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Ann Romney: I don't consider myself wealthy

I don’t even consider myself wealthy which is am interesting thing. It can be here today and gone tomorrow, and how I measure riches is by the friends I have and the loved ones I have and the people I care about in my life and that is where my values are and those are my riches so for me having done through a difficult period in my life both with M.S. and with breast cancer it has done something to my heart and it’s softened my heart
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wow, what a wise and beautiful woman. 🙄

context matters. And the broader context in which Ann Romney is speaking is how her fights against multiple sclerosis and cancer have made her realize that wealth as defined by society in dollars is a poor measure for actual wealth...

Would she have been better off not saying the words “I don’t even consider myself wealthy” given the ongoing storyline about her family’s wealth? Absolutely. Still, her intent was clear. She was speaking about spiritual wealth as greater than material wealth.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-really-mean/2012/03/06/gIQA344huR_blog.html
 
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The thing I've noticed in Romney's "gaffes" about his wife's two Cadillacs, knowing NASCAR team owners, etc., is that he seems genuinely miffed that people aren't adoring him for having so much money. To him, people should be praising him for being so wealthy and performing well in the American capitalist system.

What he's missing is that talking about significant sums of wealth to a country struggling with unemployment is akin to making out with your girlfriend in front of a buddy who just got dumped. The friend usually won't tell you that you have to be single around him, but you're just making things worse for him/her by showing off, and the friend would be justified for resenting you for it.
 
cybrsage said:
Nice cherry picked clip taken out of context. Care to post the quote taken in context, or are you content to know you are lying by omission?

EDIT: Just noticed it was taken straight from ThinkProgress. That is not surprising.
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LMAO, it's a fucking video. Explain to me how it's 'out of context'.
 
loki8481 said:
wow, what a wise and beautiful woman. 🙄



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-really-mean/2012/03/06/gIQA344huR_blog.html
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Yeah I don't think this is really that bad, especially compared to all the earlier comments.

...although it is worth noting that if you follow her line of reasoning, she doesn't seem to think people particularly like/love her very much. 😛 Normally this type of comment goes "I don't have much money, but I feel like I'm rich, because I have so many wonderful people who love me." She's saying that she feels she is lacking in that regard, apparently.
 
Phokus said:
LMAO, it's a fucking video. Explain to me how it's 'out of context'.
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Are you asking this in a seriuos manner? Really? I will assume you are and answer it.

When you do not show what was said before and what was said after, you cannot know the context in which the item was said. Here is an example:

Obama said "we have fought fiercely for our beliefs. And that's a good thing". Taken out of context, I can say that Obama thinks the fight between AQ and the US is a good thing. He WANTS the death and destruction caused by this fight since it is a good thing. I could easily snag this snippet from a larger video.

Of course, taken in context, he actually said "It's no secret that those of us here tonight have had our differences over the last two years. The debates have been contentious; we have fought fiercely for our beliefs. And that's a good thing. That's what a robust democracy demands. That's what helps set us apart as a nation." as part of his 2011 State of the Union Address.

Context is important. We both know this, but since it will destroy your little hatefest, you pretend to be stupid and say it does not matter.
 
Wow the hate crew is stretching it here. So she has MS and had breast cancer and is thankful to be alive.. which is more important to her than having money.

Are you people really this bitter?
 
crashtestdummy said:
Yeah I don't think this is really that bad, especially compared to all the earlier comments.

...although it is worth noting that if you follow her line of reasoning, she doesn't seem to think people particularly like/love her very much. 😛 Normally this type of comment goes "I don't have much money, but I feel like I'm rich, because I have so many wonderful people who love me." She's saying that she feels she is lacking in that regard, apparently.
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She's clearly talking about her money

I don't see how it's out of context at all:

I don’t even consider myself wealthy which is am interesting thing. It can be here today and gone tomorrow
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I'd like to know how Romney's 200+ million is at risk of being 'gone tomorrow'.
 
cybrsage said:
Are you asking this in a seriuos manner? Really? I will assume you are and answer it.

When you do not show what was said before and what was said after, you cannot know the context in which the item was said. Here is an example:

Obama said "we have fought fiercely for our beliefs. And that's a good thing". Taken out of context, I can say that Obama thinks the fight between AQ and the US is a good thing. He WANTS the death and destruction caused by this fight since it is a good thing. I could easily snag this snippet from a larger video.

Of course, taken in context, he actually said "It's no secret that those of us here tonight have had our differences over the last two years. The debates have been contentious; we have fought fiercely for our beliefs. And that's a good thing. That's what a robust democracy demands. That's what helps set us apart as a nation." as part of his 2011 State of the Union Address.

Context is important. We both know this, but since it will destroy your little hatefest, you pretend to be stupid and say it does not matter.
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Even out of context, that quote doesn't sound that bad and the logical leap is a pretty big. A better thing to take out of context would be if Obama quoted someone from the McCain staff in 2008 saying something to the effect of "if we talk about the economy we're going to lose", and then someone took Obama quoting another and made a commercial with that sound byte as if it was his sentiment. But then it would take a pretty gigantic douchebag to do something like that. Someone who's such a piece of shit the likeliness of them being a major factor or frontrunner in a national race would require an entire political party to be made up of bad people. But I guess that's so unlikely we shouldn't even talk about it.
 
thraashman said:
Even out of context, that quote doesn't sound that bad and the logical leap is a pretty big. A better thing to take out of context would be if Obama quoted someone from the McCain staff in 2008 saying something to the effect of "if we talk about the economy we're going to lose", and then someone took Obama quoting another and made a commercial with that sound byte as if it was his sentiment. But then it would take a pretty gigantic douchebag to do something like that. Someone who's such a piece of shit the likeliness of them being a major factor or frontrunner in a national race would require an entire political party to be made up of bad people. But I guess that's so unlikely we shouldn't even talk about it.
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😀 :thumbsup:
 
rudder said:
Wow the hate crew is stretching it here. So she has MS and had breast cancer and is thankful to be alive.. which is more important to her than having money.

Are you people really this bitter?
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The OP isn't a Righty , I call shens. You want to see the real "Hate Crew" then checkout the Rabid responses in my threads. 😉
 
Her sentiment is a pretty completely uncontroversial one, that material wealth doesn't necessarily lead to a rich life overall.

That being said, it was incredibly stupid of her to say that she and her multi-millionaire husband aren't wealthy, no matter the context. The Romneys need to learn to stop trying to be like average people, they aren't average and they never will be. The more they try to convince people that they're one of us, the more they will enrage people.
 
Phokus said:
Hahahaha, now who's posting out of context? HE'S STILL WORTH 50 BILLION.
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Your question was not how one could lose 50 billion quickly, it was how to lose a scant 200 million quickly.

Bill Gates lost 5 billion quickly, which shows it is very possible to quickly lose a far lower amount of money.

If you wanted to ask a different question, you should have asked a different question. Do not get all butt-hurt when someone answers the actual question you asked. Simply realize you did not ask what you meant to ask and restate the question differently.


EDIT: At least you are now admitting you posted a clip which was taken out of context. This is a big step for you, and I applaud it.
 
cybrsage said:
Your question was not how one could lose 50 billion quickly, it was how to lose a scant 200 million quickly.

Bill Gates lost 5 billion quickly, which shows it is very possible to quickly lose a far lower amount of money.

If you wanted to ask a different question, you should have asked a different question. Do not get all butt-hurt when someone answers the actual question you asked. Simply realize you did not ask what you meant to ask and restate the question differently.


EDIT: At least you are now admitting you posted a clip which was taken out of context. This is a big step for you, and I applaud it.
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1) 5 billion OUT OF 50 BILLION (actually 55 billion since that's before they lost 5 billion). Are you shitting me? If the Romneys held the same stock, they wouldn't lose all their money, they'd lose a much lower amount (of the same proportion). So they'd lose 18 million in proportion to what they have.

2) Show me where i admit i posted an out of context clip? In context, she's still talking about money.
 
To her, everybody has Thoroughbred race horses, a couple of homes, some luxury vehicles, and more financial accounts than she cares to remember. Nah, not wealthy.
 
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