Anonymous outs alleged Amanda Todd bully

[arkcom]

That is one insane of excuse of a society where this is illegal considering that them having sex wouldn't be illegal. (right?)

Correct. I guess the thinking is that once the pictures exist, it's a small step to mass emailing them, blackmail, etc. Not unlike what happened in this case.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

It has to do with distributing cp and it's rare but it happens everywhere.

Generally it happens when the bf / gf shares the pictures enough that adults find out and many get in trouble including the person that exposed themselves.

Well, it's not a sane law.

But i stand corrected, in the US it's not criminal for minors to have sex but it is criminal to share pictures of their breasts with others.

I'm just thinking about all the movies which must be child porn in the US...

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Correct. I guess the thinking is that once the pictures exist, it's a small step to mass emailing them, blackmail, etc. Not unlike what happened in this case.

But if that is the case then why not do it like every other nation i know of and make it illegal for adults to possess them but not illegal for minors to pose for them.

I mean if a minor cannot consent to sex she most certainly cannot consent to getting her picture taken either and in both cases she should not be incriminated but the perpetrator should be if he is not underaged him or herself.

 

[SheHateMe]

Again, you cannot allow anyone a reason.

You can absolutely give someone a reason to do something, but you can't allow someone a reason since reason is personal and cannot be allowed or disallowed.

al·low   [uh-lou]
verb (used with object)
1.
to give permission to or for; permit: to allow a student to be absent; No swimming allowed.
2.
to let have; give as one's share; grant as one's right: to allow a person $100 for expenses.
3.
to permit by neglect, oversight, or the like: to allow a door to remain open.

 

[Newbian]

Well, it's not a sane law.

But i stand corrected, in the US it's not criminal for minors to have sex but it is criminal to share pictures of their breasts with others.

I'm just thinking about all the movies which must be child porn in the US...

Oddly enough this seems to happen more in the uk when I see a story about it.

 

[sixone]

Unknowingly giving him an opportunity to take advantage of her is STILL a consequence of her actions. Obviously, we can assess that had she known he would be a creep and blackmail her(had she known who she was flashing at all..she said she didn't know him) and the affect of her actions...she probably wouldn't have done it.

You're right, we can't assume she would have made the same choice.

How is this any different from me holding her responsible for her actions?


She was 11...and she made a bad choice do to her immaturity...but does it make her irresponsible for her actions?

Holding her responsible and claiming that she caused the scumbag to blackmail her are two completely different things.

Her bad behavior is in not way responsible for his criminal behavior.

 

[SheHateMe]

A minor can consent to sex with another minor. Just not with an adult.

The age of consent is different in some states.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Oddly enough this seems to happen more in the uk when I see a story about it.

What? It most certainly isn't illegal here to take pictures of your breasts and share them as a minor, it IS illegal for adults to possess those pictures though.

So you're wrong about that, no minor can be prosecuted for a crime they didn't commit in the UK.

 

[SheHateMe]

Holding her responsible and claiming that she caused the scumbag to blackmail her are two completely different things.

Her bad behavior is in not way responsible for his criminal behavior.

Meh,

But you do acknowledge that she showed her breasts, right?

What did she say in her video about how/why her life was ruined? What happened a year after she showed her breasts? What did she say, again?

Someone cannot come into your private life unless you give them a means/reason to.

Once again, I did not say she was responsible for his actions. He took advantage of the situation because hes a terrible person. Never said it was her fault.

 

[BudAshes]

By the very definition of bullying, neither of the things you said are required to bully, so why are you either lieing or intentionally spreading misinformation?

It's spelled lying not lieing and the definition for bully since you can't seem to use google is:

1. a person who hurts, persecutes, or intimidates weaker people

To hurt, persecute or intimidate someone you must have power over them. Hopefully that was simple enough.

 

[Newbian]

What? It most certainly isn't illegal here to take pictures of your breasts and share them as a minor, it IS illegal for adults to possess those pictures though.

So you're wrong about that, no minor can be prosecuted for a crime they didn't commit in the UK.

If you say something enough it might make it true to you at least.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

A minor can consent to sex with another minor. Just not with an adult.

The age of consent is different in some states.

It is not illegal for a minor to have sex with an adult.

It is illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor.

If you tell me this isn't the case in the US then you are wrong, NO nation is so stupid that it would incriminate a minor for having sex with an adult.

Well except for Muslim societies where it depends on if it was a man and what place he had in society.

 

[BudAshes]

A minor can consent to sex with another minor. Just not with an adult.

not true by law.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

If you say something enough it might make it true to you at least.

If you think i'm wrong, look it up for yourself.

You are the claimant, you say this happens often in the UK, so go ahead and provide evidence of that claim or shut the fuck up.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

not true by law.

Yup, no minor can consent but it's not criminal for minors to have sex.

 

[SheHateMe]

not true by law.

Where do you live when it is not true by law that a minor cannot consent to sex with an adult before the age of consent? Or are you disputing my statement that two minors can consent to sex with each other?

 

[SheHateMe]

It is not illegal for a minor to have sex with an adult.

It is illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor.

LOL That is the same thing.

D:

Just like a glass being half empty or half full.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

LOL That is the same thing.

D:

It's not illegal for Bob to be stabbed in the face by Pete. It is illegal for Pete to stab Bob in the face.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

It's spelled lying not lieing and the definition for bully since you can't seem to use google is:

1. a person who hurts, persecutes, or intimidates weaker people

To hurt, persecute or intimidate someone you must have power over them. Hopefully that was simple enough.

I can Google just fine. But I see you are going with intentionally lying.

Merriam Webster definition 2a

"a blustery browbeating person; especially: one habitually cruel to others who are weaker."

To criticize me for my spelling its odd that you would leave out such an important, defining word. It's not required for you to be weaker.

Again, why are you lying?

 

[SheHateMe]

It's not illegal for Bob to be stabbed in the face by Pete. It is illegal for Pete to stab Bob in the face.

My goodness.

It is illegal in the United States to engage in sexual acts with a minor.

If your anecdote was true, none of the teachers caught up in student sex scandals would go to jail.


Teacher having sex with student..student having sex with teacher. All the same thing. :whiste:

 

[Newbian]

If you think i'm wrong, look it up for yourself.

You are the claimant, you say this happens often in the UK, so go ahead and provide evidence of that claim or shut the fuck up.

So you are saying they don't have a law against distributing cp in the uk now?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

My goodness.

It is illegal in the United States to engage in sexual acts with a minor.

If your anecdote was true, none of the teachers caught up in student sex scandals would go to jail.

Teacher having sex with student..student having sex with teacher. All the same thing. :whiste:

You obviously misread my post, didn't understand what John and I meant by it, or are just trolling at this point.

Bob = an underaged girl
Pete = an adult male
stabbed = with a penis

Does that help?

 

[Newbian]

It's not illegal for Bob to be stabbed in the face by Pete. It is illegal for Pete to stab Bob in the face.

Well bob is a asshole so he deserved it.

 

[SheHateMe]

You obviously misread my post, didn't understand what John and I meant by it, or are just trolling at this point.

Bob = an underaged girl
Pete = an adult male
stabbed = with a penis

Does that help?

Your example does not make sense in the context of sexual intercourse between two people. A minor having sex with an adult is the same as an adult having sex with a minor. There is no distinction between the two. Its the same act, and it is illegal. No matter how you state it.

 

[Newbian]

If you think i'm wrong, look it up for yourself.

You are the claimant, you say this happens often in the UK, so go ahead and provide evidence of that claim or shut the fuck up.

Quick google found this:

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Boy-14-arrested-pornographic-Facebook-video/story-15713228-detail/story.html

From that article:

A very common practice among young people at the moment is 'sexting' – the act of sending sexually explicit photographs, primarily between mobile phones. If the subject of the image is under 18 then anyone who makes, possesses or shares the image commits a criminal offence.