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realibrad

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Because I think I have a reasonable guess about why you approach conversation the way that you do, but I think it would be in poor form to make that guess publicly.

Ah, so am I correct in that you believe there is a form of mental deficiency? If that is your belief, then no I do not have any form of autism.
 

Younigue

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No, not only do I not believe I'm an "intellectual dynamo", I also don't believe I'm above average. I think what makes me different is mainly what I find interesting. I personally enjoy taking arguments and seeing if it holds up to extremes and if not, then why. Most seem to have arguments that generally work and then drop it. That is what seems to be annoying. I think the biggest issue is that people assume that my poking and prodding is something more than me trying to understand.
What you're coming up against is most people do not want to belabor an issue to the degree that you do. You've been told by many that your introduction of debatable content is either inadequate, not comparable or just plain ole reaching. You're not looking to learn, you go in to every conversation with a fully formed opinion/belief of your own. You have one intention, opposition (even toward absurdity).

Another thing I believe you're coming up against is that you are trying to thrust your love of debate on to people that see there is enough with today's climate to debate already without your tedious game.

This isn't an actual debate club. No one here has given you that assignment. Your grade doesn't hinge on you taking an opposition stance to everything you see written. Express your own opinions and I promise debate will come to you.
 
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realibrad

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What you're coming up against is most people do not want to belabor an issue to the degree that you do. You've been told by many that your introduction of debatable content is either inadequate, not comparable or just plain ole reaching. You're not looking to learn, you go in to every conversation with a fully formed opinion/belief of your own. You have one intention, opposition (even toward absurdity).

Another thing I believe you're coming up against is that you are trying to thrust your love of debate on to people that see there is enough with today's climate to debate already without your tedious game.

This isn't an actual debate club. No one here has given you that assignment. Your grade doesn't hinge on you taking an opposition stance to everything you see written. Express your own opinions and I promise debate will come to you.

So, what do you suggest that I not belabor issues to the degree that I do while bringing more content, engage in debates in this climate of debate while not being tedious, and express my opinions to get debates while not annoying people by giving my opinions?

For example, you just replied to someone that said that I love to hear my own voice too much. Your response was to question if I love to hear my own thoughts more than opposing thoughts. That seems strange given how often I try to get people to expand on their ideas more. How can I ask people to explain more, and then fight against the idea that I am asking too much? It seems you are expecting something mutually exclusive no?
 

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Are you shocked by this? I put him on ignore, he takes all sides of an issue and argues just to argue.

My impression is that he's a fairly standard-issue libertarian. I don't agree with him (am unlikely to ever agree with libertarians, I feel that's a philosophy of a particular demographic group), but I don't feel he's particularly inconsistent. He is relentless, true. But isn't everyone here just to argue, ultimately?
 

Younigue

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So, what do you suggest that I not belabor issues to the degree that I do while bringing more content, engage in debates in this climate of debate while not being tedious, and express my opinions to get debates while not annoying people by giving my opinions?

For example, you just replied to someone that said that I love to hear my own voice too much. Your response was to question if I love to hear my own thoughts more than opposing thoughts. That seems strange given how often I try to get people to expand on their ideas more. How can I ask people to explain more, and then fight against the idea that I am asking too much? It seems you are expecting something mutually exclusive no?
Ramble Ramble Blah Blah.

So, you're saying you're here to widen people's horizons? From what I've seen you've had zero success. Maybe it's your approach? Annoyed people focus on being annoyed (and all the ridiculous things you go on and on about) not on the Big Lessons you're bent on gifting(?) them. Self-appointed forum educator might not be your gift after all.

I'm not even sure how you avoided getting lost in this last response of yours. I spoke plainly, you made it unnecessarily convoluted. That's your gift darling... pssst... This is one of those cases where it wouldn't be impolite to Return It. It is however the epitome of bad taste to keep re-gifting it. ... Wait for it... It's the re-gift that keeps on giving... and giving and giving and giving. If only it were a gift anyone wanted.

*note* This is coming from someone who invited her friends to give her ONLY re-gifts for her birthday one year. They were very creative. Too bad you're not. The half eaten giant lollipop I received beats your offerings every day of the week and twice on (It's too much pressure to pick just one day so I'm gong to go ahead and say every day of the week again) every day of the week.
 
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Younigue

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My impression is that he's a fairly standard-issue libertarian. I don't agree with him (am unlikely to ever agree with libertarians, I feel that's a philosophy of a particular demographic group), but I don't feel he's particularly inconsistent. He is relentless, true. But isn't everyone here just to argue, ultimately?
I think the common ground is that most people are arguing/debating with their own beliefs. It certainly adds a degree of authenticity and structure to one's pov if its their own. Reali just comes across as reali tedious and reali exhausting. Now, of course that is his right but fewer and fewer people will want to continue to engage with him if it's always going to be such a shitty, convoluted, endless commitment to do so. Power on @realibrad my man!
 

realibrad

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Ramble Ramble Blah Blah.

So, you're saying you're here to widen people's horizons? From what I've seen you've had zero success. Maybe it's your approach? Annoyed people focus on being annoyed (and all the ridiculous things you go on and on about) not on the Big Lessons you're bent on gifting(?) them. Self-appointed forum educator might not be your gift after all.

How is this your conclusion? Why do you not find it equally possible that I am trying to get others to expand on their ideas so I might learn from them? Why do you view everything as me imposing my views unto people?

I'm not even sure how you avoided getting lost in this last response of yours. I spoke plainly, you made it unnecessarily convoluted. That's your gift darling... pssst... This is one of those cases where it wouldn't be impolite to Return It. It is however the epitome of bad taste to keep re-gifting it. ... Wait for it... It's the re-gift that never stops giving... and giving and giving and giving. If only it were a gift anyone wanted.

Weird.

*note* This is coming from someone who invited her friends to give her ONLY re-gifts for her birthday one year. They were very creative. Too bad you're not. The half eaten giant lollipop I received beats your offerings every day of the week and twice on (It's too much pressure to pick just one day so I'm gong to go ahead and say every day of the week again) every day of the week.

Also weird.
 
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Younigue

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How is this your conclusion? Why do you not find it equally possible that I am trying to get others to expand on their ideas so I might learn from them? Why do you view everything as me imposing my vies unto people?



Weird.



Also weird.
*sigh* At least try to have a sense of humor.

I am bowing out of further discussion with you at this time. See, I said what I wanted to say and now (for the time being any way) I am going to move on.

Good day sir.... I SAID GOOD DAY!
 

realibrad

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*sigh* At least try to have a sense of humor.

I am bowing out of further discussion with you at this time. See, I said what I wanted to say and now (for the time being any way) I am going to move on.

Good day sir.... I SAID GOOD DAY!

Here is some humor then.

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Younigue

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Oh, I just remembered that someone says you are fat even though you are skinny. That was not an attempt at me trying to piggyback off of that. I just realized you might take it that way.
LOL! Never even entered my mind. Maybe it would have if I were insecure but I rarely suffer that affliction. Ask around, a couple of people here think my ego just won't quit (it don't) and it infuriates them.
 

realibrad

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DAMMIT! I laughed on both counts the joke and laughing at yourself!

Haha, got em.

LOL! Never even entered my mind. Maybe it would have if I were insecure but I rarely suffer that affliction. Ask around, a couple of people here think my ego just won't quit (it don't) and it infuriates them.

It's a weak attempt at an insult and says more about them than anything. As for ego, do you think yours is bigger than mine?
 

Younigue

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Haha, got em.



It's a weak attempt at an insult and says more about them than anything. As for ego, do you think yours is bigger than mine?
Nope. I have no clue where you are with your self-esteem. I have very good self-esteem but I am also a realist. A work in progress. In fact I find it strange that to admit that I'm smart, trim, funny, creative/talented, cute, comfortable in my own skin, love and trust myself, my spirit and my own mind (and my intentions most of the time) pisses them off so much. There are certainly descriptions out there better than the ones I apply to myself.

It took my 57 year old sister 43 of my 47 years to believe I love myself or even deserve to love myself (she was always envious and mad at me for it). I hold out no hope for knobs on here to ever manage not being small/hateful about it.
 

realibrad

Lifer
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Nope. I have no clue where you are with your self-esteem. I have very good self-esteem but I am also a realist. A work in progress. In fact I find it strange that to admit that I'm smart, trim, funny, creative/talented, cute, comfortable in my own skin, love and trust myself, my spirit and my own mind (and my intentions most of the time) pisses them off so much. There are certainly descriptions out there better than the ones I apply to myself.

It took my 57 year old sister 43 of my 47 years to believe I love myself or even deserve to love myself (she was always envious and mad at me for it). I hold out no hope for knobs on here to ever manage not being small/hateful about it.

Do you mind if I ask you some personal question on that? Seems like it would be interesting.
 

Younigue

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Do you mind if I ask you some personal question on that? Seems like it would be interesting.
Not on this thread though I am a open book. The thread title is "another school shooting" we've hijacked it long enough.