I did, see my other post. I don't have a proof, but that does serve as an indication that 460 sells well. By looking at the red percentages from the 5xxx series, it does indicate 460 is hurting the 5xxx series. Do not get me wrong. I am not saying "460 is killing AMD" or "AMD is going to die" or anything of that nature.Yes, sales of one product affect the sales of other products. That is not in dispute. The OP said that the 460 specifically was causing problems, to which I said we dont really know that because we don't have that information. Yes, we could bring in sales numbers, but until someone does, we do not have that info, hence, my point. If you have those numbers, please share, otherwise, you have no factual idea either.
Are you sure that is economy? It sounds like marketing.The 460 competes in one product segment. It does not matter to people that want the best of the best and will spend $500 on it, as they are not in the market for a 460. As with all things in an economy, your completion is for people that would buy your product, not those that would NOT buy your product.
You and I, are part of this forum. Your point is that you have a different opinion and that particular opinion requires proving.I have no idea where this came from. My only point, and the only thing I said, was that the forums "feelings about the success of cards" has very little correlation to what is actually happening.
You want proof from me to show that "460 sales well" and I did. Can you provide a proof that states otherwise?That is one heck of a read on what I am saying. Again, we DO NOT have any factual information about sales, demand, supply etc and have no way to know how well any card, including the 460, is selling.
See above.Your statement that the 460 is selling better than any other GPU must be based on something, although I have not seen it publicly released how many IC's AMD or Nvidia are selling. Care to share your source?
Actually, I don't. I don't think IDC agrees with you either, but I may be wrong.I think you are agreeing with me. The design for the 6XXX series has been in place before the 460 came to market and were probably designed around the same time. Check out IDC's post about respins and redesigns, as I think you may have the two concepts a bit backward.
I did.How do you know this? Again, you are asserting this as fact, but as far as any of us can tell, it is just your opinion. You do not know what AMD's plans were with this design. In any event, they certainly had backup plans and would have known about node problems before the general public (i.e. us).
I don't recall I said 460 isn't a part of the Fermi architecture.I think other posters have explained that your statement is false. By that logic, the 5770 cores are a different generation than the chips that power the 5830, 5850 and 5870. They are somewhat different *designs* but they share a common architecture (building blocks) as their larger brothers. Same goes for the Fermi family.