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Anger Erupts at Republican Town Halls Over Obamacare

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ivwshane said:
It's definitely a win-win for the dems. The repubs will either pass something better, a win for everyone, or they will pay the consequences politically for creating something worse.
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I do not take this viewpoint. Trump's minions are so hell bent on rationalizing his every action that I fully believe he could take a "cut and run" approach to healthcare and still not suffer for it politically. Saying he slashed the "socialistic" Obamacare alone with nothing to replace it with would probably be enough for him to spin into a victory to his supporters.
 
Mai72 said:
Anyone else notice how upset the overweight guy was over the possibility of Obamacare being repealed? "If I don't get my meds I'll die!"

Umm... Try being a bit proactive with your health for once. You have to wonder how many people are actually getting free health coverage. Personally, I know a few out of shape men who make squat, and they purposely do this do they can get their free health coverage. I'm not saying they all do this, but I bet many do.
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You certainly are one of those people who seems to relish blaming other people for their faults. I'd blame you for that but I know you are not at fault for the inferiority complex you have that makes you need to do that/
 
MajinCry said:
The post Dank responded to was kinda worded like you were a Repub. If you voted for Trump...Wellp.
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It's actually my attitude toward any American that didn't vote for Hillary. I don't care if if they fell for all the propaganda that Hillary was the devil, anyone that didn't instantly recognize that Trump is orders of magnitude worse than even the worst of the lies about Hillary will never get respect from me again.
 
fleshconsumed said:
Sadly, reading the article it looks like it's just democrats/progressives flooding republican townhalls. While it's nice in general to have people more actively involved in the democratic process, nothing is going to change unless the republican base, the same base that voted these people in will do the same - flood the townhalls and demand answers from people they elected. (R) representatives are not going to care about (D) base that votes against them anyway. Nothing is going to get done until (R) base will rise and hold the (R) officials responsible for improving Obamacare like they promised to.
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I agree. As more of their constituents show up to complain and whine about the legislation their representative are passing, republicans should let them know they won't be listened to since they are whiny liberals at a republican town hall.

In fact I'm 100% certain it would be best for republicans to ignore or denigrate these constituents until at least November 2018. 😉
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
All I see from those links is Republicans navigating treacherous waters. I personally wouldn't call it backpedaling per se but more of a realization of the political realities than anything else. Straight up repeal is not going to happen...they get this. Their strategy appears to be to gut the mandate and other onerous provisions of ACA as soon as possible on one hand...while building a alternative to ACA on the other...and then allowing them to coexist for a while until there's enough confidence in the replacement plan to get the votes need for total repeal. I personally don't think the word "backpedaling" is an accurate description of reality here as they're aggressively moving ahead on this issue.
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L . O . ****ing L.

*ban worthy comments about modern day republicans removed*
 
MajinCry said:
The post Dank responded to was kinda worded like you were a Repub. If you voted for Trump...Wellp.
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nah imo thats way too easy off the hook.. first off aint american coulda woulda voted sanders and then anything not trump.. Nothing in my post indicated right wing anything IMO. some dude just felt like dishing random shit out.. this happens.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
All I see from those links is Republicans navigating treacherous waters. I personally wouldn't call it backpedaling per se but more of a realization of the political realities than anything else. Straight up repeal is not going to happen...they get this. Their strategy appears to be to gut the mandate and other onerous provisions of ACA as soon as possible on one hand...while building a alternative to ACA on the other...and then allowing them to coexist for a while until there's enough confidence in the replacement plan to get the votes need for total repeal. I personally don't think the word "backpedaling" is an accurate description of reality here as they're aggressively moving ahead on this issue.
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Oh OK Kellyanne. They are just completely changing their plans in the face of pressure, but that's not backpedalling.

As far as the new plan goes, making the insurance system insolvent while they take their time to finally get their shit together doesn't sound like much of a plan.

I look forward to the next round of not-backpedalling.
 
I hope they backpeddle to the point they make tweaks to the ACA to fix the issues that is causing it to be unaffordable to some Americans.
 
I wonder: at what point do Republicans acknowledgethat the mass protests and town hall critics aren't paid agitators or extremists, but their normal constituents? Trump will always deny that there's massive opposition because his inflated ego won't allow anything else, but what about the ones who at least make vague stabs at realism and humility? At a certain point you'd think they'd realize that ignoring or retreating from voters will likely cost them dearly in 2018 and 2020. Even with the GOP's attempts to rig elections through gerrymandering and voter ID laws, there's only so much they can do if there's broad dissatisfaction.
 
Commodus said:
I wonder: at what point do Republicans acknowledgethat the mass protests and town hall critics aren't paid agitators or extremists, but their normal constituents? Trump will always deny that there's massive opposition because his inflated ego won't allow anything else, but what about the ones who at least make vague stabs at realism and humility? At a certain point you'd think they'd realize that ignoring or retreating from voters will likely cost them dearly in 2018 and 2020. Even with the GOP's attempts to rig elections through gerrymandering and voter ID laws, there's only so much they can do if there's broad dissatisfaction.
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At the point it looks like it will actually could cost them their seats.
 
Bitek said:
At the point it looks like it will actually could cost them their seats.
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Something doen't add up with the Chaffetz townhall. He won with 70+% of the vote in his district. It's very possible some of the people attending were from the adjacent district that covers the rest of Salt Lake City.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Something doen't add up with the Chaffetz townhall. He won with 70+% of the vote in his district. It's very possible some of the people attending were from the adjacent district that covers the rest of Salt Lake City.
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It is a bit odd and I wouldn't rule out people coming from nearby, but at the same time: some things changed between November and February. Obamacare saw a surge in popularity, and there are even some Trump fans who are just now realizing that losing Obamacare would hurt them (this isn't true for everyone, of course, but I've seen it). These could be lefties flocking en masse to protest to Chaffetz... or they could reflect a constituency that regrets its decisions.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Something doen't add up with the Chaffetz townhall. He won with 70+% of the vote in his district. It's very possible some of the people attending were from the adjacent district that covers the rest of Salt Lake City.
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You're probably right but still nice to see him squirm when faced with people who probably didn't vote for him but he still has to act in their best interests (as opposed to simply ignoring they exist)
Also JC is a complete hypocrite."I want to get rid of betsy devos too" but he voted for her and so on and so on. Literally I have no idea where he gets his moral compass.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Something doen't add up with the Chaffetz townhall. He won with 70+% of the vote in his district. It's very possible some of the people attending were from the adjacent district that covers the rest of Salt Lake City.
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Are you saying the people that voted for him are incapable of getting mad at him?
 
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I’m interested if people on both sides of the isle agree that having our health care middle men’s primary concern be profitability is a problem? I believe their primary concern should quality of care at the lowest cost. Not sure how you address that but hopefully our elected officials do. I’ve also witnessed firsthand how much medical care costs (not insurance) and unless we address that, not sure this complicated issue will ever be fixed.
 
zzyzxroad said:
I’m interested if people on both sides of the isle agree that having our health care middle men’s primary concern be profitability is a problem? I believe their primary concern should quality of care at the lowest cost. Not sure how you address that but hopefully our elected officials do. I’ve also witnessed firsthand how much medical care costs (not insurance) and unless we address that, not sure this complicated issue will ever be fixed.
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Obamacare has a cap on profits. When the ratio of payouts to premiums drops below 80%, the ins co must reimburse their customers (rate payers.)

Republicans want to repeal this of course.

#bothsides
 
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