Angry protesters descend on mosque

[yllus]

Yes, bigots should get the right to take away the rights of those they're bigoted against. If something will upset them, by the people having rights that they don't want to have them, that's grounds for taking away those rights, and the people who lose them to be called rude attackers who just want to bait the bigots as their motive. The bastards.

I support the backers of the mosque's right to build wherever they can get a permit, but I think it's unnecessarily provocative and likely to stir up greater anti-Islamic sentiment in a city that has recently suffered an incredible emotional shock from an attack by supposed members of that religion. A reasonable mind comprehends that.

 

[Anarchist420]

I don't see why private property rights aren't respected.

 

[Fingolfin269]

How do they know they are right-wing?

 

[Rainsford]

I support the backers of the mosque's right to build wherever they can get a permit, but I think it's unnecessarily provocative and likely to stir up greater anti-Islamic sentiment in a city that has recently suffered an incredible emotional shock from an attack by supposed members of that religion. A reasonable mind comprehends that.

I notice that many people seem very eager to speak for New Yorkers. Asking actual New Yorkers about it seems to yield less than overwhelming opposition.

 

[xj0hnx]

I notice that many people seem very eager to speak for New Yorkers. Asking actual New Yorkers about it seems to yield less than overwhelming opposition.

New Yorkers were the only ones effected by 9/11?

 

[Rainsford]

New Yorkers were the only ones effected by 9/11?

Well, since yllus specifically mentioned New York, yeah, that's what I was responding too...

But since you bring it up, no, I don't think New Yorkers were the only ones affected by 9/11. Following that logic, however, means there are many, MANY people who were affected by 9/11 who AREN'T getting their panties in a bunch over a Muslim community center a few blocks from where the attacks took place. And I think that fact is being fairly well ignored in this debate...

 

[xj0hnx]

Well, since yllus specifically mentioned New York, yeah, that's what I was responding too...

But since you bring it up, no, I don't think New Yorkers were the only ones affected by 9/11. Following that logic, however, means there are many, MANY people who were affected by 9/11 who AREN'T getting their panties in a bunch over a Muslim community center a few blocks from where the attacks took place. And I think that fact is being fairly well ignored in this debate...

Really? Have they polled the nation? Most polls I have seen are overwhelmingly against it.

 

[Rainsford]

Really? Have they polled the nation? Most polls I have seen are overwhelmingly against it.

According to a recent Fox News poll, 64% don't think it's "appropriate" to build a Muslim community center there. A large majority, but there still exists a large number of Americans who think it's fine.

However, 61% say that the group should have a RIGHT to build the community center at the site, which is a large majority of favor of allowing them to go ahead with the construction, regardless of their personal beliefs. In other words, about half of the people who don't LIKE the center being built there don't think that should matter in whether or not the group is allowed to build it.

Those numbers don't exactly back you up...

 

[Robor]

Really? Have they polled the nation? Most polls I have seen are overwhelmingly against it.

Who cares what polls say? Either it's legal or it isn't. It really is that simple.

 

[Rainsford]

Who cares what polls say? Either it's legal or it isn't. It really is that simple.

I find it vaguely reassuring that according to the poll I found, while a majority may not like it, a majority also don't think that alone is enough to mean it's illegal.

I also find it disturbing as hell that a significant minority think that their like or dislike for something is the same as whether or not is should be legal.

 

[caddlad]

I also find it disturbing as hell that a significant minority think that their like or dislike for something is the same as whether or not is should be legal.

The minority doesn't, the courts do. The minority happens to be circumspect, and anticipate the likely outcome of a legal challenge.

 

[xj0hnx]

I also find it disturbing as hell that a significant minority think that their like or dislike for something is the same as whether or not is should be legal.

Like gay marriage?

 

[feralkid]

Muslims aren't ordinary people. They're following an archaic religion from the stone ages and deep down inside they all want to kill infidels.

Islam came about after Christianity, you boob.

 

[caddlad]

Like gay marriage?

Not for myself, thanks. Others might appreciate their rights, though.

 

[Robor]

Like gay marriage?

Sorta but I'm pretty sure gay marriage is less popular than a mosque two blocks from ground zero. Sadly. Screw equal rights! :\

 

[xj0hnx]

Sorta but I'm pretty sure gay marriage is less popular than a mosque two blocks from ground zero. Sadly. Screw equal rights! :\

I'd bet gay marriage is more popular, but then I am an agnostic that leans more atheist and the thought of less church's in general is a good thing.

 

[Robor]

I'd bet gay marriage is more popular, but then I am an agnostic that leans more atheist and the thought of less church's in general is a good thing.

Hehe... We definitely agree on the latter! :thumbsup:

 

[squirrel dog]

Gee, why isn't there a women or a child strapped with explosives all up in that mosque? Oh wait this is America .