Another racist moron toasts any career prospects they might have had (Asa Blanton)

[uallas5]

I am thankfully a far different human being than the one I was when I was 18. I am thankful most of my friends have forgiven me for my transgressions of the past. I was a hard right winger when I was young. I am a left leaning after years of growing up and I hope the people can forgive me. People can change .

I always bring up George Wallace when discussing this point. Yes, "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever", that George Wallace. In the late 70's he had a "come to Jesus" moment. He realized that everything he had stood for was woefully wrong and spent the rest of his life speaking AGAINST segregation and FOR civil rights. When re-elected governor of Alabama in 1983, he "appointed a record number of black Americans to state positions,[84] including, for the first time, two as members in the cabinet."

George Wallace - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[akugami]

@uallas5

George Wallace, who I am not familiar with, seems to be someone who eventually changed. This is a man who is highly educated and exposed to so many different peoples and ideas. And it took him nearly a lifetime to change. It's good that he eventually changed for the better.

The problem is, most of these conservatives live in a closed off communities, where their biases are reinforced by the entire community. I've seen it over and over again. And I'm not limiting it to just bible thumpers. A lot of closed off communities are that way.

 

[feralkid]

I always bring up George Wallace when discussing this point. Yes, "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever", that George Wallace. In the late 70's he had a "come to Jesus" moment. He realized that everything he had stood for was woefully wrong and spent the rest of his life speaking AGAINST segregation and FOR civil rights. When re-elected governor of Alabama in 1983, he "appointed a record number of black Americans to state positions,[84] including, for the first time, two as members in the cabinet."

George Wallace - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I did not know that.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

George WallASS was the reason Lyndon Johnson called out US Troops to escort kids to school.

LBJ sends federal troops to Alabama to protect a civil rights march | March 20, 1965 | HISTORY

President Lyndon B. Johnson notifies Alabama’s Governor George Wallace that he will use federal authority to call up ...

www.history.com

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/press-past/2013/06/11/george-wallace-stood-in-a-doorway-at-the-university-of-alabama-50-years-ago-today

Kennedy had to do similar:

Kennedy federalized National Guard to integrate Alabama public schools (Sept. 10, 1963)

President John F. Kennedy SEPTEMBER 10, 1963 -- President John F. Kennedy federalized the 17,000 member Alabama National Guard to allow black students to attend nine previously all-white schools in Birmingham and across the state."Governor Wallace has refused to respect...

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His so called 'change'?

"Wallace announced that he no longer supported segregation and had always been a "moderate" on racial matters."

Otherwise worded as:

'I never supported all the bile I spewed over the years'.

WallASS was garbage through and through. Any change was a publicity stunt:


In what later U.S. President Jimmy Carter called "one of the most racist campaigns in modern southern political history", Wallace aired television advertising with slogans such as "Do you want the black bloc electing your governor?" and circulated an ad showing a white girl surrounded by seven black boys, with the slogan "Wake Up Alabama! Blacks vow to take over Alabama." Wallace slurred Brewer, whom he called "Sissy Britches", and his family. In the runoff, Wallace narrowly won the Democratic nomination and won the general election in a landslide.

Though Wallace had promised not to run for president a third time, the day after the election, he flew to Wisconsin to campaign for the upcoming 1972 United States presidential election. Wallace, whose presidential ambitions would have been destroyed by a defeat for governor, has been said to have run "one of the nastiest campaigns in state history", using racist rhetoric while proposing few new ideas.

George Wallace - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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[pmv]

He's the guy who, indirectly and unintentionally, almost managed to destroy the electoral college, no?

 

[Drach]

He's the guy who, indirectly and unintentionally, almost managed to

Destroy the electoral college, YES.
The electoral college was based on slavery. The only people it protects today is white nazi's.
As a white man can we be done with this archaic system?

 

[Greenman]

Destroy the electoral college, YES.
The electoral college was based on slavery. The only people it protects today is white nazi's.
As a white man can we be done with this archaic system?

Not the way I learned it. The short answer (as I was taught) is that the states elect the president, not the people. Each state has the same representation as it does in congress.

 

[HomerJS]

Not the way I learned it. The short answer (as I was taught) is that the states elect the president, not the people. Each state has the same representation as it does in congress.

Does that take into account political/racist gerrymandering?

I submit to you that changes the equation. Otherwise we would have Roe legal in all 50 states.

 

[pmv]

Not the way I learned it. The short answer (as I was taught) is that the states elect the president, not the people. Each state has the same representation as it does in congress.

Pretty sure this has been debated repeatedly. To me it seems an utterly absurd system, just beyond stupid, but didn't mean to start going over the same ground again.

My only point was that Wallace was inadvertently the trigger for the closest effort there's been to end it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/12/04/abolish-electoral-college-george-wallace-trump-bayh/

 

[Greenman]

Does that take into account political/racist gerrymandering?

I submit to you that changes the equation. Otherwise we would have Roe legal in all 50 states.

Abortion is now up to the individual states. The voters of those states can change the laws if they so desire.

 

[brycejones]

Abortion is now up to the individual states. The voters of those states can change the laws if they so desire.

Yes because basic human rights like body autonomy should depend on what state you live in.

 

[Drach]

And California picks up the bill caring for shitty red states. I'm fine paying the bill.
We literally provide transportation and give services to women because their shitty states don't give a fuck about them.
Sorry, they don't care until the child is born then they don't give a fuck.

 

[HomerJS]

Abortion is now up to the individual states. The voters of those states can change the laws if they so desire.

While rigged supermajorities of Republicans sparing no effort to sabotage those efforts.

Great system you are defending

 

[Greenman]

While rigged supermajorities of Republicans sparing no effort to sabotage those efforts.

Great system you are defending

It is a great system, and I consider myself lucky to have been born in this time and this place.

 

[Drach]

It is a great system, and I consider myself lucky to have been born in this time and this place.

What an asshole you are. Congratulations.

 

[Greenman]

What an asshole you are. Congratulations.

Your little felling's are hurt because I disagree with your political beliefs, so you resort to the last refuge of the beta male.

 

[Drach]

Your little felling's are hurt because I disagree with your political beliefs, so you resort to the last refuge of the beta male.

Your opinions are important to me. ty

 

[Drach]

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[Greenman]

Your opinions are important to me. ty

Clearly my opinions are important enough for you to read them. I recommend you push the ignore button to avoid future hurt feelings.

 

[Drach]

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[fskimospy]

Not the way I learned it. The short answer (as I was taught) is that the states elect the president, not the people. Each state has the same representation as it does in congress.

Sadly it looks like your school did you a disservice. The primary purpose of the electoral college was the protection of slavery and slave states explicitly vetoed attempts at the founding to directly elect the president. Instead, slave states supported the electoral college because it allowed them to apply the additional representation for enslaved people from the 3/5ths compromise over to the office of the president.

This isn't particularly novel or controversial - James Madison said as much at the time.

 

[thilanliyan]

It is a great system, and I consider myself lucky to have been born in this time and this place.

A great system where the majority are held hostage by the few, due to the way the system was set up in the first place (to protect slavery)...great system from your view I guess since you're in that minority.

 

[Greenman]

A great system where the majority are held hostage by the few, due to the way the system was set up in the first place (to protect slavery)...great system from your view I guess since you're in that minority.

If by "that minority" you mean a fellow that started out with nothing and no higher education, built a business, supported his family, treated his employees well, and never took advantage of others, then yup, I'm a card carrying member.

 

[Greenman]

Sadly it looks like your school did you a disservice. The primary purpose of the electoral college was the protection of slavery and slave states explicitly vetoed attempts at the founding to directly elect the president. Instead, slave states supported the electoral college because it allowed them to apply the additional representation for enslaved people from the 3/5ths compromise over to the office of the president.

This isn't particularly novel or controversial - James Madison said as much at the time.

And for all of that, it still works well. The states can distribute their votes as they see fit, either split or winner take all. This gives smaller states a voice they otherwise wouldn't have. That said, we've only elected five presidents that didn't win the popular vote.

 

[HomerJS]

It is a great system, and I consider myself lucky to have been born in this time and this place.

Looking like one of those pasty white guys who screw minorities like me out of political power with racist gerrymandering(courts said not me), I understand your happiness.