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Another PS3 downer
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This isnt a big deal... Its 20% yield for perfect chips, who knows what the number of chips with 7 or more is, could be 90%, and since thats what the PS3 was designed to operate with, there really is no problem at all.
And to jump on them for saying that one could blow at any time is like not buying a car because a bolt or control arm could break... Of course the potential is there... what retarded person would say their product is impervious to damage.
Queasy
Moderator<br>Console Gaming
It is a problem if it affects Sony's ability to deliver PS3s on time for launch. They already are going to be in short supply. News of this and problems of producing the diode for Blu-Ray's blue laser does not give one much confidence in the supply of PS3s. I'm betting it will be just as bad and more than likely worse than the 360 launch.
darkswordsman17
Lifer
Uh, check your facts. Nintendo themselves have said they'll be selling the Wii at a loss, which I find absurd since it should cost less than a Gamecube due to manufacturing process improvements, but whatever.
middlehead
Diamond Member
No, Nintendo makes a point to profit on all aspects of the business. That's part of why they're not chasing down the latest, greatest, obsolete-in-3-months-anyway hardware. They're taking a solid architecture and letting developers focus on gameplay.
I will still buy one, no matter what anyone says, and no matter what the specs of the PS3 turns out to be. The simple fact is that Sony Playstation has the best games in my opinion because of japanese game developers so as long as they are still programming for Sony's platforms Ill be playing on Sony's platforms.
UNCjigga
Lifer
Why'd console-makers have to get all complicated with proprietary chips??? Seriously, Microsoft should have followed their original formula with Xbox--just build a small, cheap, silent PC with maybe a proprietary high-speed bus and I/O interface and a kickass gfx card. Someone should make a console with a Core 2 Duo and GeForce 7900/Radeon 1900 just to mock the industry.
Queasy
Moderator<br>Console Gaming
I consider the MS response to be mandatory from a PR/business perspective. You don't confirm a price drop 8 months from the day you do a price drop. Nobody would buy your console then. If there is a price drop, I'm betting it will be announced late October after the Wii comes out and before the PS3 is launched.
PricklyPete
Lifer
What? Microsoft did do exactly what they did before...took what are essentially off the shelf components (design work was already there from IBM, ATI, etc) and put it together in a nice package and sold it at a loss. This is exactly what they did with the original Xbox. Sony on the other hand decided to place some internal, proprietary technology (Cell, Blue-Ray) in there machines.
Maybe if Core 2 Duo were available at the time, MS would have gone with it. They went with ATI's top designs at the time.
Queasy
Moderator<br>Console Gaming
And as a result, MS could never make any money on the console because they owned almost none of the property rights and couldn't take advantage of efficiencies overtime.
The 3-core IBM chip for the 360 is exotic but nowhere near as exotic as the Cell for the PS3. MS owns all the rights this time so they'll be able to take advantage of reductions in costs. They're already talking about moving to a smaller die for 2007.
PricklyPete
Lifer
The 3-Core chip really isn't that exotic. It is a barely specialized version of a current IBM chip platform. So they basically took an off the shelf processor, modified it a bit, and got IBM to produce it with MS holding the rights.
The only big difference (as Quesay pointed out) between this go around the Xbox and the last go around for the Xbox was that MS now holds to the rights to IP, so they are not buying finished chips, but are actually contracting the production themselves so that they can take advantage of lower manufacturing costs over time.
darkswordsman17
Lifer
Nearly every game site reported on it. A quick Google shows it was originally a Reuters article that isn't viewable anymore.
purbeast0
No Lifer
Ah okay my bad then, I was with Randay as well. I just did not remember them stating that and thought I remember them saying they won't be taking a loss. But every system they've put on the market thus far has gave them a profit in every sale if I remember correctly, which is also why when reading over the articles it just flew over my head heh.
shortylickens
No Lifer
I'm glad a few people came in and defended me. I hate getting into pissing contests.
I know that Nintendo has made money on their systems so far.
My understanding was that with the new one (wii) they would take a small loss.
I know that Nintendo has made money on their systems so far.
My understanding was that with the new one (wii) they would take a small loss.
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