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The function of government is to protect human rights, and of religion to supply them. The perversion of government is to protect special interests and religion to improperly codify them.
If government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed it established unjust powers at the behest of the governed too, no. And the bigoted fanatic who allies to old text is a willing buyer. He exchanges the illusion of certainty for the the dangers of open love.
In all things it is the consciousness of people that matters for the presence of consciousness creates good manners and the kind of folk you would want at your table, I think.
You might want to take another look at the Constitution
I understand what you say here and made the very point in a recent thread, but there is nothing in the Constitution or anywhere else that proves God given rights.
It is only an assumption the founding fathers made. You feel those rights to be there but you don't know what they are, eh, without pulling them out of your hat.
If God did not create us, we would never have had the option to sin.
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Rubbish. Nobody knows how we got here. You read a book and you think you know something. You know nothing at all. Why, for example, would anybody with free will decide to sin? I bet you invent a story of original sin to explain it, right? That man at his core is evil. The Buddha found redemption under the Bo tree but your indoctrinated and can't see that truth.
Correction, YOU don't know.
I do know.
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You, like everyone else knows nothing. You experience something you don't understand and fancy yourself enlightened. There are a million paths to the same state. But your ego is still precious to you and you claim to be special.
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Understand how to find the release from bondage by understanding what it is.
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What happens when the light of the word becomes tainted, when the men were trusted to interpret that book ended up revising it?
The grave of my creation became my rebirth, in the shattered remains of my Christian faith I found a confidence in the God I feel in the world around me, the God I see when I stargaze, or when I spend time with my cousins. God is the realization that pain is necessary for change, and that to feel pain is to be alive.
God is indeed love, He is birth and He is also mercifully death, for death is a part of our universe.
Giving up my faith was a dive, LMK, a free fall into an unknown. I sat there for a good two hours on that night when I pondered the fate of my soul, and I was scared, scared of what will happen to my soul after death, scared of going to Hell. It was at the moment when I realized that I was scared of going to hell that I made that final jump. My faith in God is predicated upon love, and a faith which relies upon fear as a bedrock of its belief structure is not my faith. ---Originally Posted by my friend Orsorum
Oh God save us from the certain, from those who walk the millions of only one true paths, from the colossally lucky whose parents brought them up by a fucking miracle in just that very path.
Of course, it isn't really a big concern that these folk be exterminated before the come to the table because they are hell bent on doing just that to one another.
So true. The source of all our inalienable rights is the fact that we are nothing but a big chimp that loves, in my opinion, that can feel what it is to be you and love you for the joy that brings us. Blessed are you for you love your friend, Orosrum.
Mankind is the computer and nations and groupings the components which Nature uses to experimentally decide such questions. The religious/republican vs. secular/liberal split is a bizarre routine used to test, eliminate, and evolve some of the umpteen possibilities as the ancient contest of anarchy vs. socialism progresses, having deemed the currently known versions of the two alternatives as unsatisfactory. Or so I think I've read, but I'm not sure that I read it correctly and I'm suspicious of writing of the machine within the machine.
It is Written:
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
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actually, jesus liked hangin' with sinners because they were a more happenin' crew... it gets stale when everyone always agrees with each other... but he could get a bit ticked eventually, see 'pearls b4 swine'...
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It is Written:
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Do not misinterpet this qoute. Christ lived his life as an example to all . Is it possiable to do as Christ said with out taking on the religions that beat us down . I think a good man wo walks in the light needs not religion.
He brought us fulfillment . We do not know all that Christ said . So much was hidden to decieve us . That Holy Bible you read from . The New Testment . Your not foolish enough to believe that a Book compiled by Roman leadership contains the whole trueth and nothing but the trueth. Your a fool to believe such a thing . Find out about ROME and the Church learn the trieth and stop the hating . Live and let die . Don't worry about how your neighbor lives his life its his choice . But Live your life . Don't spread religious lies. You want to be saved live the life Christ lived do as he says . You will find there are very few restraints binding you . A good example of a religious lie is the moslem belief that he was a great prophet like Mohammed. Yet they reject half of what we believe he said . To me Mohammed= PAUL(ROME)
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I have had request for my email . So I set one up for those who want it. bobatty11@msn.com. Women I am happily married please do not bother me with questions that are not suitable . I have been threw that and had to dish old adderesses, The Child in the avatar. He puts me to shame. Look into those eyes that face it is exultant is it not . The mind behind those eyes is extraordinary. Yesterday we told the child me and grandma were getting a divorce but we would still be living together and I explained to him why and the reasoning . He said to us both with a look we can't explain . That is wrong grandpa and grandma. I felt like crawling into a hole he shamed me so. So I guess I have to live as I always have in the past . I feel bad it took a 2 1/2 year old to make me see that. I can't make up my own rules.
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It is Written:
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
What you should worry about is that you haven't come to Him though Jesus either. You are a believer in Christianity, not a Christian. You are an externals fanatic and know nothing of the inner truth. You worship a bridge that was intended for crossing. Those who cross have no use for the bridge.
Do you really imagine that the narrow gate to heaven is a person who lived long ago? Hehe, the kingdom of heaven is within you, no, so this Jesus thingi must be too, maybe who we all really are and He was because He knew it, is a thing called many names and might today be called the real or true self, the self we would have been had we not been made sick as children.
Jesus IS the WAY, but the WAY can have many other names. It may help while on the bridge to cross it to believe one is on the one true way, but to set up camp on the bridge to defend it and claim it as ones own is delusion and the source of endless misery and death. I think what you have done is substituted the feeling you are special for the truth of universal love.
I have nothing against Christianity except where we see this exclusivity. Christianity is one real path. Why can't you be content with that?
Very true. Heathens can often be closer to the truth than a church member sitting in a pew doing nothing for 50 years. Let's not forget that Jesus came to win as many heathens as possible. How do I know? I was one.
I agree that religion is not necessary. What is necessary is accepting the fact that only the sacrifice made by Jesus will get you into heaven. Following the teachings of Jesus will give you a happy and successful life on earth. It won't get you into heaven.
It is Written: "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
It is Written... from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
The Democrat party is an example of a religious group spreading lies.
Islam is a perversion of Christianity. If you look at the violence that comes out of Islam, this is apparent.
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