And, the OUTOFTOUCHWITHREALITYAWARD goes to

[chess9]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/05/16/columbine.parents.ap/index.html

Good grief, is this mother completely clueless or am I being a heartless bastage?

If one of my kids had done anything remotely like that I'd be getting psychiatric care til I died. (My wife suggested the very same this a.m. when I dragged in from the track after doing 10 x 800 on 3:15 in Florida's 90% humidity.)

-Robert

 

[Format C:]

Originally posted by: chess9Good grief, is this mother completely clueless or am I being a heartless bastage?

If your comments are based only on the interview I'd have to say it would be the latter.

 

[ShinX]

see what satanic rock does to white kids ? it makes em crazy in the head. j/k i just hope that those wannabe thug bullies see whats coming to them if they screw around too much. f4ckin jerks.

 

[AcidicFury]

Cough Cough Bowling for Columbine Cough Cough

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: chess9
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/05/16/columbine.parents.ap/index.html

Good grief, is this mother completely clueless or am I being a heartless bastage?

If one of my kids had done anything remotely like that I'd be getting psychiatric care til I died. (My wife suggested the very same this a.m. when I dragged in from the track after doing 10 x 800 on 3:15 in Florida's 90% humidity.)

-Robert

Did you read the article?

 

[jagec]

The Klebolds said their son was set off by the "toxic culture" of the school, where athletes were worshipped and bullying was tolerated.

so it's like most other schools?

 

[ShinX]

you dont see poor black kids from the ghetto shooting ppl up like that , and they have tougher lives than any of us. it has to be the satanic rock music...........

 

[Helenihi]

Harris and Klebold weren't bullied, they were just psychos. Well, one of them was, can't remember which, the other one was more of a follower.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ShinX
you dont see poor black kids from the ghetto shooting ppl up like that , and they have tougher lives than any of us. it has to be the satanic rock music...........

It's because the kids are spoiled. Completely and utterly spoiled.

Too many parents these days pander to their kids because they feel guilty about not spending enough time with them. They buy their kids things, don't discipline them, have few or no rules, etc. The kids grow up thinking they can do whatever in the hell they want to do.

 

[Infohawk]

Obviously the parents are partly to blame, but I don't think it's fair to let the school and the community off the hook. American highschools have a bizarre quasi-class system that promotes this sort of antipathy between students. Both aspects were factors. And let's not-forget-the-widespread-availability-of-guns factor.

 

[chess9]

Siddhartha:

I always read articles before I post them.

Do you have some critical analysis you'd like to share with our viewers?

-Robert

 

[ShinX]

yea , the parents compensate them with dum-dum-dummmm , Satanic rock CDs

 

[nickdakick]

Originally posted by: ShinX
yea , the parents compensate them with dum-dum-dummmm , Satanic rock CDs

Yeah while dey listen to "satanic rock music" dey play dem fvcking ID software games dude. LOL :laugh:

I hope you're NOT serious.

 

[chess9]

Uh, is this woman confused about issues such as guilt and responsibility or not? On the one hand she is saying she didn't do anything wrong and on the other she is saying "she will never forgive herself" for not seeing how her son "suffered". I'd say she hasn't sorted out much in the intervening years. I'd also say she is being hopelessly defensive, if not disingenuous, about her feelings.

Do you suppose the parents of the dead children have a right to expect something resembling an apology for her role? Or, do you youngsters think the parents have so little influence over their children that it's unreasonable to expect a modicum amount of involvement by the parents so they have almost no responsibility?

I've seen plenty of successful parents, but I've seen few successful kids who weren't raised by parents who were very "hands on".

The Kliebold woman is a disaster.
-Robert

 

[ShinX]

i'm not , its just that the reasons why these ppl do things like that make no sense. like the SATANIC ROCK MUSIC and thos ID software games lol

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: ShinX
you dont see poor black kids from the ghetto shooting ppl up like that , and they have tougher lives than any of us. it has to be the satanic rock music...........

It's because the kids are spoiled. Completely and utterly spoiled.

Too many parents these days pander to their kids because they feel guilty about not spending enough time with them. They buy their kids things, don't discipline them, have few or no rules, etc. The kids grow up thinking they can do whatever in the hell they want to do.

Yup thats pretty much whats at the heart of it.

Amazing! I actually agree with Conjur on this one.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: chess9
Siddhartha:

I always read articles before I post them.

Do you have some critical analysis you'd like to share with our viewers?

-Robert

I am sorry, I meant to write that I thought the same thing when I read the title of the article. But then after reading it I started to wonder what I would think and do if my 16 year old child killed 13 people. I obviously would not have raised my child to kill people. How responsible would feel I should be for what my child did?

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: ShinX
i'm not , its just that the reasons why these ppl do things like that make no sense. like the SATANIC ROCK MUSIC and thos ID software games lol

but it's obviously the bad music and violent games! I mean, it couldn't POSSIBLY be just bad parenting

 

[Moonbeam]

We have a sick culture. The symptoms manifest in a spectrum from conformity to open psychopathology. Everybody, however, is insane and especially so since we don't know it or want to.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: conjur
It's because the kids are spoiled. Completely and utterly spoiled.

Too many parents these days pander to their kids because they feel guilty about not spending enough time with them. They buy their kids things, don't discipline them, have few or no rules, etc. The kids grow up thinking they can do whatever in the hell they want to do.

ironically, this is how i view our society.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: ShinX
you dont see poor black kids from the ghetto shooting ppl up like that , and they have tougher lives than any of us. it has to be the satanic rock music...........

The Klebolds said their son was set off by the "toxic culture" of the school, where athletes were worshipped and bullying was tolerated.

 

[Format C:]

Originally posted by: chess9
Uh, is this woman confused about issues such as guilt and responsibility or not? On the one hand she is saying she didn't do anything wrong and on the other she is saying "she will never forgive herself" for not seeing how her son "suffered". I'd say she hasn't sorted out much in the intervening years. I'd also say she is being hopelessly defensive, if not disingenuous, about her feelings.

Do you suppose the parents of the dead children have a right to expect something resembling an apology for her role? Or, do you youngsters think the parents have so little influence over their children that it's unreasonable to expect a modicum amount of involvement by the parents so they have almost no responsibility?

I've seen plenty of successful parents, but I've seen few successful kids who weren't raised by parents who were very "hands on".

The Kliebold woman is a disaster.
-Robert

You're right. I say we charge her with murder and seek the death penalty. Would that be enough for you?

 

[NightCrawler]

Parents today suck

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: chess9
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/05/16/columbine.parents.ap/index.html

Good grief, is this mother completely clueless or am I being a heartless bastage?

If one of my kids had done anything remotely like that I'd be getting psychiatric care til I died. (My wife suggested the very same this a.m. when I dragged in from the track after doing 10 x 800 on 3:15 in Florida's 90% humidity.)

-Robert

how is the mother out of touch with reality?

 

[earthman]

It's easy to say they should have done this or that to make their children different, but I don't think its fair to blame the parents for their teenage children commiting mass murder. I don't think anyone reasonably expects that of their children. I'm not sure they would have to apoligize to anybody, their loss was no less. I think the school shares responsibility, and I certainly know from personal experience that schools do tolerate bullying and other abuses by the "popular crowd".