Ann Coulter attacks Cleland, says he is no Hero as he blew himself up in Vietnam

[dmcowen674]

2-15-2004 Cleland Responds to Coulter Attack

Coulter, in a column published this week, said that Cleland, who lost both legs and an arm in Vietnam, is no war hero, but rather a victim of a tragic, accidental grenade explosion who plays up his amputations for political gain.

?If Cleland had dropped a grenade on himself at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. Senator in the first place. Maybe he?d be the best pharmacist in Atlanta,? Coulter said in her column, published on February 11.

?He didn?t ?give his limbs for his country,? or leave them ?on the battlefield,? Coulter said. ?There was no bravery involved in dropping the grenade on himself with no enemy troops in sight.

In fact, Cleland was wounded picking up a grenade that someone else dropped, during what he says was a combat mission.

 

[burnedout]

Coulter was out of line when she made those idiotic comments and should apologize immediately.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

I never thought I would say it . . . Coulter has unlimited talent.

 

[dmcowen674]

More from Ann Coulter's column:

"Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine noncombat mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. In fact, Cleland could have dropped a grenade on his foot as a National Guardsman ?- or what Cleland sneeringly calls "weekend warriors." Luckily for Cleland's political career and current pomposity about Bush, he happened to do it while in Vietnam."

Indeed, if Cleland had dropped a grenade on himself at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. senator in the first place. Maybe he'd be the best pharmacist in Atlanta, but not a U.S. senator. He got into office on the basis of serving in Vietnam and was thrown out for his performance as a senator.

Cleland wore the uniform, he was in Vietnam, and he has shown courage by going on to lead a productive life. But he didn't "give his limbs for his country," or leave them "on the battlefield." There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on himself with no enemy troops in sight. That could have happened in the Texas National Guard -- which Cleland denigrates while demanding his own sanctification.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

So who served for the source of Coulter's info? I'm willing to reserve judgment b/c it's always possible she's telling the truth for a change. If Cleland was drinking beer with the boys and fumbled with a grenade . . . that's a very different context from a combat injury. Granted, it's still a stretch to compare that to Bush's tour of duty in TX and AL. I give Bush credit for realizing being high and/or drunk is incompatible with flying aircraft.

 

[Jhhnn]

Once again, Coulter reveals herself as the Chupacabra...

 

[Dari]

That's a terrible thing to say. That b!tched needs to be muzzled.

 

[Insane3D]

I bet she has a future in the WWE...

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: Dari
That's a terrible thing to say. That b!tched needs to be muzzled.

agreed

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
So who served for the source of Coulter's info? I'm willing to reserve judgment b/c it's always possible she's telling the truth for a change. If Cleland was drinking beer with the boys and fumbled with a grenade . . . that's a very different context from a combat injury. Granted, it's still a stretch to compare that to Bush's tour of duty in TX and AL. I give Bush credit for realizing being high and/or drunk is incompatible with flying aircraft.

You are learning from her very well I see.

 

[SNC]

Yes we should silence any one that we disagree with, or says things that are off the wall.
The nerve of some people to speak there mind. But what will you do if it turns out to be true?

 

[busmaster11]

Originally posted by: SNC
Yes we should silence any one that we disagree with, or says things that are off the wall.
The nerve of some people to speak there mind. But what will you do if it turns out to be true?

Coulter has a history of drawing conclusions and giving opinions that are borderline nazi and reflect the ugliest of the religious far right. Even the neocons want her to shut up.

Nice of you to be objective though. But try harder next time.

 

[Romans828]

Originally posted by: Dari
That's a terrible thing to say. That b!tched needs to be muzzled.

So much for the liberal "free speech " rhetoric

Free speech only if you agree with us.........

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: Dari
That's a terrible thing to say. That b!tched needs to be muzzled.

So much for the liberal "free speech " rhetoric

Free speech only if you agree with us.........

Maybe you should spend a few weeks reading people's posts before you start labeling them, because Dari's not a liberal.

 

[chess9]

Ann Coulter is a creative writer with a trenchant wit, but no conscience. She is the ultimate neo-con. The ends justify the means. Her theses are always front end loaded with hyperbole, lies, and venom. She will not hesitate to stoop lower than her enemy but if she looked like Roseanne she wouldn't get any notice.

When some barbarian quotes Ann Coulter, you know he would probably eat his own children.

Anyway, even the conservatives have finally realized what she is-a festering sore on the body politic.

-Robert

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: Dari
That's a terrible thing to say. That b!tched needs to be muzzled.

So much for the liberal "free speech " rhetoric

Free speech only if you agree with us.........

I doubt Dari meant that when he said 'muzzled'. Oh by the way, Dari isn't a liberal if I remember correctly. Stop trying to pick fights.

 

[Aegion]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: Dari
That's a terrible thing to say. That b!tched needs to be muzzled.

So much for the liberal "free speech " rhetoric

Free speech only if you agree with us.........

Actually this is presumably slander, and therefore makes Clouter liable for civil penalties as well as criminal ones in some states. If Celand wants to pursue this, all he needs to do is demonstrate that Clouter's statement is false and she knew the statement was likely to be false when she made it in order to go after her.

 

[nutxo]

Blah blah blah NEOCON! NEO CON NEO CON NEO CON! Blah blah blah NEOCON! NEO CON NEO CON NEO CON! Blah blah blah NEOCON! NEO CON NEO CON NEO CON! Blah blah blah NEOCON! NEO CON NEO CON NEO CON! Blah blah blah NEOCON! NEO CON NEO CON NEO CON! Blah blah blah NEOCON! NEO CON NEO CON NEO CON! Blah blah blah NEOCON! NEO CON NEO CON NEO CON! Blah blah blah NEOCON! NEO CON NEO CON NEO CON!

Coulter is not a neocon, she is an extremist writer. She writes what sells. Neocons are democrats.

 

[Corn]

Actually this is presumably slander, and therefore makes Clouter liable for civil penalties as well as criminal ones in some states.

While I agree Coulter is out of line, you obviously don't have a clue. LOL, you weenies crack me up sometimes.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: nutxo
Neocons are democrats.

Not exactly.

From Websters

1 entry found for neoconservative.
ne·o·con·ser·va·tism also ne·o-con·ser·va·tism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-kn-sûrv-tzm)
n.
An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s: ?The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s? (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).

 

[Red Dawn]

Hey it's Ann Coulter, what else would you'd expect from that caliber of a person? Anybody who needs to attack her credibility from now on only needs to link her to that quote.

What that C*** doesn't understand is that every soldier whether in a Fox Hole or doing support in a area where there is hostilities is a hero. What she quoted is like spitting on a returning veteran!

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey it's Ann Coulter, what else would you'd expect from that caliber of a person? Anybody who needs to attack her credibility from now on only needs to link her to that quote.

What that C*** doesn't understand is that every soldier whether in a Fox Hole or doing support in a area where there is hostilities is a hero. What she quoted is like spitting on a returning veteran!

Exactly. No different than some retard attacking Kerry because he decided his wounds weren't very severe.

 

[SuperTool]

If somebody dropped a grenade on that b!tch, maybe that would make her shut up.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: Romans828

Originally posted by: Dari
That's a terrible thing to say. That b!tched needs to be muzzled.

So much for the liberal "free speech " rhetoric

Free speech only if you agree with us.........

This is a freak that wrote in one of her book that liberals and anyone else that did not agree with her politics should be rounded up and killed. While I am happy to give her the right to voice her own opinions; Ann does make all conservatives look very bad with her ranting, self-serving columns and books. Also being that this freak never served in any major conflict I think that she has no right to attack a war veteran in such a fashion.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: nutxo
Neocons are democrats.

Not exactly.

From Websters

1 entry found for neoconservative.
ne·o·con·ser·va·tism also ne·o-con·ser·va·tism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-kn-sûrv-tzm)
n.
An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s: ?The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s? (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).

Of course it fails to mention that these neo-conservatives are all about big goverment and goverment spending. The major leaders and founders of this movement were all ex-liberals who believed that we needed a stronger more aggressive foriegn policy but that one should be more then happy to give more rights and powers to big goverment. They also believed that personal freedoms and privacy were things that just got in the way of creating a effecient big goverment.