Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: rivan
YAJPIHCT!
(Yet another jpeyton I hate cops thread!)
They're not infallible. Neither is the system within which they operate. I'm curious how you'd propose to "fix" what you see as broken.
lets see:
hold them accountable
not charge someone who is defending there home and protocting loved ones.
repair any damage done
apologize
make sure they have the correct fucking place?
just a few off the top of my head
Be careful, that's WAY too many reasonable responses. Rivan can't handle his precious cops being corrected that many different ways at once, it'll make his brain explode.
My precious cops? Look, I do very often come to the defense of cops on these boards, but make no mistake - I want them held accountable when they make mistakes or intentionally abuse the authority granted their position.
Instead of trying to insult me or my intellect, why don't you answer my questions? Until then, kindly piss off.
Waggy -
As it relates to this case, who should be held accountable, and how so? The SWAT team that had no part in investigating the search warrant? The detective/department who applied for the warrant? The judge who signed the warrant?
There should be accountability here, I just want it to end up on the right set of shoulders.
The SWAT team was doing their job - serving a no-knock warrant on a drug house. They didn't do ANY of the investigation. They also (are supposed to) yell who they are when entering. There's a cop saying there were drugs sold from the residence. Serving a warrant on a (as far as the SWAT knew) drug house with lollipops doesn't work very well.
The detective that signed the affadavit of drug sales may have lied. Maybe he didn't.
The judge was weighing the sworn word of the detective and the property/owner's prior problems with the law when he signed the warrant.
not charge someone who is defending there home and protocting loved ones.
Agreed. If he's really the upright citizen that INCREDIBLY slanted article is making him out to be. Given the first few paragraphs of descriptions, this is a pretty rough dude; on house arrest, DWIs, an allegedly stolen car.
None of that adds up to him giving up any of his rights, but neither does it put cops in a position of thinking that, if there are drugs being sold there, it would be a good idea to call before stopping by.
repair any damage done
apologize
Agreed, if he's cleared of any wrongdoing on the initial cause for the warrant.
make sure they have the correct fucking place?
Who? The SWAT team
had exactly the place on the warrant. They showed up, they did their job, and in hindsight it's a cluster - but I don't see how it's the SWAT team's fault at all.