Another bad pitbull ruining it for others...

[TechBoyJK]

i've seen some pretty bad rot weilers

it's all about the owners.

my old roommates have a pit named 'caeser'. BIG damn dog. sweet as a button. it's scared of their cats, which are like 1/5 it's size.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: skyking
If you check alky's post, it seems the pit is attacking or chasing his dog not him. The owners are probably encouraging aggression and fighting with dogs, and are wannabe dog fighter idiots. The dogs still needs to go down now because it will be hard to get that out of him, and that's a shame.

Yeah, it looks like he's only dog aggressive. But the dog is still attacking the OP's property so he has a right to defend it. A good swing of a bat will make sure the dog never attacks his again. It's really the owners who should be hit with the bat though, it's not the dog's fault it was raised to fight. Once it's dog aggressive it's almost impossible to get out of them, and there's a good chance it will attack a human eventually.

Working with some local volunteer groups for lost pets, it's statistically much harder to get someone to adopt a dog who is dog aggressive. We have to tell potential owners up front about this and make sure they know the dog will need extensive training.

dog bit me a couple times in grazing. He did not want to stop even though I had picked up my dog.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
dog bit me a couple times in grazing. He did not want to stop even though I had picked up my dog.

Yeah, that's a big problem. You need to report that dog to animal control immediately before it attacks other dogs and most likely people. It needs to be put down. You should file a civil suit against the owners too, but know you said you didn't want trouble. In the least, call animal control and tell them you were bit, you probably aren't the first. You can only hope that a child isn't walking by at the wrong time.

 

[lxskllr]

I'd kill that son of a bitch in flat second. At an old apartment I had, some neighborhood crack whore used to walk around with her pit, and that worthless fucker would growl at me while I was typing my boat to my van. I started wearing my PFD while hooking up the boat, for both added armor, and my river knife I kept lashed to the vest. If that worthless sack of meat even came close to coming after me, I wouldn't have hesitated leaving it in a pile on the curb.

 

[MrMatt]

Originally posted by: phreaqe
you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

I agree.


Although if I recall, Dalmations account for the most attacks each year in the U.S. vicious spotted dogs.

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: Regs
I don't like pit bulls either. They're aggressive and for a reason. It takes a certain degree of responsibility owning such a aggressive dog, but it's not like we're screening owners. If they can't be domesticated why have them at all?

The can be domesticated. I have a friend who owns a pit bull that is a huge teddy bear. She raised him correctly and responsibly. That said if this were me I'd have a can of mace or something ready should that dog attack a 3rd time.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Why not avoid walking by that house?

He shouldn't have to.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: Regs
I don't like pit bulls either. They're aggressive and for a reason. It takes a certain degree of responsibility owning such a aggressive dog, but it's not like we're screening owners. If they can't be domesticated why have them at all?

The can be domesticated. I have a friend who owns a pit bull that is a huge teddy bear. She raised him correctly and responsibly. That said if this were me I'd have a can of mace or something ready should that dog attack a 3rd time.

Lions can be domesticated too....

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: jjsole
3 foot fence for a pit bull?? That's an invitation to disaster.

Agreed. I love pitbulls. We used to raise and sell them about 25 years ago. But you have to be responsible with them because they are some mean machines....thus their appeal. Five feet min on the fences IMO, pref 6.

OP, I would report the owners to either code enforcement or city pound. What if that dog gets out and bites a child? You might be doing the irresponsible owner a favor and saving them from an expensive lawsuit.:light:

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: Regs
I don't like pit bulls either. They're aggressive and for a reason. It takes a certain degree of responsibility owning such a aggressive dog, but it's not like we're screening owners. If they can't be domesticated why have them at all?

The can be domesticated. I have a friend who owns a pit bull that is a huge teddy bear. She raised him correctly and responsibly. That said if this were me I'd have a can of mace or something ready should that dog attack a 3rd time.

Lions can be domesticated too....

Keeping a lion as a pet does not mean they're domesticated. That is why keeping animals like wolves and big cats is illegal without a permit in most states.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Keeping a lion as a pet does not mean they're domesticated. That is why keeping animals like wolves and big cats is illegal without a permit in most states.

They're just as domesticated as any other animal bred for aggression.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: protocol167
Plain and simple. Something about you that the pitbull does not like. Avoid walking by take detour like back in high school when you were taking a detour to get away from Bully's.

Like the fact that he has a dog? Don't be an idiot. I've encountered this kind of behavior in Pit Bulls and a couple other breeds many times. This dog should be put down.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Keeping a lion as a pet does not mean they're domesticated. That is why keeping animals like wolves and big cats is illegal without a permit in most states.

They're just as domesticated as any other animal bred for aggression.

This is nonsense. Domesticated animals, like dogs, are breed over hundreds and thousands of years for to ignore their instincts and rely on humans for direction.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Barfo
The owners are clearly at fault for this, but it's not like you hear about labs attacking people in the news all the time so ban the breed already.

Yep shoot the dog.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: phreaqe
you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

http://www.kptv.com/news/14920969/detail.html

Just sayin'.

Look at the percentages. I'm too lazy to look it up nor do I really care cause what we say here won't really have any effect but I can almost guarantee (almost!) that theres a higher percentage of pitbulls that attack people than any other breed.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: phreaqe
you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

http://www.kptv.com/news/14920969/detail.html

Just sayin'.

Look at the percentages. I'm too lazy to look it up nor do I really care cause what we say here won't really have any effect but I can almost guarantee (almost!) that theres a higher percentage of pitbulls that attack people than any other breed.

Guns kill people, ban all guns.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: phreaqe
you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

http://www.kptv.com/news/14920969/detail.html

Just sayin'.

Look at the percentages. I'm too lazy to look it up nor do I really care cause what we say here won't really have any effect but I can almost guarantee (almost!) that theres a higher percentage of pitbulls that attack people than any other breed.

Guns kill people, ban all guns.

Would be relevant if we were talking about guns But since this is about dogs, your comment is about as relevant as saying hurricanes kill people, ban all hurricanes.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: phreaqe
you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

http://www.kptv.com/news/14920969/detail.html

Just sayin'.

Look at the percentages. I'm too lazy to look it up nor do I really care cause what we say here won't really have any effect but I can almost guarantee (almost!) that theres a higher percentage of pitbulls that attack people than any other breed.

Guns kill people, ban all guns.

Would be relevant if we were talking about guns

What you clowns want is to be insulated from suffering the effects of another person's stupidity. It will never happen. Whether it's a gun, a powerful breed of dog, or a car being driven recklessly people will always abuse the tools they are given.

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk
What you clowns want is to be insulated from suffering the effects of another person's stupidity. It will never happen. Whether it's a gun, a powerful breed of dog, or a car being driven recklessly people will always abuse the tools they are given.

Yup. This is true. I abuse my tool all the time, too.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

What you clowns want is to be insulated from suffering the effects of another person's stupidity. It will never happen. Whether it's a gun, a powerful breed of dog, or a car being driven recklessly people will always abuse the tools they are given.

You're confused. I think you must be responding to a different thread since no one in here has called for the ban of pitbulls(or guns for that matter).

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

What you clowns want is to be insulated from suffering the effects of another person's stupidity. It will never happen. Whether it's a gun, a powerful breed of dog, or a car being driven recklessly people will always abuse the tools they are given.

You're confused. I think you must be responding to a different thread since no one in here has called for the ban of pitbulls(or guns for that matter).

Originally posted by: Barfo
The owners are clearly at fault for this, but it's not like you hear about labs attacking people in the news all the time so ban the breed already.

Originally posted by: phreaqe
you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

There are many cities with pitbull bans because of people's knee jerk fear inspired reactions to bad dog owners.

 

[halik]

move out of the ghetto?

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: phreaqe
you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

http://www.kptv.com/news/14920969/detail.html

Just sayin'.

There's a couple of studies that show that pitbulls and rotweilers are responsible for a large percentage of all attacks.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Bad owners tend to want to own dogs with a perceived "coolness" factor. If all those same owners owned labs, and raised and treated them the same way, they would turn out pretty bad.

Sure, there are dog breeds that are more naturally protective or aggressive, but it is all about how they are raised. The reason for so many pit attacks is because pit bulls are the favorite dog of stupid owners.

I have been around many pit bulls raised in loving, caring households, and they are just about the most calm, adorable dogs in the world.

:thumbsup: Exactly. You will not find many articles on lab attacks because the people who want an aggressive dog or something of that nature will tend to get a pitbull for the sheer fact of how it is perceived already. I've had 2 pits and ZERO problems with both. I've also been around quite a few and have never been scared at all, in fact, I've found them to be much more loving/accepting of strangers than most little-purse dogs.

If you check out the temperant test that is conducted yearly you will see that the American Pitbull Terrier actually gets higher marks than a lot of breeds --

http://www.atts.org/stats1.html

These dogs were NOT bred to attack humans, in fact they were bred to love and adore humans.

I'm sorry but it always comes down to the fact that it is ALL about the owner...you treat any dog badly it will be aggressive.

Temperament is completely irrelevant compared to the actual bite and fatality statistics. How do you explain that pittbulls and rotweillers are responsible for some 65% of all attacks? All of that is due to bad owner - pittbulls and rotweilers attract bad owners?

Bans are not the best solution though, best would be to tax it since pittbulls are statistically considered a "bad" (regardless whether it's the breed or an owner). That would reduce the number of pitbulls as well as stupid owners, as it increases the cost of ownership.

Also the analogy to guns would only work if legally-owned guns were responsible for majority of fatalities, which isn't the case.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
a little arsnic laced t-bones will do wonders...

:disgust: