've been working there too long and mistankenly feel you're on equal footing with your boss.

actually he couldnt sale it. IT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR. even though the item is still in the store it is not the stores to re-sale.

And yes he did have the right to say that the item is already sold.

He had the right to say it, not argue with the decision after he made it based on that info. Doing that anywhere I've worked = discipline or fired.

He COULD sell it since he thought he could get a replacement for the first customer.
He's managing the store and he can run it as he pleases.
Subordinates have no business telling him how to run it.

obviously you have never worked on a sales floor. Its every man for himself. I was in the right not letting him sell the TV, the regional agreed with me on that point. My customer wanted his TV in the store ready for pickup whenever he wanted it. A guy drops that much money, he can make the rules like that.

I have the right to stick up for myself and my customer. If I didnt, the customer might be posting here about his bad experience with me.

I dont mean to flame, but you really dont sound like you know how things work.

Yes, I have worked retail. No, you never have a right to argue with a manager. Provide him with the info. Tell him it's sold. He makes the call. You don't have any right to second guess him. If you did, you would be a co-manager. I would have fired your ass.