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Another mass shooting. 8 dead in Indianapolis

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Stokely said:
So what should a President do then if they make such a difference?

I hate guns, I think our obsession with them is lunacy--but I also see trying to do anything resembling "gun control" will just cause you to lose elections. We have many other problems that can be tackled and I'd argue are more important.

But hey if politicians can manage to do it in the face of our collective idiocy and not get primaried, all good. I just think some fights can't be won but I'll be very happy to be wrong about it.
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I actually want to apologize. I quickly read your message and responded as I was about to leave for work. I completely misunderstood what you where saying. Sorry.
 
This incident again brings up the issue of how you handle a young adult male who lives with you, the parent, and has known mental issues and may do something like this. We talk about improving mental health support but how do you handle this type of issue.
 
Lanyap said:
This incident again brings up the issue of how you handle a young adult male who lives with you, the parent, and has known mental issues and may do something like this. We talk about improving mental health support but how do you handle this type of issue.
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First, get the guns out of the house.

A family in my town had a mentally ill son and kept guns, and they all paid for it with their lives. He killed both parents and his sibling. Parents knew he was nuts, yet kept guns in the house, that he often carried around.
 
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Zorba said:
First, get the guns out of the house.

A family in my town had a mentally ill son and kept guns, and they all paid for it with their lives. He killed both parents and his sibling. Parents knew he was nuts, yet kept guns in the house, that he often carried around.
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Yup, guns and mental instability are a terrible combination. Personally, I think guns and anybody is a bad mix.
 
I thought there was a general stickied thread on mass shooting events but didn't see it.

There was another smaller shooting in Kenosha county, SE WI late last night or early this morning, 3 dead and at least 2 in the hospital, shooter still at large last I looked.

apnews.com

Suspect apprehended in fatal shooting at Wisconsin tavern

KENOSHA, Wis. (AP) — Authorities say they have apprehended a person in connection with a shooting at a busy tavern in southeastern Wisconsin early Sunday that left three men dead and three men injured.
apnews.com apnews.com
 
Pohemi420 said:
I thought there was a general stickied thread on mass shooting events but didn't see it.
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Not stickied, but ...

Nothing Ever Changes But The Dates And The Locations

Somewhere in America, the news is about to break. Nothing can prepare you for the toll it's about to take. -The Alternate Routes Two weeks ago, Atlanta, GA Last week, Boulder, CO Now, Orange, CA https://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-shooting-idUSKBN2BO43I Next?
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Anyone else getting...numb to this stuff?

I remember when something like this would have generated kind of a stunned astonishment...nowadays..."Oh? ANOTHER shooting? Gee...too bad. What's on TV?"

We were living in western Wyoming when this happened:

Cokeville Elementary School Bombing | WyoHistory.org

On May 16, 1986, David and Doris Young took 154 people hostage at the Cokeville Elementary School in tiny Cokeville, Wyo. and detonated a bomb inside. The Youngs both died that day. Everyone else survived, and many who did recalled the tragedy with memories of the presence of angels.
www.wyohistory.org www.wyohistory.org

The only people killed was the bomber and his wife...who accidentally detonated the gasoline bomb she held the trigger for...and her husband shot and killed her before killing himself.

That was the first one even similar that I remember....then Waco and Ruby Ridge...then a few years later, Columbine...and it's gone downhill ever since.
 
NWRMidnight said:
I actually want to apologize. I quickly read your message and responded as I was about to leave for work. I completely misunderstood what you where saying. Sorry.
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No worries!


Probably says more about my incoherent posting ability than anything 🙂
 
BoomerD said:
Anyone else getting...numb to this stuff?

I remember when something like this would have generated kind of a stunned astonishment...nowadays..."Oh? ANOTHER shooting? Gee...too bad. What's on TV?"

We were living in western Wyoming when this happened:

Cokeville Elementary School Bombing | WyoHistory.org

On May 16, 1986, David and Doris Young took 154 people hostage at the Cokeville Elementary School in tiny Cokeville, Wyo. and detonated a bomb inside. The Youngs both died that day. Everyone else survived, and many who did recalled the tragedy with memories of the presence of angels.
www.wyohistory.org www.wyohistory.org

The only people killed was the bomber and his wife...who accidentally detonated the gasoline bomb she held the trigger for...and her husband shot and killed her before killing himself.

That was the first one even similar that I remember....then Waco and Ruby Ridge...then a few years later, Columbine...and it's gone downhill ever since.
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Yes. It's probably like when cars started getting bigger and faster and more common...probably every accident caused major shock and disbelief. Now we know deaths in accidents is the cost of our reliance on automobiles; we all have likely narrowly avoided death at least once from someone running a red light etc....and if it happened, it would be sad but in no way surprising.

Our culture such as it is has an addiction to guns and combined with the fact that humans are still emotional unstable animals (even those without severe mental illnesses) it simply means that people are going to die from guns. 400 million guns in the hands of American humans? It's only surprising that more of us aren't dying IMO.
 
ch33zw1z said:
Oh well, nothing we could do. It's his right to own murder tools.
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They could have prevented him getting those ARs if they'd put him through the evaluation process according to the red flag laws in Indiana. Those laws are evidently way to lax and they're talking about tightening them up. As we know, talk is cheap, especially when it comes to keeping guns out of people's hands. Many extremely wealthy (INFLUENCIAL) people fear one thing more than anything else: the citizenry coming to their senses.
 
Muse said:
They could have prevented him getting those ARs if they'd put him through the evaluation process according to the red flag laws in Indiana. Those laws are evidently way to lax and they're talking about tightening them up. As we know, talk is cheap, especially when it comes to keeping guns out of people's hands. Many extremely wealthy (INFLUENCIAL) people fear one thing more than anything else: the citizenry coming to their senses.
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*Gasp* Muh rites!!!

https://imgur.com/9L1rA2i
 
BoomerD said:
Anyone else getting...numb to this stuff?

I remember when something like this would have generated kind of a stunned astonishment...nowadays..."Oh? ANOTHER shooting? Gee...too bad. What's on TV?"

We were living in western Wyoming when this happened:

Cokeville Elementary School Bombing | WyoHistory.org

On May 16, 1986, David and Doris Young took 154 people hostage at the Cokeville Elementary School in tiny Cokeville, Wyo. and detonated a bomb inside. The Youngs both died that day. Everyone else survived, and many who did recalled the tragedy with memories of the presence of angels.
www.wyohistory.org www.wyohistory.org

The only people killed was the bomber and his wife...who accidentally detonated the gasoline bomb she held the trigger for...and her husband shot and killed her before killing himself.

That was the first one even similar that I remember....then Waco and Ruby Ridge...then a few years later, Columbine...and it's gone downhill ever since.
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This stuff for me goes all the way back to the Texas clocktower mass shooting. Of course, JFK, Martin Luther King, and RFK were also all killed in my youthful experience. Saw my first live shooting death on national TV when Ruby showdown Oswald. Nothing ever changes!!!!!!!! Can't wait for another murder in public dished out on TV.
 
BoomerD said:
Anyone else getting...numb to this stuff?

I remember when something like this would have generated kind of a stunned astonishment...nowadays..."Oh? ANOTHER shooting? Gee...too bad. What's on TV?"

We were living in western Wyoming when this happened:

Cokeville Elementary School Bombing | WyoHistory.org

On May 16, 1986, David and Doris Young took 154 people hostage at the Cokeville Elementary School in tiny Cokeville, Wyo. and detonated a bomb inside. The Youngs both died that day. Everyone else survived, and many who did recalled the tragedy with memories of the presence of angels.
www.wyohistory.org www.wyohistory.org

The only people killed was the bomber and his wife...who accidentally detonated the gasoline bomb she held the trigger for...and her husband shot and killed her before killing himself.

That was the first one even similar that I remember....then Waco and Ruby Ridge...then a few years later, Columbine...and it's gone downhill ever since.
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That one reminds me a bit of the Bath school massacre from the 1920's. Given all the school shootings we've had since - Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, Parkland - I'm surprised no one has yet surpassed the death toll of that one.
 
IMO the Columbine shootings were the watershed moment in America. Those two kids were going, "top this!!!" Ever since it's been a contest. Winner so far is that guy in Vegas.
 
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