Review Andrei's Snapdragon 888 + Exynos 2100 review

[DrMrLordX]

Surprised more people aren't talking about this one:

The Snapdragon 888 vs The Exynos 2100: Cortex-X1 & 5nm - Who Does It Better?

www.anandtech.com

It's just two devices and it's early data, but I have to agree that Samsung's 5LPE isn't looking that great from any angle. It comes as no surprise that Samsung chose their own node for the Exynos 2100, but Qualcomm doing so is kind of a bad look. They've been knocked down a peg if they still can't get access to any of TSMC's 5nm nodes. That's just my first impression anyway. To me it's opportunity missed for ARM in general.

 

[bononos]

For their CPU cores? Their core design team is already gone, so heavily doubt it.

Ok, hadn't known that the team was disbanded.

 

[uzzi38]

Speaking of their next flagship:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1366272184688259074

https://twitter.com/x/status/1366271054092644353

I have no clue on this guy's reputation, but the rumour itself sounds interesting enough. Although I will say I suspect the performance numbers in that first Tweet and more than likely focused on performance in a laptop form factor if they're even true.

 

[DrMrLordX]

What's the timeframe for Exynos 2200 to launch?

 

[uzzi38]

What's the timeframe for Exynos 2200 to launch?

Rumours are suggesting mid year AFAIK. Or at least, that's when we are supposedly going to first see RDNA IP first get used.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Rumours are suggesting mid year AFAIK. Or at least, that's when we are supposedly going to first see RDNA IP first get used.

How odd. Exynos 2100 just launched early this year. Samsung is already effectively replacing it.

 

[Tup3x]

How odd. Exynos 2100 just launched early this year. Samsung is already effectively replacing it.

They might launch laptop version earlier than mobile version. Quite interesting if the rumours are true. Would be nice if Samsung breaks Qualcomm's ARM laptop monopoly. It could start nice competition between the two.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Somewhat related to the original topic: Andrei dropped a review of the Qualcomm 780G as part of the Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G review:

Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G Performance Report: First Taste of the Snapdragon 780G

www.anandtech.com

Of interest is this graph:

Note that the 780G and 888 are both on Samsung 5LPE. Why is the 2.43 GHz A78 in the Snapdragon 888 using less power and producing more performance than the 2.4 GHz A78 in the Snapdragon 780G? The differences aren't massive individually, but taken in their totality, it does kind of stand out.

edit: might be the narrower memory interface? Somehow I doubt it but I'm trying to cover all the bases here.

 

[coercitiv]

might be the narrower memory interface?

Probably a different cache structure as well, though I could not find proper data for 780G to compare to what is readily available for 888.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Probably a different cache structure as well, though I could not find proper data for 780G to compare to what is readily available for 888.

Hmm also possible! I kind of wish Qualcomm had done a 4x A78 core instead of the X1 + 3xA78 of the Snapdragon 888, with clocks higher than the 780G.

 

[dark zero]

They might launch laptop version earlier than mobile version. Quite interesting if the rumours are true. Would be nice if Samsung breaks Qualcomm's ARM laptop monopoly. It could start nice competition between the two.

Oh, that explains it. Laptop version might come early since it is supposed to be for higher TDP. It is not that hard to control it. Even more, expec 2 X1 cores instead of just one.
And the New Exynos chip for phones might come with the Note 21 or the S22.

Hmm also possible! I kind of wish Qualcomm had done a 4x A78 core instead of the X1 + 3xA78 of the Snapdragon 888, with clocks higher than the 780G.

Seems that is the L2/L3 Cache than just the cores themselves.
Maybe the 780G was an attempt to prepare a 880?