Android Police reviews the Galaxy Tab 7 Plus

[Bateluer]

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...-tablet-but-excellence-comes-at-a-high-price/

The Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus is the best Android tablet I have ever used - hands down. No contest, nothing else comes even close. I've used the Tab 10.1, the Toshiba Thrive, the Motorola XOOM, the ASUS Transformer, the HTC Flyer, the Acer Iconia A500, and the original Galaxy Tab. The Tab 10.1 is probably the next best thing (with TouchWiz UX), but it seems downright slow next to the Tab 7.0 Plus at times.

Seems they liked it. Not sure its going to sell well, when its paired against the Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet though, despite the more powerful hardware.

 

[JD50]

$400 = fail

 

[ponyo]

lol @ Samsung. This would've sold well at $299. Instead they're going to lose sales and then later cut the price down to $300. By then people will have moved on and no one will even want it for $300.

 

[Pliablemoose]

$299 would have been reasonable, $399 is just stupid.

If I had $400 to spend on a tablet today, this is the one I'd buy, but it's hard to ignore the fact that you could pick up two Kindle Fires for the price of one Tab.
The Tab 7.0 Plus, then, will most likely end up relegated to the enthusiast crowd, much as its predecessor was - making it the greatest tablet you'll probably never buy.

 

[NinjaCat]

I was thinking about getting this, but the screen isn't as good as others,it's priced like a 10 inch tablet, the price should have been $350 tops, better off getting a cheaper tablet and waiting for better ones to come out.

 

[sjwaste]

$400 for this might be palatable if it had 3G or LTE and could be activated without a contract, like the iPad plans.

It's $150-200 more than the Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet. And I know those two will have strong community support. So in the end, I can buy a $250 Nook Tablet with an almost certain ICS upgrade path, or I can spend $400 on something from a company known to drop support, and whose predecessor product was priced the same and didn't sell at all. That's even assuming I'm ready to ditch my current Nook Color.

Essentially, those are $150-200 cameras on this thing. The GPU on the Galaxy is better, too, but does that actually matter right now outside of benchmarks? There are still so many lower end GPUs in Android devices that developers can't focus on the high end.

Not a chance. This thing sounds and looks awesome, but I can't get past the price.

 

[Bateluer]

Its funny because I pointed out that the Tab 7 Plus was too expensive, in light of the Fire and Nook Tab, and was smacked down by others who said the more powerful Exynos/Mali make it worth the extra cost.

+1 to me. 🙂

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Its funny because I pointed out that the Tab 7 Plus was too expensive, in light of the Fire and Nook Tab, and was smacked down by others who said the more powerful Exynos/Mali make it worth the extra cost.

+1 to me. 🙂

Vs the Nook or Fire it is a questionable value but vs the Transformer this is obviously the better system

 

[Mopetar]

Its funny because I pointed out that the Tab 7 Plus was too expensive, in light of the Fire and Nook Tab, and was smacked down by others who said the more powerful Exynos/Mali make it worth the extra cost.

I could understand people saying this if we were talking about high end desktop processors, but who in the hell pays $200 for a minor bump in a device that won't make much use of it?

Either they're completely stupid, or they didn't anticipate the large price disparity.

 

[Bateluer]

Vs the Nook or Fire it is a questionable value but vs the Transformer this is obviously the better system

Transformer is commonly discounted below its 399 MSRP, and some people may want that 10in screen. In the case of the Prime, a hundred dollars more than the 7+ gets your a quad core device, and all the Prime's strengths. The 7+ doesn't fit well at 400 dollars at all.

 

[poofyhairguy]

If this had SAMOLED+, maybe. But with an IPS? Waste of a Exynos.

 

[sjwaste]

Its funny because I pointed out that the Tab 7 Plus was too expensive, in light of the Fire and Nook Tab, and was smacked down by others who said the more powerful Exynos/Mali make it worth the extra cost.

+1 to me. 🙂

I didn't give you shit, did I? I hope not, because you are correct.

 

[sjwaste]

If this had SAMOLED+, maybe. But with an IPS? Waste of a Exynos.

I wonder what a 7" SAMOLED panel would cost?

I'm still not sure that I'd pay a $200 premium for SAMOLED over IPS. It's not like IPS is even bad - we're not even talking the jump from TN to IPS.

 

[Brian Stirling]

I will likely spend a bit more than the $399 asking price for the Sammy 7 inch plus to get the 7.7 inch Sammy tab. I said it before but I think the low end units like the Fire and no doubt knock off's from China will own the bottom and canabalize the middle and only the high end will make money. Apple is well positioned at the top and have done quite well but very few other will make money selling tablets unless, like the Fire, there is a tie in that pays for the loss leader.

I don't know if Sammy will make money with the 7.7 inch tab or even if they actually release it but it has a better chance of making Sammy money than the middle-of-the-road 7 inch unit. A tablet would seem to be cheaper to make than a low end laptop but that may not be the case. Yes, a laptop tends to be bigger but size isn't a good judge of cost and tablets tend to have much more expensive storage like flash.


Brian

 

[sjwaste]

What draws you to the 7.7 inch tab? Just curious as to the reasons. I'm entirely unfamiliar with the product and I'll go Google it, but what makes that your choice at a higher price point?

 

[Puddle Jumper]

What draws you to the 7.7 inch tab? Just curious as to the reasons. I'm entirely unfamiliar with the product and I'll go Google it, but what makes that your choice at a higher price point?

It has a 7.7" 1280x800 Super AMOLED Plus (non pentile) display.

 

[sjwaste]

It has a 7.7" 1280x800 Super AMOLED Plus (non pentile) display.

I don't want to know the difference, I googled that. I want to know specifically why he wants that over any of the other 7" options at lower price points.

I'm curious to what people will pay a premium for in this segment.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I don't want to know the difference, I googled that. I want to know specifically why he wants that over any of the other 7" options at lower price points.

I'm curious to what people will pay a premium for in this segment.

That screen is the reason people will pay more for it, it could easily be the best display ever included in a mobile device.

 

[kaerflog]

Samsung dropped the ball with the 1024×600 display. If Huawai can make a 7"tablet with a 1280×800 display so should have Samsung.

 

[PokerGuy]

The Fire and Nook will eat this thing alive, I don't think it has any chance in the market at all at that price. Fire is cheapest, but has the whole amazon digital machine behind it, vast libraries etc. The nook has good hardware, but without the amazon backing. Both come in at a reasonable price point. $400 is in the ipad range, nobody's going to pay that much for a 7" device.

 

[Bateluer]

That screen is the reason people will pay more for it, it could easily be the best display ever included in a mobile device.

99.99% of people don't know what an SAMOLED screen is, what Pentile is, and can't tell the difference between an IPS, a TN, and a SAMOLED derivative.

The Fire and Nook will eat this thing alive, I don't think it has any chance in the market at all at that price. Fire is cheapest, but has the whole amazon digital machine behind it, vast libraries etc. The nook has good hardware, but without the amazon backing. Both come in at a reasonable price point. $400 is in the ipad range, nobody's going to pay that much for a 7" device.

Don't forget, B&N has a larger ebook&magazine store than Amazon, and since both have access to Netflix, both are on level playing fields with regards to content. Possibly a little more weight to B&N.

 

[Brian Stirling]

Yeah, I've said it before but the Fire and similar cheap tablets from China will own the low end and canabalize the middle and only the top will make money. That's the market Apple owns and it will be difficult for anyone to compete with them at the top. The Sammy 7.7, as other have mentioned, has probably the best screen of ANY tablet and is a size and form-factor I prefer over the iPad. I doubt the 7.7 will ever be sold here in the USA and the closest we have is the 7.0. That is too expensive to compete with the low end models and not enough better to be classified as upscale -- it will fail huge!

For me to get the 7.7 I'll probably have to order it from Europe IF Sammy ever actually makes and sells them damn thing...


Brian

 

[Bateluer]

Yeah, I've said it before but the Fire and similar cheap tablets from China will own the low end and canabalize the middle and only the top will make money.

The low end will make money as well. Amazon sells the Fire for about what it costs them to make, and will recoup those losses in content sales. B&N's Nook Tablet is the same time. Generic Chinese tablets will be relegated to using hardware a generation or 2, possibly 3, behind the current generation in order to undercut the Amazon/B&N offerings.

But, the price differences between the low, middle, and high end are all very close to begin with, and with tablets only actually costing 200-250 to make, there's plenty of room to make a normal profit margin on any device. Keep in mind, Apple's 100% profit margins are the exception, not the norm. 15% is a normal profit margin.

For me to get the 7.7 I'll probably have to order it from Europe IF Sammy ever actually makes and sells them damn thing...

Once it gets out of Apple & Samsung's legal tussle.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

99.99% of people don't know what an SAMOLED screen is, what Pentile is, and can't tell the difference between an IPS, a TN, and a SAMOLED derivative.

No offense but if someone can't tell that a SAMOLED screen is different just by looking at it they must be blind. Anyone comparing tablets at a store may not know what type of screen the Tab 7.7 but they can still tell that it's better looking than all of the other tablets sitting around it.

Samsung dropped the ball with the 1024×600 display. If Huawai can make a 7"tablet with a 1280×800 display so should have Samsung.

It's a non issue since anyone who cares about resolution or screen quality would be looking at the Tab 7.7

 

[Bateluer]

No offense but if someone can't tell that a SAMOLED screen is different just by looking at it they must be blind. Anyone comparing tablets at a store may not know what type of screen the Tab 7.7 but they can still tell that it's better looking than all of the other tablets sitting around it.

Friend of mine bought a DX2 back in August. She's a pretty average consumer, with no technical knowledge to speak up. She can't tell the difference between the screen on the X2 and the screen on her old Droid 1. And the DX2 usually rates as having one of the worst screens.

But this thread is about screen whores pimping how its SAMOLED Plus HD Ulimate XXX Platinum Edition or bust. 😛 Its about Samsung pricing the Tab 7 Plus outside where it should be. I'm going to bet its going get a price cut before Christmas.