Another Beheading

[phillyTIM]

*violin*

 

[Dangermouse33]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
I hate to say this, but I hope the militants let loose all this fallout that the Bush Regime's fraudulent war has wraught and taints the Public's view just right to cost Bush the election.

The blood of the beheadings are on Bush's hands, for what he and his Regime had perputrated in this sham of an invasion. Let this holy terror reign and take down Bush!

Stupid dickwad. Maybe you should go to iraq and let the militants let loose on You - you know, just to prove your point.

 

[OCNewbie]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealotWhen McVeigh bombed OK, did we rush to generalize all Christians as such?

No, because he did not use his religion as a basis for the attacks. And he did not focus on killing people different than his religion. I think he killed because he didn't like the US government. It's why he targeted a government building (I believe it was anyway).

When Hitler killed 12 million "others" in the name of eugenics and Christianity, did we generalize his actions to the whole of Christainity.

Again, no, it was because it was his personal ideals. He didn't claim to be acting out the will of his God. And he wasn't doing it for religion was he? (unsure) Wasn't he doing it because he thought Jews were inferior as a race, and not because of their religion?

However, when a single group of "muslims" commit atrocities, we are quick to generalize their actions as being representative of the group as a whole, and condemning a religion to barbarism.

Because these "atrocities" seem to have enormous support in the Muslim world. And any religion that condones painful beheadings would by definition be barbaric would it not? Doesn't the Quran mention beheadings of infidels, or non-believers? If the very book of the religion condones it, then how can you not tie the act with the religion the book is based on?

Btw, I was raised Christian, but consider myself agnostic and doubt that'll ever change, so this is not coming from another religiously biased standpoint. But I am biased when it comes to the treatment of a living, breathing human-being no matter what background he or she may have.

 

[HoshyFroshy]

Something that's quite interesting about some of the posts here is that we've brought up mass exterminations in Hitler's concentration camps, among other things. Hitler, for whatever his reasons were, was trying to rid the earth of a certain type of human different from himself. Sound familiar to some of us? "Let's nuke the bastards" or "They need to be wiped off the planet" are cries of the same types of mass murderers.

I certainly don't condone the actions of these militants. However, it's interesting (and frightening) to see people who are, I'm guessing, quite similar to me as far as nationality, religion, race, etc. falling into the same category of genocidal maniac as Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, and many others. When looked at in this point of view, can those of you who feel like we should wipe out the extremists see how similar you are, in fact, with the very humans you wish to exterminate?

Whatever the reason for genocide, whether it's to "rid the earth of infidels" or that "islam and its followers are the ones that must be purged from the earth," it's still bland generalization and murder. I'm not sure what the answer is; if I knew the answer, I wouldn't be posting it here, I'd be phoning the white house to enlighten them. But I do know that nuking them would put us on the list right by Hitler, and if you support that idea, you're no better than him.

 

[HoshyFroshy]

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Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
people like you make me wanna blow myself up in a crowded subway
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one more thing...

Omar, while you made some good points earlier, it was an unwise decision to post this. It pretty much disarms your previous arguments, and I wouldn't be surprised if you drew some unwanted attention. Either way, if you decide to go ahead with this plan, I'd rather you did it in an open field and took out just yourself.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: glugglug
So are the special effects in this one at least more realistic than the Nick Berg video?

I'm not much for conspiracies, but if anything, this one made me doubt the Nick Berg one.
This looked and sounded very real to me, while by contrast, the Nick Berg one lacked many things I'd expect from someone getting beheaded, most notably screaming and gushing blood.

 

[phillyTIM]

Originally posted by: Dangermouse33
Stupid dickwad. Maybe you should go to iraq and let the militants let loose on You - you know, just to prove your point.

I have no problem at all serving America and going over there to become one with the Earth, if it will take down Bush & his Regime and save our Country from the evil that currently runs it.

to Dangermouse

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM

Originally posted by: Dangermouse33
Stupid dickwad. Maybe you should go to iraq and let the militants let loose on You - you know, just to prove your point.

I have no problem at all serving America and going over there to become one with the Earth, if it will take down Bush & his Regime and save our Country from the evil that currently runs it.

to Dangermouse

I'm sure you'd miss too much 'Survivor' though...

Now slink away - you've already shown yourself to be a twit in this thread.

CsG

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: SillyTIM

Originally posted by: Dangermouse33
Stupid dickwad. Maybe you should go to iraq and let the militants let loose on You - you know, just to prove your point.

I have no problem at all serving America and going over there to become one with the Earth, if it will take down Bush & his Regime and save our Country from the evil that currently runs it.

to Dangermouse

By one with the Earth do you mean that you volunteer to get your head sawed off my one of those Extremists to bring down the Dub? Man go for it, it's your duty as an American!

 

[phillyTIM]

to you bush-apologists while I play the violin for how "righteous" you are

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
to you bush-apologists while I play the violin for how "noble" you are

Hmm since when did noting that you are a Dickwad mean I was a Bush Apologists?

 

[phillyTIM]

it doesn't...but your history of posting makes you a bush-apologist

and besides, only a bush-apologist would quickly mislabel and call someone something so boheimic and supple as a "dickwad"

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
it doesn't...but your history of posting makes you a bush-apologist

and besides, only a bush-apologist would quickly mislabel and call someone something so boheimic and supple as a "dickwad"

I don't know what boheimic means ( I actually tried to look it up) and I certainly didn't mislabel you.

I am not a fan of the Dub and I think his excellent adventure in Iraq was ill advised. That said, I would never wish for more Amreican Deaths, especially by means of beheading.

 

[NoReMoRsE]

Just nuke the planet and start again

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
it doesn't...but your history of posting makes you a bush-apologist

and besides, only a bush-apologist would quickly mislabel and call someone something so boheimic and supple as a "dickwad"

I don't know what boheimic means ( I actually tried to look it up) and I certainly didn't mislabel you.

I am not a fan of the Dub and I think his excellent adventure in Iraq was ill advised. That said, I would never wish for more Amreican Deaths, especially by means of beheading.

PhillyTim,

Red Dawn is about as centrist as it gets here in this forum. At least that's been my observation.

 

[Infohawk]

At what point have the contracters been warned? Most of the original contractors never bargained for getting their heads cut off and that made their beheadings particularly tragic. Think of Cheney and his roses and the other guy promising a square named after Bush. I could see some coolaid victims not understanding it was a dangerous place. But what about now? Everyone's heard of the beheadings. It's becoming reckless to stay in Iraq and not be a soldier. How much are those wages that really belong to Iraqis actually worth?

 

[Garuda]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
At what point have the contracters been warned? Most of the original contractors never bargained for getting their heads cut off and that made their beheadings particularly tragic. Think of Cheney and his roses and the other guy promising a square named after Bush. I could see some coolaid victims not understanding it was a dangerous place. But what about now? Everyone's heard of the beheadings. It's becoming reckless to stay in Iraq and not be a soldier. How much are those wages that really belong to Iraqis actually worth?

One of the problems with this ill advised war is that everyone forgot that most people in the Middle East are lazy and don't work, even for fairly high wages.

Most of the work done in Saudi Arabia is done by migrant laborers from India, the Phillipines, etc.

In countries like Kuwait and UAE, half the population or more are non-citizens from other countries (mainly 3rd world) who live and work there and send home their wages.

So it's not a big surprise that in Iraq few natives want to work. Everyone would like to employ Iraqis, but it's hard to find Iraqis who want to work, even with the high unemployment there. I'm sure "putting Iraqis back to work" would have made for great press, but they just don't want to work. Indians and Nepalis are doing low and medium level work there. Many truck drivers are Turks. And for skilled jobs, they need to bring in people from Western countries, and pay them very high salaries for the risk of going to Iraq.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Garuda
most people in the Middle East are lazy and don't work

How do you know this?

 

[crown711]

can't pull it up?