Anonymous outs alleged Amanda Todd bully

[SheHateMe]

Of course not, if it's not explicitly stated that it's illegal it's not illegal... christ, now you have no clue about how the legal system of the modern world (or actually, ever since the magna carta) works either?



There is no proof because there is not law that explicitly states what is legal you daft fuck.

And no, the article doesn't say SHIT about my argument, you didn't even read it, did you?

Hmmm.. not explicitly stated. So does the UK not have explicitly stated laws on CP?


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[JohnOfSheffield]

reality and laws. Sure a teen can technically consent. Legally they cannot. The end problem still exists, both had sex. so yes laws aside people can give consent, laws are what each country writes and deems to be as a course of action. But i really don't care enough to bicker about something that serves no end purpose other than to make yourself feel better....shoudln't you be calling me childish names by now?

Laws aside? We're talking about what is legal and you're saying that to get the bottom of it we should disregard the laws because laws are just what countries write and deems to be a course of action (whatever the FUCK that means), though you don't care because it's just a feel good issue?

Do you even legal?

Idiot...

 

[SheHateMe]

Section 1 Protection of Children Act 1978

Section 1(1) of the PCA 1978 creates a number of offences and has been given a wide interpretation by the courts. These are either way offences with a maximum term of imprisonment of ten years if convicted on indictment.

For an offence under section 1 PCA 1978 the prosecution has to prove:

That the defendant deliberately and/or knowingly either made, took, or permitted to be taken, distributed or showed indecent photographs or pseudo-photographs, or possessed them with a view to their being distributed or shown, published or caused to be published an advertisement for indecent photographs.
The photograph or pseudo-photograph was indecent. Indecent photograph includes an indecent film, or a copy of a photograph or film, or computer data capable of conversion into a photo a copy. See section 7 PCA 1978. The test for indecency is for the jury to decide based on what is the recognized standard of propriety. R v Stamford [1972] 2 Q.B. 391. The circumstances and motive of the defendant are not relevant to the question of indecency, although they may be relevant to the question of whether the photograph was deliberately taken or made, R v Graham-Kerr 88 Cr App R 302 CA; R v Smethurst [2002] 1 Cr App R 6, CA. Archbold 31 - 114.

The photograph or pseudo-photograph was of a child section 7(6) of the PCA 1978. Archbold 31 - 114. The definition of a child was altered from 16 to 18 years by section 45(1) of the Sexual Offences Act 2003, in force from 01 May 2004. The age of a child is ultimately for the jury to determine. It is a finding of fact for the jury, and expert evidence is inadmissible on the subject, since it is not a subject requiring the assistance of experts R v Land [1998] 1 Cr App R 301, CA. See also section 2(3) PCA 1978.

Explicitly stated laws and statutes in the UK. Pretty much identical to the US's laws on CP.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Hmmm.. not explicitly stated. So does the UK not have explicitly stated laws on CP?


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Yes retard, we do but the laws don't cover what is legal, they cover what ISN'T legal.

If we had laws about everything that was legal it would be 16 bazillion pages long and still missing things that are legal, like listeny to Motorhead while chewing gum with the left side of your mouth, running on a treadmill and throwing a grain of sand on the ground.

I'm starting to think you are trolling, no one can be as stupid as you portray yourself to be.

 

[Newbian]

Nope, it is absolutely illegal to possess such pictures, which if you could read you would already have read i said.

It's not illegal for a girl to take those pics of herself though or even pose for them, she is NOT commmiting a crime by doing so.

That is the point and no matter how much you feel it's all the young girls fault it doesn't work that way in sane societies.

Really?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1162777/Generation-sexting-What-teenage-girls-really-internet-chill-parent.html

What some of today's youngsters are doing is, by any civilised, contemporary standards, obscene,' says John Carr of the UK's Children's Charities' Coalition on Internet Safety.

'It also happens to be illegal. It's a genuinely new problem which is the result of the emergence of new technology together with an increasing cultural tolerance of pornography.

'It's horrifying, and we are only now becoming aware of the full extent of the problem.

'Publishing any photograph of a child - that's anyone under 18 - which is of a sexual nature is illegal. So children who put pornographic photographs of themselves online or share the material via their mobile phones are, technically, breaking the law.

So clearly there is a law in place that makes this illegal.

The moment they share it is when we are talking about and not just the moment the person takes the picture.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Explicitly stated laws and statutes in the UK.

Indeed, this explicitly describes a criminal act, not legal behaviour and no it doesn't prove you right but thank you for taking the time.

 

[SheHateMe]

Really?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1162777/Generation-sexting-What-teenage-girls-really-internet-chill-parent.html



So clearly there is a law in place that makes this illegal.

He cannot be convinced he is wrong. I just posted an entire chunk of the statue against producing, distributing, and viewing CP in the UK and he said it doesnt define what is legal and what is not.

What is the point of a law or a statue then.



The UK's Department of Child Protection Services

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/indecent_photographs_of_children/#a02

Of course, none of that babble explicitly states what is legal behavior and what is not. Derp.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Really?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1162777/Generation-sexting-What-teenage-girls-really-internet-chill-parent.html



So clearly there is a law in place that makes this illegal on books.

You quote the UK's response to the onion and expect me to take it seriously?

Come on, this happens OFTEN in the UK, your words. Now show me someone charged or even better, convicted for posing for a photo while minor.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

He cannot be convinced he is wrong. I just posted an entire chunk of the statue against producing, distributing, and viewing CP in the UK and he said it doesnt define what is legal and what is not.

What is the point of a law or a statue then.



The UK's Department of Child Protection Services

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/indecent_photographs_of_children/#a02

Of course, none of that babble explicitly states what is legal behavior and what is not. Derp.

No, i said it doesn't define what is legal and since you are obviously just trolling now, i'll bow out.

 

[Newbian]

You quote the UK's response to the onion and expect me to take it seriously?

Come on, this happens OFTEN in the UK, your words. Now show me someone charged or even better, convicted for posing for a photo while minor.

So nothing is good enough even with multiple links as evidence.

That's a great way to defend your case.

Here is another link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-17906164

York probation officer Martin Magill advised the project on the legal aspects of sexting.

He said quite often teenagers under 16 were unaware that sending or receiving explicit images of themselves, or their partners, was illegal.

He said: "If one of the parties sends the other a photo on the phone of them partially nude, in the eyes of the British law that becomes an indecent image.

"If you've got that on your phone then you are in possession of an indecent image of a child."

 

[HeXen]

Do you even legal?

Idiot...

lmao...see, now don't you feel better about yourself? its ok, my stepson does that all the time when he can't rationalize and have an adult convo. good luck on always being right though.

 

[SheHateMe]

No, i said it doesn't define what is legal and since you are obviously just trolling now, i'll bow out.

You really shouldn't talk to yourself. But, au revoir ^_^

 

[moonbogg]

So now that this unknown guy has been through the supreme court of ATOT, do you guys feel better? Amanda is DEAD! You can't bring her back you assholes! Unlike you guys death isn't good enough for her and you should feel like crap for dragging this thing out.

 

[bradley]

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/49494035?from=en-us_msnhp#49494035

 

[DCal430]

SheHatesMe, if a 12 year girl decides to meet a a 25 year old stranger, she finds on the internet, and he ends up raping her. Is she some how to blame for it, since she made a poor decision to meet up with him.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

SheHatesMe, if a 12 year girl decides to meet a a 25 year old stranger, she finds on the internet, and he ends up raping her. Is she some how to blame for it, since she made a poor decision to meet up with him.

Yes, and so are her parents.

 

[DCal430]

So now that this unknown guy has been through the supreme court of ATOT, do you guys feel better? Amanda is DEAD! You can't bring her back you assholes! Unlike you guys death isn't good enough for her and you should feel like crap for dragging this thing out.

D:

Why do you hate her so much, you keep saying how she deserved to suffer.

 

[BudAshes]

Yes, and so are her parents.

Then we should give the rapist a high five for punishing them?

 

[shortylickens]

NSFW

http://i.imgur.com/BtaWS.jpg


I havent seen it posted here yet, but keep in mind I have several of you on Ignore.

 

[alkemyst]

NSFW

http://i.imgur.com/BtaWS.jpg


I havent seen it posted here yet, but keep in mind I have several of you on Ignore.

Pretty disgusting link.

 

[moonbogg]

Pretty disgusting link.

Disgusting? I thought she looked pretty god damn sexy right there. At least I admit it.

 

[BudAshes]

Disgusting? I thought she looked pretty god damn sexy right there. At least I admit it.

umm good for you?

 

[alkemyst]

Disgusting? I thought she looked pretty god damn sexy right there. At least I admit it.

There is nothing wrong with the girl's looks. It's more of the hate speech within it.

Also comparing it to Paris Hilton, an adult which also was paid for her 'porn' videos is equally nutty.

 

[GTaudiophile]

This thread is still going?

She shouldn't have messed around online. But I wonder what her parents did for her. Did she get professional help? Did her parents consider moving or sending her away to boarding school? It's sad that she (and many teen girls) are full of self-loathing; perhaps it's time that society also stop projecting a certain image for girls that they feel they must attain or they're worthless. (Image being: you are only worthy if you're thin and beautiful, hyper-sexual, have a boyfriend of a certain status, yet remain a virgin ready to walk down the aisle in your white dress for your fairy tale wedding that should cost no less than $20,000.)

He is a twisted, psycho stalker. I hope Anonymous finds him.

 

[alkemyst]

Since you obviously didn't read anything about her situation:

This thread is still going?

She shouldn't have messed around online. But I wonder what her parents did for her. Did she get professional help?

yes

Did her parents consider moving or sending her away to boarding school?

They changed her schools and moved...not everyone can afford boarding school though.

It's sad that she (and many teen girls) are full of self-loathing; perhaps it's time that society also stop projecting a certain image for girls that they feel they must attain or they're worthless. (Image being: you are only worthy if you're thin and beautiful, hyper-sexual, have a boyfriend of a certain status, yet remain a virgin ready to walk down the aisle in your white dress for your fairy tale wedding that should cost no less than $20,000.)

He is a twisted, psycho stalker. I hope Anonymous finds him.

This last statement had really nothing to do with the reason she had problems.