Another tower Defense flash game

[dxkj]

anyone able to get the fullscreen version anymore? it keeps redirecting me now.

 

[hoyaguru]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Here's a step by step guide to get through the whole game with fire towers. You should end with a score of about 13,800, that's about as high as I've been able to get. I'll try a combo tower strategy next.

Sorry, but that step by step guide is FAR from the best strategy.
ALWAYS put your guys on the right side of the screen, and always above the halfway point. That way, they'll have 2 chances at everyone. While you can argue that those other locations have 2 chances, the front of the string is already at their 2nd shooting direction prior to the end of the string making it to the 1st shooting direction.

And, for those bad at math... Let's say I have 50 more gold than you after round 7.
After round 8, that difference will be (including interest each time)
8: 55
9: 61
10: 67
11: 84
12: 92
13: 101
14: 111
15: (interest is now 15%) 128
16: 147
17: 169
18: 194
19: 223
20: 256
21: 294
22: (interest is now 20%) 353
23: 424
24: 509
25: 611
26: 733
27: 880
28: 1056
29 (interest is now 25%) 1320
30: 1650
B1: 2063
B2: 2579
B3: 3224
B4: 4030
B5: 5037

Or, effectively, every point at level 7 is multiplied by 100 by the end of the game.
That's the value of compound interest. Thus, every single point matters on the first 7 levels. A difference of 10 gold pieces at the end of level 7 = a difference of 1000 gold pieces at the end of the game.

Never claimed it was the best strategy, it is just A strategy to get past level 35. I have no doubt (looking at the high scores) that there are a lot better strategies out there.

 

[dxkj]

38.048

made a few mistakes and didnt pack things in tight... I figure if i overlap my cannons perfectly I could make it past the final level and that would put me up to 46k or so./

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
okay, I simplified it a bit... all the cannons and fire towers are in the right vertical green area, on the left side of the green, bordering the path of the monsters; starting at the vertical center and working your way up. Just finished the 5th bonus level, I blundered on level 24 and lost almost all my guys. If it wasn't for that, my score would be quite a bit higher; ended up with 19838 points.

Here's the progression until level 24. During the bonus levels, I just went nuts upgrading. I over-upgraded; all the monsters were killed before they made it half a lap around (thus, I wasted a LOT of gold, and 25% interest on that gold really would have added up. So, here it is:

Level 1, one cannon (note, all cannons on the right side, beginning half way up and working up vertically)
Level 2, add 2 cannons
Level 3, add a cannon, upgrade 2nd one down
Level 4, nothing needed.
Level 5, Add cannon
Level 6, upgrade another cannon (top one) 1 got through...
Level 7: nothing
Level 8, get the fire tower, sell the cannons, place 1 fire tower in the right column at the top left edge.
Level 9, 2nd fire tower just below the 1st fire tower
Level 10, nothing
level 11, nothing
Level 12, add fire tower kitty corner (up and to the left) first fire tower.
level 13: nothing
level 14: nothing Don't forget to add interest at the end of this level
(at the end of level 14, I have 548 gold, 649 points)
level 15 nothing
level 16 nothing
level 17 nothing
level 18 add 2 fire towers; total of 6 now.
level 19 nothing
level 20 nothing. 1450 gold, 1561 points
level 21 nothing INCREASE THE INTEREST RATE AFTER THIS LEVEL
level 22 1 fire tower
level 23 1 more fire tower
level 24 added 1 fire tower OOoops (fast level) Got my butt kicked... down to 7 people.

At the end of level 29, I have 15 fire towers, 8296 gold, (earning 25% interest), and 7387 points.

Added 5 towers for level 30 ick, added 2 more during the level, down to 2 guys...
Finished level 9967 gold, 9074 points. Oh crap. Upgrading during the 1st bonus level; finished bonus level 1 with 9990 gold, 1126 points

Game ended with (as above) 19838 points.

Okay, this no longer is adequate. could you show where you aree placing these towers. I don't know where the kitty corner is.

 

[dxkj]

Switched to fire tower 21,107

That 5% interest hurts...

 

[DrPizza]

Okay, here is the optimum area for fire towers... I have no problem wiping out all 35 levels, plus having plenty of gold left over. It'll take some tweaking, but apparently dxkj's strategy of just going for the interest and relying on overlapping cannons is better.
strategy.JPG
Just finished one game with 21351

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
Okay, here is the optimum area for fire towers... I have no problem wiping out all 35 levels, plus having plenty of gold left over. It'll take some tweaking, but apparently dxkj's strategy of just going for the interest and relying on overlapping cannons is better.
strategy.JPG
Just finished one game with 21351

edit: I'm sure I can tweak this just a little bit, but I don't think this strategy is going to come close to 40k. Looks like the interest is more important.

DXKJ, how bout a screen shot of one of the higher levels for you?

edit: Ooooops, I hit quote, not edit.

 

[alphatarget1]

at 30,000 hp, those fire towers just arne't enough, im trying to get as many rocket towers with upgrades as i can, upgrades (190g) is better than a new tower (200g)

 

[dxkj]

40.826... I dont think it is possible to get past the final level with just cannons.

 

[dxkj]

33,906 using fire towers.... still nowhere near from using just cannons

You dont get the interest on the last level so its not really a big deal if you finish

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: lizardboy
I got to the 4th or 5th bonus level ("How Are you Still Alive"). The key, I think, is to build as little as possible early and earn interest on your money (someone's prob pointed this out already). At the end, I had two fully-upgraded water towers and 10 fire towers, 8 of which were fully upgraded. Fun game.

:thumbsup:

 

[dxkj]

43,389 score

rank 3 currently, woo

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Here's a step by step guide to get through the whole game with fire towers. You should end with a score of about 13,800, that's about as high as I've been able to get. I'll try a combo tower strategy next.

Sorry, but that step by step guide is FAR from the best strategy.
ALWAYS put your guys on the right side of the screen, and always above the halfway point. That way, they'll have 2 chances at everyone. While you can argue that those other locations have 2 chances, the front of the string is already at their 2nd shooting direction prior to the end of the string making it to the 1st shooting direction.

And, for those bad at math... Let's say I have 50 more gold than you after round 7.
After round 8, that difference will be (including interest each time)
8: 55
9: 61
10: 67
11: 84
12: 92
13: 101
14: 111
15: (interest is now 15%) 128
16: 147
17: 169
18: 194
19: 223
20: 256
21: 294
22: (interest is now 20%) 353
23: 424
24: 509
25: 611
26: 733
27: 880
28: 1056
29 (interest is now 25%) 1320
30: 1650
B1: 2063
B2: 2579
B3: 3224
B4: 4030
B5: 5037

Or, effectively, every point at level 7 is multiplied by 100 by the end of the game.
That's the value of compound interest. Thus, every single point matters on the first 7 levels. A difference of 10 gold pieces at the end of level 7 = a difference of 1000 gold pieces at the end of the game.

I tried this strategy and got 23,633. I used fewer towers than you did and focused on upgrading rather than more towers. By the end I had well over 15,000 gold.

 

[SVT Cobra]

I cannot get past Bonus level 3. All firetowers.

 

[FoBoT]

i finally broke 10K

11,973

with beating B-level 5

oh well, what is the next game?

 

[Elbryn]

43k this time. i used this strategy which i think can yield higher numbers. i made too many towers in the 10k bonus level.

take all interest until the last wood, level 28. put in 1 fully upgraded air tower for the first air level, sell it. at 15% interest you'll cover costs and more by the next air level
do the same for the air levels.
at level 28, get the fire element
eke out the next level with cannons, then sell them all and switch out to fire towers
then its an adding as few towers as possible and surviving.

 

[dxkj]

Originally posted by: Elbryn
43k this time. i used this strategy which i think can yield higher numbers. i made too many towers in the 10k bonus level.

take all interest until the last wood, level 28. put in 1 fully upgraded air tower for the first air level, sell it. at 15% interest you'll cover costs and more by the next air level
do the same for the air levels.
at level 28, get the fire element
eke out the next level with cannons, then sell them all and switch out to fire towers
then its an adding as few towers as possible and surviving.

8 dxkj 43,389 +8 hours
9 Elbryn 43,183 +0 hours


Nipping at my heels. I did mine with purely cannons, but I see how fire can help, but havnt been able to get past 33k with fire

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
okay, I simplified it a bit... all the cannons and fire towers are in the right vertical green area, on the left side of the green, bordering the path of the monsters; starting at the vertical center and working your way up. Just finished the 5th bonus level, I blundered on level 24 and lost almost all my guys. If it wasn't for that, my score would be quite a bit higher; ended up with 19838 points.

Here's the progression until level 24. During the bonus levels, I just went nuts upgrading. I over-upgraded; all the monsters were killed before they made it half a lap around (thus, I wasted a LOT of gold, and 25% interest on that gold really would have added up. So, here it is:

Level 1, one cannon (note, all cannons on the right side, beginning half way up and working up vertically)
Level 2, add 2 cannons
Level 3, add a cannon, upgrade 2nd one down
Level 4, nothing needed.
Level 5, Add cannon
Level 6, upgrade another cannon (top one) 1 got through...
Level 7: nothing
Level 8, get the fire tower, sell the cannons, place 1 fire tower in the right column at the top left edge.
Level 9, 2nd fire tower just below the 1st fire tower
Level 10, nothing
level 11, nothing
Level 12, add fire tower kitty corner (up and to the left) first fire tower.
level 13: nothing
level 14: nothing Don't forget to add interest at the end of this level
(at the end of level 14, I have 548 gold, 649 points)
level 15 nothing
level 16 nothing
level 17 nothing
level 18 add 2 fire towers; total of 6 now.
level 19 nothing
level 20 nothing. 1450 gold, 1561 points
level 21 nothing INCREASE THE INTEREST RATE AFTER THIS LEVEL
level 22 1 fire tower
level 23 1 more fire tower
level 24 added 1 fire tower OOoops (fast level) Got my butt kicked... down to 7 people.

At the end of level 29, I have 15 fire towers, 8296 gold, (earning 25% interest), and 7387 points.

Added 5 towers for level 30 ick, added 2 more during the level, down to 2 guys...
Finished level 9967 gold, 9074 points. Oh crap. Upgrading during the 1st bonus level; finished bonus level 1 with 9990 gold, 1126 points

Game ended with (as above) 19838 points.

I did similar to what you did, a few changes though. After 30 levels I ended up with 10,253 in gold, 9203 points and lost 6 lives in level 30 (none before that). The best configuration and upgrade options are hard to figure out in the bonus levels. The best I could do was finishing at 24,402 points.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: dxkj

Originally posted by: Mwilding
been working on the early level efficiency. Best effort so far at level 7 after selling cannons:

gold: 241
lives: 19
wood: 1
points: 241

without detailing placement (focus on spots where the gun gets to shoot at every creep twice), My total cannons went as follows by level:

1
3
4
5
6
8
8

Early on I thought it was important to maximize the area a cannon can fire at, but really they need to be placed somewhere that the creeps have time to pass by them completely before seeing them again, otherwise it is a waste

edit: also I can get the 1 , 3 ,4 , 5 ,6 as you list above, but 8 is no where near enough for me at level 6 or 7 , do you have a screenshot of your placement? all of my cannons have 2 spots to fire at.

I use just 4 cannon for the first 7 levels. 1 of them is upgraded twice, once at level 2 and once at level 6, and I end the 7th level with 190 gold and 250 points, no lives lost. The gold count here is before selling any cannon. Selling off the cannon gives me 245 in gold.

 

[dxkj]

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: dxkj

Originally posted by: Mwilding
been working on the early level efficiency. Best effort so far at level 7 after selling cannons:

gold: 241
lives: 19
wood: 1
points: 241

without detailing placement (focus on spots where the gun gets to shoot at every creep twice), My total cannons went as follows by level:

1
3
4
5
6
8
8

Early on I thought it was important to maximize the area a cannon can fire at, but really they need to be placed somewhere that the creeps have time to pass by them completely before seeing them again, otherwise it is a waste

edit: also I can get the 1 , 3 ,4 , 5 ,6 as you list above, but 8 is no where near enough for me at level 6 or 7 , do you have a screenshot of your placement? all of my cannons have 2 spots to fire at.

I use just 4 cannon for the first 7 levels. 1 of them is upgraded twice, once at level 2 and once at level 6, and I end the 7th level with 190 gold and 250 points, no lives lost. The gold count here is before selling any cannon. Selling off the cannon gives me 245 in gold.

My best so far is 197 at the end of level 7, but ive also gotten 191 with 8 unupgraded cannons

 

[Zoblefu]

Way to go, trying to refresh thread and refreshed the game... was on level 27

 

[Howard]

Why don't my towers shoot?

 

[Mark R]

How do you get past Bonus level 4? those things are ridiculously tough

Edit. Finished it. (BL 5 wasn't that much harder)

 

[jjones]

40,372 using all cannon except the air levels. Didn't even finish bonus level 4 though. The problem with the cannon is I can't pack them in as tight as I can the fire towers so quite a few are only getting a single pass on the creeps.

Edit: Best score is now 48,530.

All cannon but didn't finish bonus level 5. Ran out of real estate for any more cannon and packed them in about as tight as you can get it. Probably less than a dozen or so cannon could have been packed in beyond what I had, so I don't think it's possible to finish bonus 5 on just cannon. Anyway, I quit. 48,530 is as good as I'm going to get and I've wasted enough time on this game.

 

[mchammer]

We should try this again, but with no overlapping allowed. I think it is against the intent of the game. (Plus it is a PITA)