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Originally posted by: Richdog
I'm with Moonbeam I'm afraid (even if he is a little arrogant and pompous), the propaganda machine that is Bush (and Blair the lapdog, I'm a Brit) isn't going to stop until he's eradicated all his POTENTIAL enemies (not necessarily real ones). But I guess that's what you get for having a semi-illiterate man with a loopy father run the most powerful country on Earth...

When you make stupid statements like "a semi-illiterate man with a loopy father run the most powerful country on Earth.." then yes, I can see how you would be with moonie. The truth and facts don't seem to bother either of you.



 

Richdog

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LOL I'm afraid the facts speak for themselves, it's just a shame that the average American is so out of touch with the rest odf the world that they'll believe whatever's thrown at them, hook line and sinker.
And Bushs' father was actually a little unstable.
 

lupy

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Richdog
I'm with Moonbeam I'm afraid (even if he is a little arrogant and pompous), the propaganda machine that is Bush (and Blair the lapdog, I'm a Brit) isn't going to stop until he's eradicated all his POTENTIAL enemies (not necessarily real ones). But I guess that's what you get for having a semi-illiterate man with a loopy father run the most powerful country on Earth...

When you make stupid statements like "a semi-illiterate man with a loopy father run the most powerful country on Earth.." then yes, I can see how you would be with moonie. The truth and facts don't seem to bother either of you.

I know truth hurts, the guy can't even read off a teleprompter correctly, he's dumb.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: achiral
moonbeam i'm sure you've heard this before, but i really mean it. you are the stupidest person on the face of the earth.

Seriously, why do people continue to feed this troll? There is no point in responding, because if he even manages to make sense in a post, it comes off as arrogant and insulting. Not to mention the stubborn whininess...I could go on, but I have better things to do.
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam A question for you Frances. How did you come to know these things?

I processed the information I see to the best of my ability and make my conclusion.
I could be wrong. In fact, I often am. As a matter of fact, I ocasionally switch between opposing viewpoints
just to make sure I have all my bases covered. I would make a brilliant politician. :D

If someone disagrees with my view it probably isn't because they are incapable, brainwashed, or stupid.
It's probably because they aren't me and they've developed thier own perspective.

The only thing I am certain of is I will never be certain of anything.


 

jjones

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Originally posted by: Richdog
LOL I'm afraid the facts speak for themselves, it's just a shame that the average American is so out of touch with the rest odf the world that they'll believe whatever's thrown at them, hook line and sinker.
And Bushs' father was actually a little unstable.
Contrary to popular practice in the UK, most Americans don't believe the crap thrown at them from the tabloids. And where exactly do you get your information about Bush Sr. being unstable? Is this more tabloid innuendo or do you actually have something to back it up?

 

Richdog

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Hello jjones, I actually saw an American-made documentary where some senior US officials were commenting on the decisions Bush Sr. made and quoting him etc, and the general concensus was that he was a sandwich short of a picnic. And I don't actually read the tabloids so there you go... LOL and you have tabloids like Weekly World News, I read that once and nearly died! Anyone else read it?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I take it you have a problem with insignificance, jjones. You understand, don't you, that that is what's behind the reason you attack me this way?
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Originally posted by jjones

No, Moonie, I don't have a problem with insignificance. I kind of like it when insignificance and humility rules the day; the world is a much nicer place to live in. I do have a problem with pompous arrogance, of the type that would fill a hot air balloon, though. As for attacks, I'm just a simple-minded dunce incapable of attacking even an insignificant flea.
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Yes you do. You have a problem with knowledge also. You haven't figured out yet that everybody accuses everybody else of what they are, what, that is, they were taught to feel about themselves and hide in their unconscious. It's one of those things you can be certain about by self-observation. It is, in fact, a piece of knowledge required for the so called uncertainty and humility you laud but do not have. You can see, also in your remarks that your contempt for pompous arrogance is a part of your self assessment. As for being a simple-minded dunce, you are if you think your mock humility has rendered you incapable of significant attack. Without a little insight into this phenomenon you could really hurt my feelings. :D
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And here's etech attacking people for contrary views without proof of his own, just stating his opinions as if they were facts, no? I say potato and you say potato.
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maladroit:

Seriously, why do people continue to feed this troll? There is no point in responding, because if he even manages to make sense in a post, it comes off as arrogant and insulting. Not to mention the stubborn whininess...I could go on, but I have better things to do.
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I'll try to keep this simple, so you don't get lost:

Good question, one that you should be able to answer yourself. Why do you continue to feed me, as you put it? As to being arrogant and insulting, I answer insult with insult (if I do at all) so you can see, experience what you attempt to do to others. Everybody is an innocent lamb till they get gored by their own ox. Failing insight, since those who insult lack the manners to be polite, they can suffer whatever sting they feel.
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Frances:

I processed the information I see to the best of my ability and make my conclusion. (Why have a conclusion when you are uncertain. Why not live with ambiguity, humility and love?)

I could be wrong. In fact, I often am. As a matter of fact, I occasionally switch between opposing viewpoints just to make sure I have all my bases covered. I would make a brilliant politician. (Being good at the contemptible, eh? Nice. :D)

If someone disagrees with my view it probably isn't because they are incapable, brainwashed, or stupid.
It's probably because they aren't me and they've developed their own perspective. (But Frances, here's where you don't ring true. You see, you and me, we both know we don't know. It should be instantly obvious to you therefore, if you really are like me and know you do not know, that all those people who think they know but really don't, think they know because they have been brainwashed into thinking they know but. Please tell me how else they came by such delusions, eh? Now you just threw in that incapable or stupid part on your own. It's not how I feel at all. You have to love the ignorant and the wise because we are all the same. Doubtless you have been made to feel incapable and stupid.)

The only thing I am certain of is I will never be certain of anything. (Don't be so sure. When the love bug bites, you'll know.)
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To all:

We live in a world that has been demoralized and destroyed by put downs, by the put down as children. We have, as a consequence, become verbal knives, skilled in the execution of all around us with words. We dominate and subjugate with words and the intimidating hate we put into them.

When you meet somebody who answers your hate with kindness and love you murder them because that make you feel like sh!t by comparison. And when you meet somebody who withstands your most blistering attacks and reflects them back at you, you go insane. How arrogant of them. How dare they not succumb, surrender, yield. :D

A great difficulty in understanding how we are is in reflecting that knowledge to others. The truth about ourselves, because we are filled with defense mechanisms to ward off put downs is that the truth itself feels like one (put down). We are very very ugly in our hidden self loathing, and a mirror is a horror show. We hate the truth. It is insulting and arrogant, vile and contemptible. We have a need to crush it wherever it appears.

But the truth isn't how we feel about ourselves; that's just what we are sure it is. The real truth is that there is nothing wrong with anybody. We are all, deeply hidden within, the image of God.

For the world to survive, people are going to have to step up to the plate.