Angiogram, Angioplasty. Please help very scared. UPDATE!!!! OMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!!!

[getbush]

My GF was having shest pains for a week and she went in for tests and everything was perfectly normal. She's 20 and 112lbs... They chalked it up to costochondritis. That's a fancy word that means your rib cartilage is inflamed take motrin be happy.

Oh and a quick notes about heart stents, which you don't need anyway. One of my classmate's grandfathers holds the record at St. Joseph's hospital for number of stent procedures. The guy is like 70-80, and has had 50-75 stent procedures. He never adjusted his diet or lifestyle.

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Aren't you on dialysis?

Yeap 11+ years.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Aren't you on dialysis?

Yeap 11+ years.

Being a renal guy, the chest pain might be due to your CRF (assuming that's why you're on dialysis), or you could look into uremic pericarditis. Just my thoughts.

 

[Kishan]

I'm glad you're ok-good luck and continue to get better
Kishan

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Aren't you on dialysis?

Yeap 11+ years.

Being a renal guy, the chest pain might be due to your CRF (assuming that's why you're on dialysis), or you could look into uremic pericarditis. Just my thoughts.

Well, CRF won't cause chest pain unless it is from a condition caused from ESRD (End Stage Renal Disease) such as CHF or CAD (Congestive Heart Failure, Coronary Artery Disease) and I have neither of those. As for Uremic Pericarditis If I had that I would have a fever as well and I have not had a fever for a long time. Any other ideas?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Aren't you on dialysis?

Yeap 11+ years.

Being a renal guy, the chest pain might be due to your CRF (assuming that's why you're on dialysis), or you could look into uremic pericarditis. Just my thoughts.

Well, CRF won't cause chest pain unless it is from a condition caused from ESRD (End Stage Renal Disease) such as CHF or CAD (Congestive Heart Failure, Coronary Artery Disease) and I have neither of those. As for Uremic Pericarditis If I had that I would have a fever as well and I have not had a fever for a long time. Any other ideas?

MIKE

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Aren't you on dialysis?

Yeap 11+ years.

Being a renal guy, the chest pain might be due to your CRF (assuming that's why you're on dialysis), or you could look into uremic pericarditis. Just my thoughts.

Well, CRF won't cause chest pain unless it is from a condition caused from ESRD (End Stage Renal Disease) such as CHF or CAD (Congestive Heart Failure, Coronary Artery Disease) and I have neither of those. As for Uremic Pericarditis If I had that I would have a fever as well and I have not had a fever for a long time. Any other ideas?

MIKE

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[rahvin]

You're a hypocondriac Epoman, I mean I understand why you are but still. Have you considered that you could have done something as easy as bruised a rib or pulled a muscle?

Oh and I told you that you wouldn't feel a thing on the angiogram you silly boy. Mine was far more invasive, I didn't say it originally but they were looking at the Veins in my head so they threaded the thing all the way up into the arteries in my head and released the dye and I got to feel the heat of the dye all the way down my face.

 

[remagavon]

congrats

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: Epoman
Well, CRF won't cause chest pain unless it is from a condition caused from ESRD (End Stage Renal Disease) such as CHF or CAD (Congestive Heart Failure, Coronary Artery Disease) and I have neither of those. As for Uremic Pericarditis If I had that I would have a fever as well and I have not had a fever for a long time. Any other ideas?

Sever CRF can cause chest pain (from hypertension IIRC), but I don't know your case. Also, fever isn't always present in UP. It might be calcific valvular disease or hyperparathyroidism secondary to renal osteodrystrophy, of course, by this point I'm just throwing out random things that are possible. I've only been working with a nephrologist for ~6months, so you probably know more than me. I'm just saying, if your chest pain can't be diagnosed, look into some renal connections. Your case is really interesting to me, so let me know what it is when you get it figured out. I'll be here to throw out other minute possibilities. Good luck!

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: rahvin
You're a hypocondriac Epoman, I mean I understand why you are but still. Have you considered that you could have done something as easy as bruised a rib or pulled a muscle?

Oh and I told you that you wouldn't feel a thing on the angiogram you silly boy. Mine was far more invasive, I didn't say it originally but they were looking at the Veins in my head so they threaded the thing all the way up into the arteries in my head and released the dye and I got to feel the heat of the dye all the way down my face.

CAD in dialysis patients is almost a given if you're on it long enough, you will get it. I have just been lucky in that aspect so far. Plus I guess you forgot my symptoms like Nausea, diarrhea? a bruised rib or pulled a muscle would not cause those symptoms. Plus I didn't ask for an angiogram my dialysis doctor insisted and my cardiologist thought there may be reason for concern due to the length of time I have been on dialysis. And the majority of people who have chest pain assume it's their heart.

 

[myusername]

Have you looked into your diet?

I used to be able to eat anything and everything, and a couple months ago I started getting chest pains. It didn't seem to be symptomatic of arterial disease (which, given my 2 fast food meals a day for basically the past decade and sedentary lifestyle I would be a good candidate for) since it did not seem localized to one place over multople episodes.

Being an idiot, I didn't consult a doctor, but I did check what I was eating, and it turns out that somewhere along the line, I have developed a strong reaction to onions, which now give me chest pain if I eat them - even the onions on a whopper is enough to do it.

Now I'm probably in denial, and the reaction to onions is just a symptom of a different underlying condition that will cause me to keel over with a look of surprise on my face, rather than a condition unto itself ...

..but onions could cause gastric distress/nausea/diarrhea like you describe too.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: rahvin
You're a hypocondriac Epoman, I mean I understand why you are but still. Have you considered that you could have done something as easy as bruised a rib or pulled a muscle?

Oh and I told you that you wouldn't feel a thing on the angiogram you silly boy. Mine was far more invasive, I didn't say it originally but they were looking at the Veins in my head so they threaded the thing all the way up into the arteries in my head and released the dye and I got to feel the heat of the dye all the way down my face.

CAD in dialysis patients is almost a given if you're on it long enough, you will get it. I have just been lucky in that aspect so far. Plus I guess you forgot my symptoms like Nausea, diarrhea? a bruised rib or pulled a muscle would not cause those symptoms. Plus I didn't ask for an angiogram my dialysis doctor insisted and my cardiologist thought there may be reason for concern due to the length of time I have been on dialysis. And the majority of people who have chest pain assume it's their heart.

Dude, I know you have real issues but you fit the definition with as much time as you spend worrying about your health and stressing out about such minor things as feeling a wire in your artery . Don't get me wrong, I think you have pretty good reasons to be that way, hell I'm a bit of one and I don't have anywhere near the issues you do. I don't think you ever answered though, are you on the doner list to get a kidney if one becomes available?

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: rahvin
Dude, I know you have real issues but you fit the definition with as much time as you spend worrying about your health and stressing out about such minor things as feeling a wire in your artery . Don't get me wrong, I think you have pretty good reasons to be that way, hell I'm a bit of one and I don't have anywhere near the issues you do. I don't think you ever answered though, are you on the doner list to get a kidney if one becomes available?

Hey, it's people like him that will pay my salary, let him be.

 

[dmcowen674]

No explanation for chest pain?

Try pinched nerve, slipped or herniated disc in back.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No explanation for chest pain?

Try pinched nerve, slipped or herniated disc in back.

I doubt any of those would create a frontal "pushing feeling" in the chest. I'd try looking into his other conditions causing a secondary symptom first. But what do I know?

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Epoman
Well, CRF won't cause chest pain unless it is from a condition caused from ESRD (End Stage Renal Disease) such as CHF or CAD (Congestive Heart Failure, Coronary Artery Disease) and I have neither of those. As for Uremic Pericarditis If I had that I would have a fever as well and I have not had a fever for a long time. Any other ideas?

Sever CRF can cause chest pain (from hypertension IIRC), but I don't know your case. Also, fever isn't always present in UP. It might be calcific valvular disease or hyperparathyroidism secondary to renal osteodrystrophy, of course, by this point I'm just throwing out random things that are possible. I've only been working with a nephrologist for ~6months, so you probably know more than me. I'm just saying, if your chest pain can't be diagnosed, look into some renal connections. Your case is really interesting to me, so let me know what it is when you get it figured out. I'll be here to throw out other minute possibilities. Good luck!

Um Yeah! 11years>6months, but anyway to address your theories, "Calcific valvular disease" well as I mentioned about the ECHO I had done and now the Angio I had done that rules out CVD. As for the "Hyperparathyroidism" that is a possiblility or so is Hypoparathyroidism. But since my TSH levels are within range and my thyroid and all of my parathyroids have been removed (Except one) It's unlikely. As for "Renal osteodystrophy" well that is a real possibility however osteodystrophy would not cause my secondary symptoms such as nausea, diarrhea. But could it be connected to ESRD in some way? sure and most likely it is. You have probaly heard by now that people don't die from ESRD they die from Complications of ESRD. Do me a favor and ask around with your doctors and nurese for ideas.

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: myusername
Have you looked into your diet?

I used to be able to eat anything and everything, and a couple months ago I started getting chest pains. It didn't seem to be symptomatic of arterial disease (which, given my 2 fast food meals a day for basically the past decade and sedentary lifestyle I would be a good candidate for) since it did not seem localized to one place over multople episodes.

Being an idiot, I didn't consult a doctor, but I did check what I was eating, and it turns out that somewhere along the line, I have developed a strong reaction to onions, which now give me chest pain if I eat them - even the onions on a whopper is enough to do it.

Now I'm probably in denial, and the reaction to onions is just a symptom of a different underlying condition that will cause me to keel over with a look of surprise on my face, rather than a condition unto itself ...

..but onions could cause gastric distress/nausea/diarrhea like you describe too.

Interesting, I will have to look into that. I might have to do my own studies. :thumbsup:

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Epoman

Originally posted by: rahvin
You're a hypocondriac Epoman, I mean I understand why you are but still. Have you considered that you could have done something as easy as bruised a rib or pulled a muscle?

Oh and I told you that you wouldn't feel a thing on the angiogram you silly boy. Mine was far more invasive, I didn't say it originally but they were looking at the Veins in my head so they threaded the thing all the way up into the arteries in my head and released the dye and I got to feel the heat of the dye all the way down my face.

CAD in dialysis patients is almost a given if you're on it long enough, you will get it. I have just been lucky in that aspect so far. Plus I guess you forgot my symptoms like Nausea, diarrhea? a bruised rib or pulled a muscle would not cause those symptoms. Plus I didn't ask for an angiogram my dialysis doctor insisted and my cardiologist thought there may be reason for concern due to the length of time I have been on dialysis. And the majority of people who have chest pain assume it's their heart.

Dude, I know you have real issues but you fit the definition with as much time as you spend worrying about your health and stressing out about such minor things as feeling a wire in your artery . Don't get me wrong, I think you have pretty good reasons to be that way, hell I'm a bit of one and I don't have anywhere near the issues you do. I don't think you ever answered though, are you on the doner list to get a kidney if one becomes available?

Oh don't get me started on transplantation. I have known a few/several people on dialysis who had a transplant and I have outlived them. Their DEAD, People think a transplant is a cure but it is just a treatment. It's very easy for a kidney to reject so they pump you with all these drugs that can cause other major illnesses such as DIABETES!!! WTF? "Cyclosporin" is the drug that will help your Kidney not to reject BUT it can give you DIABETES??? OMGWTFBBQ? plus since immune system is lowered so much, the average cold can turn into Pneumonia. Seriously you can end up worse off than just staying on dialysis, howver some people are lucky and they do great and their kidney will last them 20+ years but it is going to reject eventually.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Epoman
Oh don't get me started on transplantation. I have known a few/several people on dialysis who had a transplant and I have outlived them. Their DEAD, People think a transplant is a cure but it is just a treatment. It's very easy for a kidney to reject so they pump you with all these drugs that can cause other major illnesses such as DIABETES!!! WTF? "Cyclosporin" is the drug that will help your Kidney not to reject BUT it can give you DIABETES??? OMGWTFBBQ? plus since immune system is lowered so much, the average cold can turn into Pneumonia. Seriously you can end up worse off than just staying on dialysis, howver some people are lucky and they do great and their kidney will last them 20+ years but it is going to reject eventually.

Long term dialysis is a death sentence as well, I think I would take the chance if it was me.

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Epoman
Oh don't get me started on transplantation. I have known a few/several people on dialysis who had a transplant and I have outlived them. Their DEAD, People think a transplant is a cure but it is just a treatment. It's very easy for a kidney to reject so they pump you with all these drugs that can cause other major illnesses such as DIABETES!!! WTF? "Cyclosporin" is the drug that will help your Kidney not to reject BUT it can give you DIABETES??? OMGWTFBBQ? plus since immune system is lowered so much, the average cold can turn into Pneumonia. Seriously you can end up worse off than just staying on dialysis, howver some people are lucky and they do great and their kidney will last them 20+ years but it is going to reject eventually.

Long term dialysis is a death sentence as well, I think I would take the chance if it was me.

Well thanks for pointing that out.

Alot of people get a transplant and wish they hadn't. I know many and some are dead. Having a transplant is a death sentence as well. Some people handle dialysis very well and have been on it going on 30+ years. Do I wish I had gotten one when I first got on, sometimes. If anything I would want a living donor the chances of rejection are reduced when it's from a living donor, and at the time I had no relatives that could give me one. Yes it sucks to be me. I had a brother but he was only 11. My mom is a selfish b1tch (I call her that not just because of her not giving me a kidney, there are several reasons) and my dad is not a match. Maybe I'll change my mind later, there are some great things that are going to happen in the next 5-10 years concerning transplantation.
Hopefully I'll still be alive.

I'm still waiting to hear back from "Joemonkey" (See post #11 in this thread)

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
No explanation for chest pain?

Try pinched nerve, slipped or herniated disc in back.

I doubt any of those would create a frontal "pushing feeling" in the chest. I'd try looking into his other conditions causing a secondary symptom first. But what do I know?

When I broke my back I didn't have any back pain, it was all in the stomach area in the front. My back never actually caused any pain even during healing.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Epoman
Alot of people get a transplant and wish they hadn't. I know many and some are dead. Having a transplant is a death sentence as well. Some people handle dialysis very well and have been on it going on 30+ years. Do I wish I had gotten one when I first got on, sometimes. If anything I would want a living donor the chances of rejection are reduced when it's from a living donor, and at the time I had no relatives that could give me one. Yes it sucks to be me. I had a brother but he was only 11. My mom is a selfish b1tch (I call her that not just because of her not giving me a kidney, there are several reasons) and my dad is not a match. Maybe I'll change my mind later, there are some great things that are going to happen in the next 5-10 years concerning transplantation.
Hopefully I'll still be alive.

I'm still waiting to hear back from "Joemonkey" (See post #11 in this thread)

Well I hope you are writting your congress critters about stem cell research and cloning then. I think you are right, probably within a decade they will have the ability to grow you a new kidney. It's unfortunate that your mother of all people wouldh't donate a kidney, that's just uncomprehensible to me.

 

[StageLeft]

If joemonkey would actually give somebody on AT a kidney, then he needs to be elite. :thumbsup:

 

[Epoman]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
If joemonkey would actually give somebody on AT a kidney, then he needs to be elite. :thumbsup:

Yeah but he's avoiding this thread like the ebola virus. He was drunk when he made that comment or he was trying to impress a girl.