Ann Romney: I don't consider myself wealthy

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Jaskalas

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Don't Republicans understand the game, they're supposed to nominate actors who pretend NOT to be/represent the 0.1%, like 'rancher' and 'nookleeur' George Bush, or GE's corporate spokesman and the AMA's hired spokesman against Medicare, Ronald Reagan, who could get away with jokes attacking Democrats and spreading right-wing lies like trickle-down.

You should have understood with Bush. His nomination was about buying votes with taxpayer money. 'Compassionate conservatism' means we'll grow government and dole out the money, you don't need the Democrats we can do it too! It's about besting you at your own policy by cutting the difference between us.

That was the Bush Presidency, and why his betrayal of conservatism ran so deep.

The nominations of McCain and Romney are the continuation of that policy. They're obviously not concerned with their own image, the Republicans are marching to the beat of 'electability'. They see a Massachutees moderate and see 'winning one for the team'. They are too busy betraying us on policy to look at the image of the men they're nominating.

You can consider Bush's 'rancher' image to be a fluke. Either that or he was the smartest among these men. Heh, imagine that.
 

Paul98

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She is seriously out of touch, even in context. It's when you never have to worry about money, putting food on the plate, getting health care,... that you no longer have to think about money. When you no longer have to think about money you can make statements like that. If money doesn't matter wealth becomes what you can't buy.

In the context that most normal people think in she is very wealthy. This is why she is out of touch.
 

Throckmorton

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What is it with these people saying they don't consider themselves rich, and then saying wealth is about your friends and family all that nonsense? First of all, if that's really what you consider to be wealth, and you love your friends and family, you ARE wealthy. Second of all, that's not what wealth is... And being "here today, gone tomorrow" doesn't really apply when you have $250 million. You aren't ever going to be poor. Oh, so you had cancer? There are poor people with cancer who can't even afford treatment.
 

hal2kilo

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Unfortunately for you, it seems increasingly clear that "this current Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle," will win re-election handily, because your own party seems so intent on self-destruction. Do you think you'll just crawl back in your hole once that happens?

We should be so lucky.
 

Perknose

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Are you asking this in a seriuos manner? Really? I will assume you are and answer it.

Obama said "we have fought fiercely for our beliefs. And that's a good thing". Taken out of context, I can say that Obama thinks the fight between AQ and the US is a good thing. He WANTS the death and destruction caused by this fight since it is a good thing.

No, you can't say that from what he said about fighting for your beliefs.

You're so full of shite you no longer notice the smell.
 

Perknose

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Her sentiment is a pretty completely uncontroversial one, that material wealth doesn't necessarily lead to a rich life overall.

That being said, it was incredibly stupid of her to say that she and her multi-millionaire husband aren't wealthy, no matter the context. The Romneys need to learn to stop trying to be like average people, they aren't average and they never will be. The more they try to convince people that they're one of us, the more they will enrage people.

This, exactly this. She shows herself to be brutally out of touch with the dire economic struggles of millions upon millions of Americans.

It is extremely revealing about the cocoon of economic privilege she is wrapped up in.
 

Craig234

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You should have understood with Bush. His nomination was about buying votes with taxpayer money. 'Compassionate conservatism' means we'll grow government and dole out the money, you don't need the Democrats we can do it too! It's about besting you at your own policy by cutting the difference between us.

That was the Bush Presidency, and why his betrayal of conservatism ran so deep.

No, it was because his 'conservatism' when it's defined as 'choosing policies that support the rich while cutting policies good for everyone else' was being found to be getting him opposition, and so the marketers had him start talking 'compassionate conservatism' to appear more concerned about the American people - the actor again.

It would be like Romney talking how much he cares about the poor. Acting.

The nominations of McCain and Romney are the continuation of that policy. They're obviously not concerned with their own image, the Republicans are marching to the beat of 'electability'. They see a Massachutees moderate and see 'winning one for the team'. They are too busy betraying us on policy to look at the image of the men they're nominating.

You appear to still be confused about the difference between 'conservatism' and simply policies for the rich at the expense of everyone else.

You can consider Bush's 'rancher' image to be a fluke. Either that or he was the smartest among these men. Heh, imagine that.

Consider it a fluke? Let's remind you of the history.

He campaigned for his father for Congress, and his Texan competitor accurately campaigned against his father by pointing out he wasn't a 'real Texan'.

He correctly pained Bush's father as a 'New England elitist' - and Bush's father lost. He said at the time he was determined his family would not lose for not being real Texans again.

And that was the start of manufacturing the advertising image of being 'real Texans'.

So things like forced mispronunciation of 'Nookleeur' were political tactics, like Liberals said.

Leading up to the 2000 presidential campaign, Bush bought that ranch. It had plenty of cows - that Bush didn't own, but were owned by the previous ranch owner, who stayed on as ranch manager. Bush owned a total of the two cows given to him by his staff in 1999 and their calf.

There was a rundown home used for photographing the ranch - which isn't where Bush actually stayed on the ranch, his actual residence more hidden without the press.

The political ally who helped Bush purchase the ranch, the former Texas Secretary of State, made a point of saying 'this isn't image, it's all about his wanting a ranch'.

He did protest too much IMO.

When the Bush presidency ended, he bought a house in Dallas (though he kept the ranch also).

IMO, the 'ranch' was likely primarily for that image in the tried and true political image lessons he'd learned. He likes it - many people wouldn't mind having one - not the issue.

Issue was - as even that ally noted - the ranch was a big political boost for him. Just like Clydesdale horses are for Budweiser and Stagecoaches are for Wells Fargo.
 

a777pilot

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Unfortunately for you, it seems increasingly clear that "this current Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle," will win re-election handily, because your own party seems so intent on self-destruction. Do you think you'll just crawl back in your hole once that happens?

I understand He might win a second term and I also understand it is because of the 22d Amendment.

I have been campaigning for the repeal of the 22d Amendment since 1972. I think I am making progress. Slow, but still, progress.

Repeal the 22d Amendment, today......Now!

I don't live in a hole.....OK, I do spend a lot of time in my basement, but I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
 

fskimospy

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I understand He might win a second term and I also understand it is because of the 22d Amendment.

I have been campaigning for the repeal of the 22d Amendment since 1972. I think I am making progress. Slow, but still, progress.

Repeal the 22d Amendment, today......Now!

I don't live in a hole.....OK, I do spend a lot of time in my basement, but I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

You think Obama will win a second term because of the amendment that prohibits him from running for a third?
 
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does it really matter if the wife of a potential president understands your pain?
Hell...Michelle Obama wore a pair of $540 sneakers during a trip to a food bank. But hey...I'm sure she understood their pain...totally in touch with the dire economic struggles of millions upon millions of Americans

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feralkid

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I understand He might win a second term and I also understand it is because of the 22d Amendment.

I have been campaigning for the repeal of the 22d Amendment since 1972. I think I am making progress. Slow, but still, progress.

Repeal the 22d Amendment, today......Now!

I don't live in a hole.....OK, I do spend a lot of time in my basement, but I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

It's good that you support and defend what YOU'RE TRYING TO REPEAL.

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cybrsage

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No, you can't say that from what he said about fighting for your beliefs.

I just did. You really like being wrong, don't you?

Things taken out of context can be made to say a great many things they were never intended to be used to say. It is not right, which is the point of my post, but it surely can be done (and is done quite often).

I am surpsied you do not know this.

You're so full of shite you no longer notice the smell.

Actually, that is you. You stepped in dog crap this morning. It is pretty stinky, you really should scrape it off. No, not with your hand...oh man, that is gross....no dont lick your hand clean....ugh! You are disgusting.
 

cybrsage

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This, exactly this. She shows herself to be brutally out of touch with the dire economic struggles of millions upon millions of Americans.

No, you can't say that!!!

Did it work, does typing that magically make what I say correct, even though it is obvious you CAN say that?

No? I did not think so, but since you expected it to magically work for you, I thought I would test it out.

Oh, and as an aside, you left a little of the dog poop on your mouth after you licked your hand clean. A little more to the left..no, your other left...there, you got it.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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And that was the start of manufacturing the advertising image of being 'real Texans'.

So things like forced mispronunciation of 'Nookleeur' were political tactics, like Liberals said.

You're pretty much confirming to us that Bush, if he manufactured that image, is smarter than Romney.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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You're pretty much confirming to us that Bush, if he manufactured that image, is smarter than Romney.

Oh, I think Bush was quite savy politically, but he lacked a certain curiosity about the world about him in general.
 

PingviN

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Hell...Michelle Obama wore a pair of $540 sneakers during a trip to a food bank. But hey...I'm sure she understood their pain...totally in touch with the dire economic struggles of millions upon millions of Americans

I don't think anyone is claiming you are not allowed to be wealthy or buy expensive shoes. I think you're missing the point here.

Thing is, claiming you're not wealthy (taken out of context or not) when you pull the kinda money the Romneys do is naturally going to upset people. Don't they have access to pr-people that are able to tell them to cut this stupid "talk first think later" crap?
 

boomerang

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR4aXOth9hQ&feature=player_embedded

Nine figures in wealth: Not wealthy? What planet do these people live on? Do the Romneys WANT Obama to win?
I see your Ann Romney and raise you an Elizabeth Warren you partisan hack.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/mil...a-wealthy-individual-who-owns-a-lot-of-stock/

“I realize there are some wealthy individuals – I’m not one of them, but some wealthy individuals who have a lot of stock portfolios,“ Warren said on ”The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell.”

The issue with that statement is that Warren — who’s running against Republican Scott Brown — could be worth as much as $14.5 million, Buzzfeed pointed out. Financial disclosure forms show she and her husband own between $100,001 and $250,000 of IBM stock, and between $2.8 million and $7.9 million in TIAA-CREF funds, the Boston Globe reported. A Harvard professor, Warren earned about $700,000 last year, including book royalties and consulting fees, and lives in a house worth $5 million.
 
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Jhhnn

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She is seriously out of touch, even in context. It's when you never have to worry about money, putting food on the plate, getting health care,... that you no longer have to think about money. When you no longer have to think about money you can make statements like that. If money doesn't matter wealth becomes what you can't buy.

In the context that most normal people think in she is very wealthy. This is why she is out of touch.

The most intelligent comment in the whole thread.

With proper investment strategy, it's impossible to lose a fortune of $250M. If the Romneys lost half, it wouldn't affect their lifestyle in the slightest, nor would doubling it, either. It doesn't make any difference if they pay 15% in federal income tax, or 35%. On a day to day basis, even living very well, money is nearly meaningless, which is the true definition of Wealth. It's like McCain not knowing how many homes they own, the kind of car he's chauffeured around in, or the price of gas.

It's two Americas, with an ever widening gulf between them.
 

nageov3t

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The most intelligent comment in the whole thread.

With proper investment strategy, it's impossible to lose a fortune of $250M. If the Romneys lost half, it wouldn't affect their lifestyle in the slightest, nor would doubling it, either. It doesn't make any difference if they pay 15% in federal income tax, or 35%. On a day to day basis, even living very well, money is nearly meaningless, which is the true definition of Wealth. It's like McCain not knowing how many homes they own, the kind of car he's chauffeured around in, or the price of gas.

It's two Americas, with an ever widening gulf between them.
she's a woman in a Mormon household... do you really think she has any clue how her family's finances are setup?
 

Jhhnn

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she's a woman in a Mormon household... do you really think she has any clue how her family's finances are setup?

Where I grew up, in southern Colorado, Mormons have a fairly strong community. Of the Mormon families I've known, it was the women who ran the household itself & kept the books. Not that they didn't defer to their husbands over expenditures, but they knew damned well where every dime went.

If she's disconnected from that, it's because her family is wealthy, because she doesn't have to pay attention, not because they're Mormon.
 

a777pilot

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The most intelligent comment in the whole thread.

With proper investment strategy, it's impossible to lose a fortune of $250M. If the Romneys lost half, it wouldn't affect their lifestyle in the slightest, nor would doubling it, either. It doesn't make any difference if they pay 15% in federal income tax, or 35%. On a day to day basis, even living very well, money is nearly meaningless, which is the true definition of Wealth. It's like McCain not knowing how many homes they own, the kind of car he's chauffeured around in, or the price of gas.

It's two Americas, with an ever widening gulf between them.

This woman, Mrs. Romney, has MS. Please explain to me how all her money solves that little problem.