Angry Woman vs Bike

[IHateMyJob2004]

Bikes don't do well in traffic, nor do bikers.

Lane splitting is safe and I've found no problems with it, IF the populace is intelligent enough to withhold their caveman instincts and not care if a motorcyclist gets there before them.

That's all your post is really about... Your teensy caveman brain isn't capable of sitting in traffic while someone gets there before you. I suggest trying to grow up a bit, you know, develop.. before sitting behind the wheel of your vehicle.


I would actually contend that lane splitting is safer than sitting between 4000lb in stop and go traffic.

So, what you are saying is that humans have a psycologically disposition that this behavior is in one's best interest. So, it is reactionary rather than thought out. Knowing this, you still think lane splitting is smart? Or do you live in an illusionary world where 100% of the populace thinks rationally and is able to act against psycological dispositions 100% of the time?

 

[rpsgc]

Bikers are assholes... nothing new here.

 

[Triumph]

wtf does that have to do with what he posted? Have you even read the thread?

i can play your game too. so let's see, you probably went to mexico on spring break or maybe went canada and consider yourself a world traveler now?

Because he's a clod and so are you, the title of the video page clearly states it happens in Brazil, where lane splitting is most likely legal. As it is in most parts of the world, which anyone who has traveled outside of the US would likely notice.

OMG look at all these motorcycles not letting the cars get through! Don't they know that lane splitting is illegal????

 

[Doppel]

They both cray. He stepped it up by kicking her car, she did by trying to run him over.

 

[God Mode]

Attitudes about lane splitting like this are completely ignorant, selfish, and just plain retarded. All it boils down to is simple jealousy. You're stuck in traffic, so you want everyone else to be stuck in it, too. People try to justify this idiocy by saying that motorcyclists or bicyclists are "cutting in line". That would only be true if their actions increased traffic or added time to everyone else's commute. Which is doesn't. So you might as well project your attitude onto the people on the sidewalk as well, since it's just as applicable and just as retarded. After all, who do they think they are, passing you in your car.

Nah. From what I see, bikes tend to weave in an out like a maniac in dense traffic and I see the entire row of cars on the highway brake and try hard to avoid these sudden obstacles.

I want to concentrate on the cars in front of me and get to my destination without worrying about a bike splitting lanes with my car squeezing by. Its all perspective.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Nah. From what I see, bikes tend to weave in an out like a maniac in dense traffic and I see the entire row of cars on the highway brake and try hard to avoid these sudden obstacles.

I want to concentrate on the cars in front of me and get to my destination without worrying about a bike splitting lanes with my car squeezing by. Its all perspective.

You don't have to worry about it. Just be aware that there might be bikes sharing your lane and don't move over without first knowing what is there (which you should be doing anyway). There is nothing extra that the driver of a car/truck/stupid useless vehicle needs to do in response to motorcyclists lane splitting that they shouldn't already be doing while piloting 2 tons of steel down the road.

If you're driving straight, keep driving straight. If you're going to change lanes, check to make sure there are no bikes next to you before moving over (actually using your turn indicators is a good idea too).

 

[slayer202]

Does the video show the driver?

He kicks your cage, you respond by trying to run him over with your 2 ton mass of steel, then try to crush him...


Edit: Wow on the comments from the video and even OP. Property damage inot trying to get into your car and harm the person) is now worth taking someone's life over...

Remember, this is ATOT. The general consensus is the exact opposite of that common sense you used

 

[Squisher]

Lane splitting should be illegal everywhere.

 

[lowrider69]

Two morons. I had to laugh when she rammed the bike and you hear him hitting the throttle while he's laying on the ground with the bike.

 

[Ichinisan]

They both cray. He stepped it up by kicking her car, she did by trying to run him over.

She tried to run him over BEFORE he kicked the SUV, then again after.

 

[Ichinisan]

Two morons. I had to laugh when she rammed the bike and you hear him hitting the throttle while he's laying on the ground with the bike.

That's because the handle/throttle is all he could hold onto.

 

[Raduque]

I would actually contend that lane splitting is safer than sitting between 4000lb in stop and go traffic.

Nobody is gonna open a door into me while I stupidly ride up between stopped cars, if I'm sitting in my 5400lb pickup. ()

BTW, I approve of neither person's behavior. I also dislike lane splitting simply based on the fact that it's a rage-inducing behavior for a lot of people.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Lane splitting should be illegal everywhere.

Why?

Keep in mind that, "Because I'm a stupid selfish American" isn't a valid reason.

 

[unokitty]

That's a sad video. Plenty of fail to go around...

One of the really nice things about living in Japan (Okinawa, 42 years ago) was that I could drive down the middle of the road and cars on both sides would give me space.

One of my favourite roads ran along the East China Sea. The road was cut out of a rock hillside. Going north, rocks on the right, drop off to the Sea on the left.

They even had convex mirrors at the apex of the turns so you could see if you had any oncoming traffic.

Driving it late afternoon with the sun reflecting off of the sea was a thrill.

Uno

 

[Squisher]

Why?

Keep in mind that, "Because I'm a stupid selfish American" isn't a valid reason.

It is an unnecessary hazard for both cars and bikes.

It incorporates a speed differential into traffic that wouldn't be there without it.

I'm trying to move over to the right to exit the freeway, I not only have to plan a move into an open spot if traffic is slowed, but now I have to do it through a gauntlet of faster moving traffic between the lanes. This shouldn't be like a real life game of frogger.

My car has stalled and I now need to exit the vehicle to see if I can fix it, but again a gauntlet of inbetweeners is making it a near death experience.

My turn signal breaks, I decide to use a hand signal, so I stick my arm out to the left to signal and have my arm removed by someone using the road not as it was intended.

Try not responding that, "I'm a stupid selfish squid too impatient to keep pace with the rest of the traffic"

 

[Triumph]

It is an unnecessary hazard for both cars and bikes.

It incorporates a speed differential into traffic that wouldn't be there without it.

I'm trying to move over to the right to exit the freeway, I not only have to plan a move into an open spot if traffic is slowed, but now I have to do it through a gauntlet of faster moving traffic between the lanes. This shouldn't be like a real life game of frogger.

My car has stalled and I now need to exit the vehicle to see if I can fix it, but again a gauntlet of inbetweeners is making it a near death experience.

My turn signal breaks, I decide to use a hand signal, so I stick my arm out to the left to signal and have my arm removed by someone using the road not as it was intended.

Try not responding that, "I'm a stupid selfish squid too impatient to keep pace with the rest of the traffic"

Well since it seems to work pretty well in the other 75% of the world, I guess you're just admitting to not being a good enough driver to handle it.

 

[pcgeek11]

Brazil....(as in: watch the video again...and travel a bit)


uh, and CA isn't actually the only exception. Read what you posted, lol.

I've been more places accidentally than you have been on purpose in my 20 years in the Navy. OK.

I did read what I posted. CA is the only state in the US that has Official Statements that makes it legal. The remaining states rely on existing laws that makes it an illegal act.

California has no laws explicitly prohibiting lane splitting, and is the only U.S. state for which official statements state that lane splitting, when done safely, is legal.

Edit: I do not agree with what the driver of the car did in response to the biker. However I do agree with Squisher that the lane splitting act adds a lot more danger to driving on a crowded interstate. The attitude of most bikers I have met and know is that car drivers owe them the road and we should all bow to their greatness. It has also been shown to be true in this thread. Just because it is accepted in other countries doesn't make it a safe practice. In India it is an accepted practice to load 5000 people on a ferry designed to hold 1000. That is why they have so many over turn and drown 1000s.

 

[Drako]

Hormones.

Deal with them!

edit: And drugs/alcohol - toxic mix.

 

[disappoint]

Bikers are assholes... nothing new here.

And some women are bitches, put the two together the outcome is stitches.

All he did was kick her quarter panel. There wasn't even any damage that you can see from that video. She attempted to kill him.

 

[JulesMaximus]

It is an unnecessary hazard for both cars and bikes.

It incorporates a speed differential into traffic that wouldn't be there without it.

I'm trying to move over to the right to exit the freeway, I not only have to plan a move into an open spot if traffic is slowed, but now I have to do it through a gauntlet of faster moving traffic between the lanes. This shouldn't be like a real life game of frogger.

My car has stalled and I now need to exit the vehicle to see if I can fix it, but again a gauntlet of inbetweeners is making it a near death experience.

My turn signal breaks, I decide to use a hand signal, so I stick my arm out to the left to signal and have my arm removed by someone using the road not as it was intended.

Try not responding that, "I'm a stupid selfish squid too impatient to keep pace with the rest of the traffic"

FACT: You are wrong.

I drive most days and have been driving in CA for more than 2 decades living with lane sharing and I've never ever once experienced or even heard of a situation like you've described.

Are there idiot squids? Yes. But most motorcyclists lane split at a prudent speed and any moron capable of operating a car should be cognizant enough to be aware of their presence... should be anyway. I actually move over and give motorcyclists more room when I'm in the cage. I recommend this approach for all motorists. It promotes better relations and makes you less of a dickhead (not you personally, motorists in general).

 

[Squisher]

FACT: You are wrong.

I drive most days and have been driving in CA for more than 2 decades living with lane sharing and I've never ever once experienced or even heard of a situation like you've described.

Are there idiot squids? Yes. But most motorcyclists lane split at a prudent speed and any moron capable of operating a car should be cognizant enough to be aware of their presence... should be anyway. I actually move over and give motorcyclists more room when I'm in the cage. I recommend this approach for all motorists. It promotes better relations and makes you less of a dickhead.

I hope why you're moving over to accommodate the lane splitter passing on the left that another lane splitter passing on the right is not taken out by your maneuver. With all these people moving left and right within their lanes to accommodate the lane splitters does anybody have a chance to reasonably predict anyone's intentions as they see them weaving back and forth? You really don't see the potential for accidents when you take the space established for a four lane expressway and put three more lanes of traffic between the existing lanes especially when that traffic is traveling at a higher rate of speed?

 

[JulesMaximus]

I hope why you're moving over to accommodate the lane splitter passing on the left that another lane splitter passing on the right is not taken out by your maneuver. With all these people moving left and right within their lanes to accommodate the lane splitters does anybody have a chance to reasonably predict anyone's intentions as they see them weaving back and forth?

Typically, lane splitting/sharing occurs between the left most lane and the lane to the right of it (number 1 and 2 lanes). When I'm moving over to make room it is into the center divider. You're on your own in the other lanes. I'll just keep my ground in that situation. It's really not that difficult.

You really don't see the potential for accidents when you take the space established for a four lane expressway and put three more lanes of traffic between the existing lanes especially when that traffic is traveling at a higher rate of speed?

No, I don't. I've lived and driven in SoCal for 22 years and I've never seen any studies that show lane splitting to be more dangerous than just being another vehicle in the line of traffic. In fact, there have been studies that have shown lane splitting to be safer.

 

[Drako]

No, I don't. I've lived and driven in SoCal for 22 years and I've never seen any studies that show lane splitting to be more dangerous than just being another vehicle in the line of traffic. In fact, there have been studies that have shown lane splitting to be safer.

Seriously? In stop and go traffic that cannot be true.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Someone did that to my car, and they'd get their ass kicked. I'd have done the same thing. But I would have gotten out of hte car and followed up with a shit beating.

 

[edro]

That video raised my heart rate.
Push came to shove real quick.