Another bad pitbull ruining it for others...

[alkemyst]

About a week ago a pitbull hopped the 3' fence in it's front yards and began pursuing me and my dog...cross traffic came and gave me a way out. I called the police to report it not so much for chasing as it dodging rush morning traffic now.

Today I was walking down that same block and said hi to the guy that lives next door to the bad dogs house. Next thing I know is the pitbull is outside the fence again and attacking mine. The neighbor started beating it with a shirt and told me to run (bad advice)...fortunately a guy in a big pickup swerved onto the swale yelling jump in.

He lived on the block and knew these fuckers, he said they are a bad group with a bad dog. I called the police again, but there is nothing they can do without blood drawn (I could sue civilly but what would thac accomplish)...

There have been several incidents but nothing with an injury that was reported.

Sucks that this dog is the pawn in it all and it's only a matter of time before someone takes it into their own hands.

I plan to just walk up another block before cutting over.

If you own a dog be responsible.

 

[Barfo]

The owners are clearly at fault for this, but it's not like you hear about labs attacking people in the news all the time so ban the breed already.

 

[SP33Demon]

Bring a bat and kill it tomorrow. If it's dog and human aggressive you'll be doing everyone a favor, it's only a matter of time before it will really hurt someone.

 

[phreaqe]

you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: phreaqe
you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

http://www.kptv.com/news/14920969/detail.html

Just sayin'.

 

[Regs]

I don't like pit bulls either. They're aggressive and for a reason. It takes a certain degree of responsibility owning such a aggressive dog, but it's not like we're screening owners. If they can't be domesticated why have them at all?

 

[phreaqe]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: phreaqe
you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

http://www.kptv.com/news/14920969/detail.html

Just sayin'.

i am not saying that other dogs cant or wont attack. but that is the first article i have seen where the dog was not a pitbull or doberman. at the same time i dont go out of my way looking for dog attack articles and the media likes to sensationalize all the stories about pitbulls and whatnot. still my belief is that there should be more regulation on owning these types of dogs.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Why not avoid walking by that house?

 

[bignateyk]

Bad owners tend to want to own dogs with a perceived "coolness" factor. If all those same owners owned labs, and raised and treated them the same way, they would turn out pretty bad.

Sure, there are dog breeds that are more naturally protective or aggressive, but it is all about how they are raised. The reason for so many pit attacks is because pit bulls are the favorite dog of stupid owners.

I have been around many pit bulls raised in loving, caring households, and they are just about the most calm, adorable dogs in the world.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Bad owners tend to want to own dogs with a perceived "coolness" factor. If all those same owners owned labs, and raised and treated them the same way, they would turn out pretty bad.

Sure, there are dog breeds that are more naturally protective or aggressive, but it is all about how they are raised. The reason for so many pit attacks is because pit bulls are the favorite dog of stupid owners.

I have been around many pit bulls raised in loving, caring households, and they are just about the most calm, adorable dogs in the world.

/agreed. I love my pit, he's awesome. But in many cases the best thing to do is put the dog down because once it's human aggressive you don't want to take the chance that it will attack a human again. I think the OP should bring a bat and take it out if it attacks him.

 

[protocol167]

Plain and simple. Something about you that the pitbull does not like. Avoid walking by take detour like back in high school when you were taking a detour to get away from Bully's.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Bad owners tend to want to own dogs with a perceived "coolness" factor. If all those same owners owned labs, and raised and treated them the same way, they would turn out pretty bad.

Sure, there are dog breeds that are more naturally protective or aggressive, but it is all about how they are raised. The reason for so many pit attacks is because pit bulls are the favorite dog of stupid owners.

I have been around many pit bulls raised in loving, caring households, and they are just about the most calm, adorable dogs in the world.

:thumbsup: Exactly. You will not find many articles on lab attacks because the people who want an aggressive dog or something of that nature will tend to get a pitbull for the sheer fact of how it is perceived already. I've had 2 pits and ZERO problems with both. I've also been around quite a few and have never been scared at all, in fact, I've found them to be much more loving/accepting of strangers than most little-purse dogs.

If you check out the temperant test that is conducted yearly you will see that the American Pitbull Terrier actually gets higher marks than a lot of breeds --

http://www.atts.org/stats1.html

These dogs were NOT bred to attack humans, in fact they were bred to love and adore humans.

I'm sorry but it always comes down to the fact that it is ALL about the owner...you treat any dog badly it will be aggressive.

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Bad owners tend to want to own dogs with a perceived "coolness" factor. If all those same owners owned labs, and raised and treated them the same way, they would turn out pretty bad.

Sure, there are dog breeds that are more naturally protective or aggressive, but it is all about how they are raised. The reason for so many pit attacks is because pit bulls are the favorite dog of stupid owners.

I have been around many pit bulls raised in loving, caring households, and they are just about the most calm, adorable dogs in the world.

/agreed. I love my pit, he's awesome. But in many cases the best thing to do is put the dog down because once it's human aggressive you don't want to take the chance that it will attack a human again. I think the OP should bring a bat and take it out if it attacks him.

If you check alky's post, it seems the pit is attacking or chasing his dog not him. The owners are probably encouraging aggression and fighting with dogs, and are wannabe dog fighter idiots. The dogs still needs to go down now because it will be hard to get that out of him, and that's a shame.

 

[phreaqe]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Bad owners tend to want to own dogs with a perceived "coolness" factor. If all those same owners owned labs, and raised and treated them the same way, they would turn out pretty bad.

Sure, there are dog breeds that are more naturally protective or aggressive, but it is all about how they are raised. The reason for so many pit attacks is because pit bulls are the favorite dog of stupid owners.

I have been around many pit bulls raised in loving, caring households, and they are just about the most calm, adorable dogs in the world.

/agreed. I love my pit, he's awesome. But in many cases the best thing to do is put the dog down because once it's human aggressive you don't want to take the chance that it will attack a human again. I think the OP should bring a bat and take it out if it attacks him.

those pitbulls you know may be very calm and adorable, but it seems to me that they are the most easy to snap and become human aggressive. yes alot of stupid owners get them, but i believe that is only part of the problem.

 

[Barfo]

Originally posted by: Josh
These dogs were NOT bred to attack humans, in fact they were bred to love and adore humans.

Really?

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: phreaqe

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Bad owners tend to want to own dogs with a perceived "coolness" factor. If all those same owners owned labs, and raised and treated them the same way, they would turn out pretty bad.

Sure, there are dog breeds that are more naturally protective or aggressive, but it is all about how they are raised. The reason for so many pit attacks is because pit bulls are the favorite dog of stupid owners.

I have been around many pit bulls raised in loving, caring households, and they are just about the most calm, adorable dogs in the world.

/agreed. I love my pit, he's awesome. But in many cases the best thing to do is put the dog down because once it's human aggressive you don't want to take the chance that it will attack a human again. I think the OP should bring a bat and take it out if it attacks him.

those pitbulls you know may be very calm and adorable, but it seems to me that they are the most easy to snap and become human aggressive. yes alot of stupid owners get them, but i believe that is only part of the problem.

It's not a problem if you snip their balls when they're very young. Hence they never reach the high level of aggression without testosterone and never having mating instincts. My boy still acts very young and playful, he'll only act fierce if he truly feels threatened. His natural demeanor is to be petted and to lick anything and everyone in sight. He gets scared by thunder, it's pretty amusing.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: skyking
If you check alky's post, it seems the pit is attacking or chasing his dog not him. The owners are probably encouraging aggression and fighting with dogs, and are wannabe dog fighter idiots. The dogs still needs to go down now because it will be hard to get that out of him, and that's a shame.

Yeah, it looks like he's only dog aggressive. But the dog is still attacking the OP's property so he has a right to defend it. A good swing of a bat will make sure the dog never attacks his again. It's really the owners who should be hit with the bat though, it's not the dog's fault it was raised to fight. Once it's dog aggressive it's almost impossible to get out of them, and there's a good chance it will attack a human eventually.

Working with some local volunteer groups for lost pets, it's statistically much harder to get someone to adopt a dog who is dog aggressive. We have to tell potential owners up front about this and make sure they know the dog will need extensive training.

 

[JEDIYoda]

a little arsnic laced t-bones will do wonders...

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[Miramonti]

3 foot fence for a pit bull?? That's an invitation to disaster.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: Barfo

Originally posted by: Josh
These dogs were NOT bred to attack humans, in fact they were bred to love and adore humans.

Really?

"Today, a properly bred Pit Bull is so exuberantly happy upon meeting her owner's friends (or even friendly strangers) that new owners sometimes worry that their dog is too sweet and fun-loving to protect their home and family... "

"Personality:
Pit bulls tend to be very dependent on their humans and crave love and attention. On average, pit bulls tend to be very confident and outgoing dogs. However, their natural confidence can be eroded by severe abuse or long confinement with little human contact."

What I'm trying to say is this breed LOVES humans. They thrive on human companionship and if brought up in a loving household will tend to greet ALL other humans in a very gentle, nice way rather than with aggression. I myself even am scared that if someone broke in my house my dog would do absoloutely nothing except greet the intruders with a friendly hello, lick their hands, follow them around while they clean my place out and then cry for a little bit when they leave.

I will admit they are not the best breed to have interactions with other dogs, as through the years they have unfortunately been bred to be aggressive towards dogs, but I've seen quite a few pitbulls be very gentle and accepting of other dogs as well.

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: Barfo

Originally posted by: Josh
These dogs were NOT bred to attack humans, in fact they were bred to love and adore humans.

Really?

"Today, a properly bred Pit Bull is so exuberantly happy upon meeting her owner's friends (or even friendly strangers) that new owners sometimes worry that their dog is too sweet and fun-loving to protect their home and family... "

"Personality:
Pit bulls tend to be very dependent on their humans and crave love and attention. On average, pit bulls tend to be very confident and outgoing dogs. However, their natural confidence can be eroded by severe abuse or long confinement with little human contact."

What I'm trying to say is this breed LOVES humans. They thrive on human companionship and if brought up in a loving household will tend to greet ALL other humans in a very gentle, nice way rather than with aggression. I myself even am scared that if someone broke in my house my dog would do absoloutely nothing except greet the intruders with a friendly hello, lick their hands, follow them around while they clean my place out and then cry for a little bit when they leave.

I will admit they are not the best breed to have interactions with other dogs, as through the years they have unfortunately been bred to be aggressive towards dogs, but I've seen quite a few pitbulls be very gentle and accepting of other dogs as well.

I suppose it is not fair to use Ceasar's dog as an example, but his pit "daddy" is so good he uses him to train other dogs.
My first rottweiler had that same demeanor. He never fought with dogs and I could use him to train obedience by example.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: skyking

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: Barfo

Originally posted by: Josh
These dogs were NOT bred to attack humans, in fact they were bred to love and adore humans.

Really?

"Today, a properly bred Pit Bull is so exuberantly happy upon meeting her owner's friends (or even friendly strangers) that new owners sometimes worry that their dog is too sweet and fun-loving to protect their home and family... "

"Personality:
Pit bulls tend to be very dependent on their humans and crave love and attention. On average, pit bulls tend to be very confident and outgoing dogs. However, their natural confidence can be eroded by severe abuse or long confinement with little human contact."

What I'm trying to say is this breed LOVES humans. They thrive on human companionship and if brought up in a loving household will tend to greet ALL other humans in a very gentle, nice way rather than with aggression. I myself even am scared that if someone broke in my house my dog would do absoloutely nothing except greet the intruders with a friendly hello, lick their hands, follow them around while they clean my place out and then cry for a little bit when they leave.

I will admit they are not the best breed to have interactions with other dogs, as through the years they have unfortunately been bred to be aggressive towards dogs, but I've seen quite a few pitbulls be very gentle and accepting of other dogs as well.

I suppose it is not fair to use Ceasar's dog as an example, but his pit "daddy" is so good he uses him to train other dogs.

Yea. Daddy's energy is great for other dogs. Even when other dogs are being aggressive Daddy tends to be calm, etc...Daddy is getting old though and sadly, he's training his replacement right now - Junior

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman and protocol167
Why not avoid walking by that house?

I plan to just walk up another block before cutting over.

mentioned this already, I am not looking to make this a war.

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

That sucks. I'm surprised neither you or your dog were injured if the pit was intent on doing harm.

Also, I thought we weren't allowed to discuss violence to animals.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: phreaqe
you know, the pit bull defenders will get in here saying its not the dog and blah blah blah. the thing is. i dont think i have ever hear of a lab attack or beagle attack or whatever. as much as i love dogs i dislike more and more the idea of people owning pitbulls.

If an owner raises their lab to attack it would be just like a pitbull. Cocker Spaniels used to make the news for dog bites prior to pits.

The thing is all terriers are a bit animal aggressive and socialization can make or break that group...it's part of why they were breed.