Another expensive box on eBay

[Stifko]

And this guy is neither.

huh? You think this kind of auction is okay? Like buyer beware, eh? IMHO that auction is misleading.

 

[exp]

<< Hummm I have a hard time believing the BOX is made by visiontech.
Wouldn't that give the "winner" an out on paying for it? >>


Yeah, that is the kicker. By claiming the box is made by Visiontek he crosses the line IMO from "devious yet legal" to intentionally lying about the nature of his merchandise. That is illegal.

Unless of course, the box actually *is* made by Visiontek, in which case I stand corrected.

 

[Danman]

<< Good going John, yeah John expose that mofo.

The only thing worse than a deadbeat bidder is a dirtbagg seller, IMHO. >>




word.

 

[halik]

well i dont think its that bad, i mean the word BOX is in both the title and the ad. I would say its bit misleading but nowhere near the xbox scams that popped up on ebay. Any sane person can read the add and see that hes selling a box. Also the seller doesnt mention anything else (card, specs anyhting) about the card that people aparently expect to go with it

 

[Doomguy]

John, why did you e-mail the bidder? Let me learn his lesson to read everything.

Imagine the same guy getting an insurance policy, a loan, etc. What makes you think he'd read the fine print if he bids on a BOX? Geez.

Let the people learn their lesson.

 

[Hossenfeffer]

John, thanks for giving the guy a heads-up. Helps educate the folks all around about what sort of shady tactics are being used on 'em.


<< What did you warn him about? That he is an idiot? Why don't you quit ruining people's auctions when they aren't doing anything wrong? >>

Yeah, how dare John stop somebody from making a very expensive mistake and putting a healthy chunk of change into some assmunch punk's pocket.

It's reasonable to say that many folks who see the auction won't catch the fact that it's just a box. It's a mistake, and nobody needs to take advantage of the situation.

As for the poor soul that gets stuck with this box, I hope the "made by Visiontex" defense is sufficient.

 

[tm37]

<< John, why did you e-mail the bidder? Let me learn his lesson to read everything.

Imagine the same guy getting an insurance policy, a loan, etc. What makes you think he'd read the fine print if he bids on a BOX? Geez.

Let the people learn their lesson. >>



Normally I would agree with you but this one seems to get WAY TOO CLOSE to that fine line that gets crossed.

 

[yakko]

<< And this guy is neither.

huh? You think this kind of auction is okay? Like buyer beware, eh? IMHO that auction is misleading. >>

How is it misleading? It says it is a box in two different places and there is not a bunch of text surrounding it to cover it up.

 

[yakko]

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<< Good going John, yeah John expose that mofo.

The only thing worse than a deadbeat bidder is a dirtbagg seller, IMHO. >>

And this guy is neither. >>

Yea, whatever yakko, like the guy doesn't know he is being deceptive. If he does that constitutes it being illigal. What do you have to refute that. I'm sure you will think of something witty to say, which won't change the fact that this guy is trying to get people to buy his box knowing full well that they believe there is something inside the box, which like I said, is illigal. >>

If someone believes there is something in that box then they are morons. Nowhere in that title or description does it say anything about being more than just a box. He does not have a lot of confusing, misleading or excessive text. If you choose to read more into his simple description it is not his fault. The seller is not being deceptive.

 

[Hossenfeffer]

<< The seller is not being deceptive. >>



He's selling the box to a video card he bought. Who the hell does that?

 

[boyRacer]

Ok i think this is gonna one big hassle.

 

[boyRacer]

Wow... look at that... $14,000!!!... hmmm... how much eBay fees would that amount too? Hahaha... i think this is gonna one big mess.

 

[Jhill]

Is it me or is this at 14,100?

 

[boyRacer]

I think theyre gonna screw this guy up... obviously there is no way they're paying $14,000 for that box... and there is no way the seller is gonna pay the eBay fee this would amount to... hahahaha...

 

[csiro]

Looks like the seller removed some of the high bids...

 

[Lars]

I hate those box resellers. :|

 

[Thegonagle]

<< Looks like the seller removed some of the high bids... >>


Good!

John, I think you did the right thing.

Yes, it is entertaining to see idiots bid hundreds of dollars for a couple square foot or two of cardboard, but the seller does not deserve to profit from this.

 

[b0mbrman]

Buyer beware...btw, the box was made in some box factory, not by the electronics company...

 

[Hossenfeffer]

One "high" bidder down. drwilson311 next.

 

[spanky]

haha... check out the one dude who retracted his bid saying "i already bought the xbox box"

 

[Maetryx]

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<< Good going John, yeah John expose that mofo.

The only thing worse than a deadbeat bidder is a dirtbagg seller, IMHO.

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And this guy is neither. >>

Yakko, you are being disengenuous i.e. less than genuine. You can't think that the seller is honorable. Perhaps he is within the letter of the law as far as the ebay user agreement, but he is outside of contract law, which states that their must be a meeting of the minds for a contract to be binding. The seller and the buyer must have the same transaction in mind. If they don't, the contract is not binding.

 

[John]

The seller emailed me back:

It isnt a scan attempt. It is clearly stated that it is a box. I made no
reserve or buy it now features and I started it at 1 $. Notify them if you
must but it isnt a scam....

He is right, it isn't a scam, but a very misleading auction IMHO. I was only trying to help out the poor souls that don't know any better. The internet can be a dangerous place, and I consider my actions justified in this instance. As we can clearly see, there will be a few people, like yakko, that don't understand the ethics of being a good trader.

 

[veryape]

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<< Good going John, yeah John expose that mofo.

The only thing worse than a deadbeat bidder is a dirtbagg seller, IMHO.

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And this guy is neither. >>

Yakko, you are being disengenuous i.e. less than genuine. You can't think that the seller is honorable. Perhaps he is within the letter of the law as far as the ebay user agreement, but he is outside of contract law, which states that their must be a meeting of the minds for a contract to be binding. The seller and the buyer must have the same transaction in mind. If they don't, the contract is not binding. >>

That's what I was getting at. It seems some people think that just because he stated that it's a box means he's not being deceptive. So, with that logic, would it be okay if I sold you a car on the internet, and it was a matchbox car? That would be okay?

For sale: One 2001 Dodge Viper, only miles on it are the shipping miles. This thing is puff!!! Brand new paint, new tires, new everything practically. I haven't even really had a chance to drive it. Only problem is it s a small. dent in it. Highest bidder get's it.

 

[MooseKnuckle]

E$bay removed the item.

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Maybe yakko is the seller.

John was only clearing up the auction. He was making sure that the buyer understood clearly what was said, if the box is that valuable, shouldnt it be worth the amount the seller is trying to sell it for?