And this is why a large thin aluminum phone is a really terrible idea - *Bend-Gate*

Phokus

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Aluminum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znK652H6yQM

Plastic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwM4ypi3at0

Any questions?


EDIT:

In response to the Consumer Reports "test" that proves there's nothing wrong with the IPhone 6+, it is a very flawed test because they used a 3 point bend test. A 4 point bend test would have been more approrpiate as the weak point of the iphone 6+ is not near the center:


http://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_do_we_have_both_3-point_and_4-point_bending-strength_tests

Why do we have both 3-point and 4-point bending-strength tests?

The peak stress produced in the 3-pt flexure fixture is at the specimen mid-point (or point contact) with reduced stress elsewhere. Hence, this analysis (stress localization) is ideal to test for specific isolation of stress on the specimen.

On the other hand, the 4-pt flexure fixture produces peak stresses along an extended region of the specimen surface. Hence, exposing a larger area of the specimen is possible with more potential for defects and flaws to be highlighted.

For other information's http://www.nordson.com/en-us/divisi...ents/3_4point bend Flexural AppNote Nov11.pdf

http://www.instron.us/wa/acc_catalog/prod_list.aspx?cid=833&cname=3 and 4 Point Flexure Fixtures
 
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QueBert

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I'm sure glad I don't go around bending my phone, call me crazy but I think the bad idea here is purposely bending your phone to the point it deforms *shrug*

Aluminum > Plastic,
 

Phokus

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I'm sure glad I don't go around bending my phone, call me crazy but I think the bad idea here is purposely bending your phone to the point it deforms *shrug*

Aluminum > Plastic,

People have had their iphone 6+ bent from putting their phone in the FRONT Pocket.
 

Anubis

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in before thousands of women with bent phones from keeping them in their back pockets and sitting om them
 

purbeast0

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hah i was reading about that eariler. those videos are fucking retarded though. anyone who tries to bend their phone deserves it.

but after having an ip6+ for 3 days, i can see how this could happen in people's pockets because the shit is just so big. too big. and i bet most of the people having this issue are manlets that wear skinny jeans so it probably hugs the shit out of their leg and bends with their leg while hugged against it.

just got my ip6 setup and this phone is WWAAAYYYY better to me just just due to the size. i can one hand it easily and text with one hand no problem on it because it's not too wide and i actually feel like i'm holding it since i can get a good grip on it.

wonder if this is just happening to a few people who are posting it on the net or if it's a big enough deal that it's happening to more people. either way i'm glad to be rid of that big ass phone.
 

QueBert

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People have had their iphone 6+ bent from putting their phone in the FRONT Pocket.

They should stop wearing skinny jeans, I've had aluminum things thinner and far more susceptible to bending then an iPhone 6+ in my front pocket without ever having a problem. It will be a sad sad world if companies start factoring in skinny jeans when they design a product.
 

theeedude

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Probably used cheap Al alloy. Should have used 7075 or Duralumin. Someone at Apple is probably getting a crash course on Aluminium right about now :)
 

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I love iOS and I love my iPhones but this is unacceptable. Both my iPhone 4 and 5 were put through some rough shit and did not bend. This was one the main reasons I have stuck with iPhones for so long but tomorrow I am going in, returning my iPhone 6 Plus, and pre-ordering the Note 4. Maybe Apple will think about the structural rigidity of their phones next year.
 
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Dude, are you trying too hard or what?

Anyone who TRIES to bend the phone is obviously trying too hard to damage the phone. Please let me know why this is an issue? Is dropping the phone and having the screen shatter for many other phones not an issue?

Its clear your bias is showing and you will do anything possible to cast Apple in a bad light.
 

badb0y

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And now I find out that Samsung has gone with an aluminum frame for the Note 4.

What's left now? G3?
 
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I love iOS and I love my iPhones but this is unacceptable. Both my iPhone 4 and 5 were put through some rough shit and did not bend. This was one the main reasons I have stuck with iPhones for so long but tomorrow I am going in, returning my iPhone 6 Plus, and pre-ordering the Note 4. Maybe Apple will think about the structural rigidity of their phones next year.
Why didn't you return your 5? There was a whole episode of bendgate with the 5 also. Don't let this troll post sway you THAT easily....
 

badb0y

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Why didn't you return your 5? There was a whole episode of bendgate with the 5 also. Don't let this troll post sway you THAT easily....

I've been following this closely from yesterday. It's not just a few people, there's a lot and they are reporting it happening under normal conditions. My pants aren't tight but they do put some strain on the phone if I sit down, I don't want to be worried about getting a bent phone just by doing regular things and I certainly won't change my life over a phone.
 

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When the 5S came out there were complaints of bent phones as well so it's not just the larger 6 or 6+ that's a problem. The real problem is that they are making the phone to god damn thin and that it what makes them easy to bend.

The fact that the 6+ bent sharply at the volume rocker switch isn't surprising as that would be a weak spot with the switch cutout.

I hope the race for ever thinner phones comes to an end and they begin to make phones that are thicker to provide greater strength and hold a larger battery. But, there will always be people that want them to be made even thinner and the press generally praises the thinnest phones...


Brian
 

Phokus

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Dude, are you trying too hard or what?

Anyone who TRIES to bend the phone is obviously trying too hard to damage the phone. Please let me know why this is an issue? Is dropping the phone and having the screen shatter for many other phones not an issue?

Its clear your bias is showing and you will do anything possible to cast Apple in a bad light.

Putting the phone in your front pocket and the phone bending isn't 'trying' to bend anything
 

pcgeek11

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Looks to me like he had to put considerable effort into bending the phone. More than you would get from a shirt pocket.

As for having any phone in your pants pocket and sitting on it... Well that is just stupid. Don't do it.
 

nexus5rocks

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Isn't the HTC One also aluminum?
I think it's the aluminum combined with the thinness that's the problem here. The One has an curved design, similar to an arch in a bridge, giving it more rigidity.
 

yh125d

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Just because it is aluminum doesn't mean it is bad.
The M8 is aluminum and reviewed as well built.

From a purely physical standpoint if all other things are equal, I'd think that the HTC would resist a little more, due both to being thicker and having the curve to the back, which would be a stronger shape than the flat back of the iPhone

I don't wear skinny jeans but I am fat which makes normal jeans skinny, and I remember worrying a little back when I had the first generation reboot of the Razr a couple of years ago. It was like 7.5 mm and on my tighter jeans I got nervous sometimes, especially when it turned in my pocket so that the long axis was perpendicular to the leg. When that was happening the tight jeans were pulling down on each end and my fat leg would be pushing out from the middle like in the video. I never had any problem with it though. This is probably just a combination of thinner phone, larger footprint which increases leverage on the phone. I was surprised when the glass broke when he bent it back, I wish he had tried the same with the note. I don't know much about the glass but maybe it's "one sided" and it's stronger in one direction than the other.

Kind of makes me hesitate about jumping on the Z3 if it comes to Verizon
 

EvilYoda

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Anyone whose response to this is "stop wearing skinny jeans": shut up. I would like the pretty ladies to wear their skinny jeans as much as they want. :p