Another bow by OBowma

[Jaskalas]

Clinton almost bowed and the NYT gave him a tongue lashing.

^This is what makes the thread both relevant and historic. We've apparently never before had a President bowing to others, and even the slightest hint of it sparked scandal just a decade ago.

Now President Obama goes and makes it common practice.

 

[Infohawk]

Could be worse

LOL.

I'd be fine if the US President refused to visit non-democratic countries and refused to meet any royalty, but comon, that's not practical. It's really meaningless.

 

[fskimospy]

Thanks for the laugh. While I laugh at this, the Japanese Emperor and Saudi King are laughing at Obama for beaing inferior.

Yes, I'm sure you're totally right. *sigh*

All this crazy Obama hate is not healthy. When you find yourself becoming outraged by the method by which he greets foreign leaders, this is the point at which you're going to want to step away from the computer and hug your wife, kids, whoever, because your grip is slipping a bit.

I mean I expect this sort of thing out of CAD, but you don't have to follow him off the cliff.

 

[Red Dawn]

Are you that naive?

Nope but obviously you are.

 

[MotF Bane]

It wasn't a bow, he's just dropped his integrity and he was looking for it.

lol

 

[nageov3t]

You used to be more intelligent than this. Or less bitter.

if not bowing has been the official state department policy for 200 years as mentioned in that 1994 NYT article, it seems fair to question why Obama decided to change it?

as a side-note, I'd also be curious to see if there's anything on the books about holding hands while strolling through the park with other world leaders.

 

[Red Dawn]

if not bowing has been the official state department policy for 200 years as mentioned in that 1994 NYT article, it seems fair to question why Obama decided to change it?

as a side-note, I'd also be curious to see if there's anything on the books about holding hands while strolling through the park with other world leaders.

The Ancient Greeks use to do it all the time...oh wait

 

[Adrenaline]

And you know these cultures so well because....? Frankly I think you are the idiot here.

Wow, you truly are retarded. I may have found my first person to ignore because you have zero intelligence.

 

[Adrenaline]

Yes, I'm sure you're totally right. *sigh*

All this crazy Obama hate is not healthy. When you find yourself becoming outraged by the method by which he greets foreign leaders, this is the point at which you're going to want to step away from the computer and hug your wife, kids, whoever, because your grip is slipping a bit.

I mean I expect this sort of thing out of CAD, but you don't have to follow him off the cliff.

To bow and see eye to eye with someone is one thing (Oh wait thats what the democrats tried stating when Obama was busted bowing to the Saudi King) but bowing low is another thing entirely.

 

[Red Dawn]

Wow, you truly are retarded. I may have found my first person to ignore because you have zero intelligence.

Why because I'm not a hysterical little bitch like you who has to make things up to justify your comments?That's not intelligence boy, that's foolishness.

 

[Bowfinger]

Wow are you guys getting desperate. I mean stop and think for a minute... you just made a thread about how scandalous the method that our president used to greet a foreign leader was.

A photo of this thread will likely be posted next to the definition of 'grasping at straws'.

Nah. Let the lunatic fringe obediently shriek their mock outrage, just as they're told to do. It only further marginalizes them. With any luck at all, this will hasten their fall into total irrelevance in favor of intelligent and thoughtful conservatives who can return the Republican party to something worth supporting.

 

[Adrenaline]

Why because I'm not a hysterical little bitch like you who has to make things up to justify your comments?That's not intelligence boy, that's foolishness.

My reply acting like you:

How the fuck does a dipshit like you that throws out nonstop slander become an administrator around here? You are a stupid piece of shit that resorts to this kind of ignorance around here and causes threads to become useless because you can't do shit without calling people names nonstop acting like a big badass around here. You are a complete fucking moron.

I hope you ejoyed it now fuck off, you ignorant non coherent piece of shit.

Red Dawn is not posting here as an Administrator, and your post is exactly why we have a rule about calling out Moderator/Administrator status in discussions. Please do not do it again. As well, if you cannot take the heat in Politics & News, you may want to stay away.

- bamacre (Forum Director)

 

[nageov3t]

Nah. Let the lunatic fringe obediently shriek their mock outrage, just as they're told to do. It only further marginalizes them. With any luck at all, this will hasten their fall into total irrelevance in favor of intelligent and thoughtful conservatives who can return the Republican party to something worth supporting.

it doesn't seem question-worthy to you at all that Obama would decide to change 200+ years of state department policy?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Nah. Let the lunatic fringe obediently shriek their mock outrage, just as they're told to do. It only further marginalizes them. With any luck at all, this will hasten their fall into total irrelevance in favor of intelligent and thoughtful conservatives who can return the Republican party to something worth supporting.

"mock outrage"? lol

apologist count +1

 

[Adrenaline]

it doesn't seem question-worthy to you at all that Obama would decide to change 200+ years of state department policy?

Bow to see eye to eye would be fine as he is taller. Do not low bow to someone, let alone anyone, when you are the President of the United States.

I am all for him being diplomatic and having good relationships with other countries. Just don't do things that others will even get the idea of him being inferior.

 

[fskimospy]

To bow and see eye to eye with someone is one thing (Oh wait thats what the democrats tried stating when Obama was busted bowing to the Saudi King) but bowing low is another thing entirely.

Please specifically list the policies/trade agreements/US interests overseas or at home that you think will be damaged by the method in which Obama greeted someone.

This is both crazy and pathetic. That's what I mean when I say this entire thread reeks of desperation.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

My reply acting like you:

How the fuck does a dipshit like you that throws out nonstop slander become an administrator around here? You are a stupid piece of shit that resorts to this kind of ignorance around here and causes threads to become useless because you can't do shit without calling people names nonstop acting like a big badass around here. You are a complete fucking moron.

I hope you ejoyed it now fuck off, you ignorant non coherent piece of shit.

Don't pay much attention to RD - he likes playing an E-badass now that he's old.

 

[fskimospy]

"mock outrage"? lol

apologist count +1

I'm not sure you understand what an 'apologist' is. Nowhere in his post did he apologize for anything, he just called you nutcases stupid.

 

[Red Dawn]

My reply acting like you:

How the fuck does a dipshit like you that throws out nonstop slander become an administrator around here?

Because I'm fair. For instance I'm not going to sanction you for the call out

You are a stupid piece of shit that resorts to this kind of ignorance around here and causes threads to become useless because you can't do shit without calling people names nonstop acting like a big badass around here. You are a complete fucking moron.

I hope you ejoyed it now fuck off, you ignorant non coherent piece of shit.

Feel better? LOL... Now answer my question!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I'm not sure you understand what an 'apologist' is. Nowhere in his post did he apologize for anything, he just called you nutcases stupid.

Yeah, I guess dismissing this as "mock outrage" isn't being an apologist at all....to an apologist like you.

 

[Red Dawn]

Don't pay much attention to RD - he likes playing an E-badass now that he's old.

What do you mean now? I've always been old:twisted:

 

[Red Dawn]

I'm not sure you understand what an 'apologist' is. Nowhere in his post did he apologize for anything, he just called you nutcases stupid.

They aren't stupid, they are hysterical.

 

[Carmen813]

This thread earns the coveted "Carmen's facepalm thread of the day" award for November 14th, 2009. I deem it so and so it is deemed.

 

[Adrenaline]

Feel better? LOL... Now answer my question!

Bowing to see eye to eye is acceptable. I have stated that. It is a sign of respect.

Bowing much lower (sadly in both cases) is seen as a sign of being inferior. Why? The King and Emperor do NOT bow below anyone. They are perceived as being the highest ranked people in their countries and as thus will not bow that low. They most likely feel their country is the best in the world and thus would not insult their country (any homer should).

From the video of the Saudi King I saw, the King did not bow anywhere near as low as Obama. With the Japanese Emperor it may be harder to tell as he is short but in the picture he made a friendly gesture bow, but did not bow anywhere near the same as Obama.

They bow, whereas we salute in this country moreso. Same principle almost. The subordinate starts a salute, a superior starts and finishes the salute then the subordinate finishes his salute. A little different then the Eastern ways but the way it is done never changes.

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah, I guess dismissing this as "mock outrage" isn't being an apologist at all....to an apologist like you.

No it isn't, he's calling you stupid not attempting to excuse Obama's behavior. The definition of 'apologist' is 'someone who argues in the defense or justification of something'. Nowhere in his post did he defend or justify Obama's behavior, he just said you were insane and dishonest.

You would think for a guy who spent as much time arguing about definitions as you do, that you would be better at looking them up.