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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.

That would only be the case for Chrysler. Toyota is a publicly traded company, so the money ends up at whoever owns the shares of the company.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=TM

Yeah, in otherwords most indexed funds and pensions funds get the profits from toyota.
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.

Until someone does an apples to apples comparison, the same argument can be made about American cars being built in Mexico / Canada. That money is "lost" to other countries. The question is, does a given manufacturer spend more in labor, or does more cash go back to headquarters?
 
Originally posted by: Mide
I'd buy American if any company would sell something decent. Ford's steering wheel on all their cars is so damn ugly and no other American maker has an exterior design that is good looking.

Personal preference I suppose, I dislike the exterior styling of many of the imports and like the domestics (in general, always exceptions on both sides).
 
Originally posted by: woodie1
Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: Syringer
You guessed it, the Toyota Camry.

Umm you are looking at the wrong list, it's farther down the page.
The Ford Taurus comes in the #1 spot at 90% domestic parts content.

You're right, that first list appears to be the best selling cars that have final assembly in the US.

The Camry impacts the American worker more than the slower selling Taurus. More sold = more American workers having jobs.

That's not what the thread was about, it's supposed to be about the most American car which means the most American made parts and built in America. The OP either mis-read the charts or used blatant Toyota fanboi-ism and mistated the truth.

Though I'm not surprised the Toyota Sienna uses 85% American parts. Ours is a piece of shit.
 
Originally posted by: VinylxScratches
Yeah, people have also been suggesting the Fusion and Focus like they're the next best thing since sliced bread.

I have been scratching my head, wondering how Ford went from"OMG, DO NOT WANT" to hot piece of ass in such a short period of time.

I like the looks of the Fusion, but they were building absolute shit cars not too long ago. Is it actually a reliable car??



Also, weve all heard that it costs US auto companies more to manufacture a car....does anyone know if the Camry cost more/less than the Taurus to design/engineer?
 
Originally posted by: RU482
Originally posted by: VinylxScratches
Yeah, people have also been suggesting the Fusion and Focus like they're the next best thing since sliced bread.

I have been scratching my head, wondering how Ford went from"OMG, DO NOT WANT" to hot piece of ass in such a short period of time.

I personally feel that Ford currently makes great products but I also feel that GM has equally great products. But I've wondered recently why does the media and the internet all of a sudden love Ford products but almost completely shuns GM's advances. All I can personally come up with is that Ford is the only one of the former Big 3 to not take any bail out money thus changing the public's perception on the company and it's products. Perception is the key and always has been. Just my opinion though.

 
good point...that's probably at least part of why I stated that Ford has been making complete garbage up until recently. Sure they made some crap, but it's probably not as bad as I perceived it too be (I'm a GM/Honda guy myself). Kinda like how Toyota used to be the media darling...that seemed to have tapered off, coinciding with them taking the "worlds largest auto manufacturer crown". The media is a faithless slut.
 
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: woodie1
Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: Syringer
You guessed it, the Toyota Camry.

Umm you are looking at the wrong list, it's farther down the page.
The Ford Taurus comes in the #1 spot at 90% domestic parts content.

You're right, that first list appears to be the best selling cars that have final assembly in the US.

The Camry impacts the American worker more than the slower selling Taurus. More sold = more American workers having jobs.

That's not what the thread was about, it's supposed to be about the most American car which means the most American made parts and built in America. The OP either mis-read the charts or used blatant Toyota fanboi-ism and mistated the truth.

Though I'm not surprised the Toyota Sienna uses 85% American parts. Ours is a piece of shit.

Read the explanation for the 1st chart: "The American-Made Index rates cars built and bought in the U.S. Among our considerations are sales for each car, as they correlate to the number of U.S. autoworkers employed to build any given model and to build the parts that go into those same cars."

 
Originally posted by: RU482
Originally posted by: VinylxScratches
Yeah, people have also been suggesting the Fusion and Focus like they're the next best thing since sliced bread.

I have been scratching my head, wondering how Ford went from"OMG, DO NOT WANT" to hot piece of ass in such a short period of time.

I like the looks of the Fusion, but they were building absolute shit cars not too long ago. Is it actually a reliable car??



Also, weve all heard that it costs US auto companies more to manufacture a car....does anyone know if the Camry cost more/less than the Taurus to design/engineer?

Yes.
Your second question about the Camry/Taurus cost? Don't know if Ford reached the same efficiency. It might take a while until an analyst group figures that out. The renaming from Five Hundred to Taurus with it's slight changes with powertrain and a mild facelift was probably cheap. The new '10 Taurus, probably have to wait and see.
The new Taurus is a whole different animal. Not the same target it once was, that was taken over by the Fusion.

Just rememberd this: Ford made a press release several days ago about cutting their suppliers in half. It's bad news for those that are cut. But overall, this is good news. This means that Ford figured out the logistics of ramping up/down production, managing their supply line, etc with more of a streamlined process. Probably means more efficiency.
 
Originally posted by: Baked
Those Japanese car factories don't hire union workers right?

Many of Toyota's plants are union or require union workers. Also if you're referring to actual japense plants they are about as unionized as you can get.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Baked
Those Japanese car factories don't hire union workers right?

Many of Toyota's plants are union or require union workers. Also if you're referring to actual japense plants they are about as unionized as you can get.

I don't know man, according to this map, NUMMI is the only Toyota plant that is unionized currently in the US. All other plants that belong to Foreign car makers are not unionized at all. Only the domestics.

http://www.nytimes.com/interac...619-auto-plants-4.html
 
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