Ann Romney: I don't consider myself wealthy

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Linflas

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ch33zw1z

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She may not consider herself financially wealthy, that doesn't mean it's true.

She may now consider herself emotionally wealthy, and that's a positive thing.

She should keep her thoughts on personal wealth to herself...There are people who have the same ailments as her, and do not have the funds to keep up with the bills.
 

pauldun170

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The thing I've noticed in Romney's "gaffes" about his wife's two Cadillacs,

Just like to point out that the "car collection" everyone got so miffed about is a bit overblown.

Wife's car at the East coast home and West coast homes
2010 SRX
2007 SRX
Mid-high 30K car.

Romney has a 05 Mustang given to him by his son, a Pickup, a Rambler and an 85 BMW.
 

fskimospy

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Just like to point out that the "car collection" everyone got so miffed about is a bit overblown.

Wife's car at the East coast home and West coast homes
2010 SRX
2007 SRX
Mid-high 30K car.

Romney has a 05 Mustang given to him by his son, a Pickup, a Rambler and an 85 BMW.

I really don't think that pointing out the car collection that they need to go along with their home collection is a good route to take.
 

cubby1223

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The OP isn't a Righty , I call shens. You want to see the real "Hate Crew" then checkout the Rabid responses in my threads. ;)

The responses in your threads are more due to you having a general disrespect for other people. At least here in AT P&N.

Where did I say it only comes from the Right...for shits and giggles please list examples of the Left wing hate.

wow, what a wise and beautiful woman. :rolleyes:
 
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etrigan420

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Stupid open honesty....
No place in politics.

Or he could just...you know...shut the fuck up about how much more he has than the average person, unless specifically asked.

"Open honestly..."

Lulz. You have no idea how politics works.
 

a777pilot

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Who ever the final GOP candidate might be, I will not be judging that person vis-a-vis this current Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle, on their wife, their wealth, their looks, their speaking ability, or many other inconsequential qualities the MSM will be talking us to death about as this campaign gets going. I will be looking at their records and their polices and their ideas.

So, I don't pay much attention to what any of the wives might have to say.
 

Craig234

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13 seconds cut out of the middle of a paragraph?

So, provide the full context.

It is incriminating, since here following statement 'it can be here today and gone tomorrow' clearly refers to money, meaning that's what she was speaking of.

It's unlikely she was was saying she's 'not wealth in spirit'.

It's common for people to have delusions about money, as I've discussed before. Take the richest man in the country - Bill Gats - and his whole fortune wouldn't pay for a month of the US deficit. So he could feel 'not wealthy', too. How does his $50-100 billion stack up to the defense department's annual budget of several times more? he could spend all his money on 2 weeks of our deficit in spending. He's wealthy, but that'd make him feel it's not all that much.

It's common for wealthy people to think like Romney's wife - just as people who have tons of unlimited sex nad have to turn mst offers down say sex isn't that important.

It's the people who can't get sex who find sex pretty important.

A century ago, a writer said, 'the Rich are not like you and I'. He was referring to this different mentality. It doesn't make her 'bad', but it is different.

Fact is, what do you buy a man who has everything? That's what motivates a lot of the rich political candidates - it's something they don't have, a new trophy.

That's why this rich man comes across as desperate, saying whatever will help him get votes and lacking principles as he changes positions with the wind.

That's who he is, a guy who doesn't have any broad principles relevant to politics IMO, a rich guy who just wants the office. He seems addicted to the race.

And that's what we'd get if we elected him - another George Bush insofar as being a sort of figurehead who empowered the interests he supports and likes being in charge.

His wife clearly appears 'out of touch'. We can thank our political process for at least exposing that, instead of just being an advertising created image to sell her and him.

Of course, she's not running and she's not the issue - it's just yet another piece of evidence of what the Romneys are like.

The fact that at a time when the concentration of wealth has increased hugely and that's at the middle of our country's problems and he wants another big cut his and their taxes...
 

Craig234

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Are you really that blinded by your hatred that you can't tell the difference between material riches and the riches she is referring to that are obviously her life, family, and friends that would still exist if they lost all the material crap tomorrow? Pathetic.

Your reading comprehension is poor. She said she's *NOT* wealthy. It was referring to material wealth - the kind she said 'can come today and go tomorrow'.

Then she went on to talk about other types of wealth she cares about - but her not wealthy statement was money.

You're the one 'blinded by your hatred' based on ideology.
 
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Who ever the final GOP candidate might be, I will not be judging that person vis-a-vis this current Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle, on their wife, their wealth, their looks, their speaking ability, or many other inconsequential qualities the MSM will be talking us to death about as this campaign gets going. I will be looking at their records and their polices and their ideas.

So, I don't pay much attention to what any of the wives might have to say.

Unfortunately for you, it seems increasingly clear that "this current Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle," will win re-election handily, because your own party seems so intent on self-destruction. Do you think you'll just crawl back in your hole once that happens?
 

OrByte

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Are you asking this in a seriuos manner? Really? I will assume you are and answer it.

When you do not show what was said before and what was said after, you cannot know the context in which the item was said. Here is an example:

Obama said "we have fought fiercely for our beliefs. And that's a good thing". Taken out of context, I can say that Obama thinks the fight between AQ and the US is a good thing. He WANTS the death and destruction caused by this fight since it is a good thing. I could easily snag this snippet from a larger video.

Of course, taken in context, he actually said "It's no secret that those of us here tonight have had our differences over the last two years. The debates have been contentious; we have fought fiercely for our beliefs. And that's a good thing. That's what a robust democracy demands. That's what helps set us apart as a nation." as part of his 2011 State of the Union Address.

Context is important. We both know this, but since it will destroy your little hatefest, you pretend to be stupid and say it does not matter.
This quote by Ann Romney was taken out of context much like the "Clinging to guns and religion" quote from Obama was taken out of context....

...RIGHT?
 

jackstar7

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'It could be gone tomorrow' could be talking about... you know... life.

My cynicism meter broke though... so I could be wrong.
 

OrByte

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The thing I've noticed in Romney's "gaffes" about his wife's two Cadillacs, knowing NASCAR team owners, etc., is that he seems genuinely miffed that people aren't adoring him for having so much money. To him, people should be praising him for being so wealthy and performing well in the American capitalist system.

What he's missing is that talking about significant sums of wealth to a country struggling with unemployment is akin to making out with your girlfriend in front of a buddy who just got dumped. The friend usually won't tell you that you have to be single around him, but you're just making things worse for him/her by showing off, and the friend would be justified for resenting you for it.

QFT. This is the real take away from all of these "gaffes"

They aren't really gaffes at all..its just the wrong message to be sending to America at a time when so many people are struggling.
 

pauldun170

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Or he could just...you know...shut the fuck up about how much more he has than the average person, unless specifically asked.

"Open honestly..."

Lulz. You have no idea how politics works.

Absolutely no clue how it works.
I vote based on "This lil piggy" technique.
Be happy I even spelled it right.
 

Jaskalas

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please explain why her quote would elicit such a strong response

I'll explain it on his behalf.

Person is sitting on a pile on money, the size of a couch. You ask them about it. They reply 'What money? I'm not wealthy'.
 

Craig234

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Better question, do Republicans WANT Obama to win? If they nominate the pure spitting image of the 0.1%....

Don't Republicans understand the game, they're supposed to nominate actors who pretend NOT to be/represent the 0.1%, like 'rancher' and 'nookleeur' George Bush, or GE's corporate spokesman and the AMA's hired spokesman against Medicare, Ronald Reagan, who could get away with jokes attacking Democrats and spreading right-wing lies like trickle-down.
 

1prophet

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Are you really that blinded by your hatred that you can't tell the difference between material riches and the riches she is referring to that are obviously her life, family, and friends that would still exist if they lost all the material crap tomorrow? Pathetic.


When you lose that material crap is when you find out who are your true friends and family.
 

Craig234

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please explain why her quote would elicit such a strong response

While Jaskalas tried to explain with one analogy, I'll mention another - the same way Marie Antionette was attacked by claiming she had said of the poor, 'let them eat cake'.

As bad as people feel about massive inequality in a gamed system, however much they deny it when manipulated to feel guilty about it, they really hate the arrogant wealthy.

Hearing that Marie Antionette was that arrogant and uncaring about the people, they demanded and got her head cut off. (And she didn't actually say her quote).
 

Thump553

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I'd like to know how Romney's 200+ million is at risk of being 'gone tomorrow'.

One of the (formerly) richest guys in Russia is now in prison, having been stripped of all his assets on charges most outside observoes believe to be mostly trumped up. His real crime-standing up to Putin's government.

That's not to say the Romneys are realistically facing a similar outcome, but I think her point was now that we've acheived financial comfortableness there are other, intangible things I treasure more.

But until the Romneys pull a Gates or Buffett and give away nearly all their fortune (as opposed to passing it to the kids by manipulating the tax code, as the Romneys have already done) then I place a bit more creedence in what Mrs. Romney professes.
 

senseamp

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I agree with her that health is "wealth" and the country would be more "wealthy" overall if everyone had access to good health care instead of having more money concentrated at the top.