And the most "American" car available today is...

Howard

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.
Has anyone ever figured the % of money leaving the country per car bought?
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.
Has anyone ever figured the % of money leaving the country per car bought?

I'm curious about that too, when it comes to total money spent building parts, paying workers, paying for the factory etc., how much of it stays in the US and how much goes elsewhere?
 

VinylxScratches

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.

It goes to American workers and is reinvested and back to Corporate locations in America most likely..
 

halik

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.

That would only be the case for Chrysler. Toyota is a publicly traded company, so the money ends up at whoever owns the shares of the company.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.
Has anyone ever figured the % of money leaving the country per car bought?

I'm curious about that too, when it comes to total money spent building parts, paying workers, paying for the factory etc., how much of it stays in the US and how much goes elsewhere?

Toyota gross profit margin is some 20%, which comes down to 4.4% on pre-tax basis.
So anywhere between 80-95% of all the revenue generated in the US is spent in the US (assuming COGS is the main cost driver, along with labor)
 

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Originally posted by: VinylxScratches
Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.

It goes to American workers and is reinvested and back to Corporate locations in America most likely..

This. While the so called US companies take bailout money, close down US factories and lay off US workers, and then invest in other countries (i.e. China, South America, Mexico) with plans to IMPORT back to the US.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.
Has anyone ever figured the % of money leaving the country per car bought?

I'm curious about that too, when it comes to total money spent building parts, paying workers, paying for the factory etc., how much of it stays in the US and how much goes elsewhere?

Toyota gross profit margin is some 20%, which comes down to 4.4% on pre-tax basis.
So anywhere between 80-95% of all the revenue generated in the US is spent in the US (assuming COGS is the main cost driver, along with labor)

:thumbsup:

Toyota is (well, was up until the big recession) building and expanding US manufacturing while the rest are moving it out.
 

KDKPSJ

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.

Hope you were not serious when you posted this. If you were, you basically have no knowledge about how business works.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.

who eventually gives it back to the american worker.....
 

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That explains why I hated the Camry when I drove the company hybrid for over an hour;). No, but I still don't like t he Camry.
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: everydae
Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.

Hope you were not serious when you posted this. If you were, you basically have no knowledge about how business works.

lol I was seriously messing. Don't you remember people posting that here the past couple years???
 

VinylxScratches

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: everydae
Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.

Hope you were not serious when you posted this. If you were, you basically have no knowledge about how business works.

lol I was seriously messing. Don't you remember people posting that here the past couple years???

Yeah, people have also been suggesting the Fusion and Focus like they're the next best thing since sliced bread.
 

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Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: Syringer
You guessed it, the Toyota Camry.

Umm you are looking at the wrong list, it's farther down the page.
The Ford Taurus comes in the #1 spot at 90% domestic parts content.

You're right, that first list appears to be the best selling cars that have final assembly in the US.

The Camry impacts the American worker more than the slower selling Taurus. More sold = more American workers having jobs.
 

exdeath

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Hmm... why did I know it was going to be the Camry before I even opened the thread?
 

cheesehead

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Why isn't the Toyota Avalon on that list? It's a seriously good car - sort of like a Camry, but bigger, more comfortable and only sold in North America.

Originally posted by: VinylxScratches

Yeah, people have also been suggesting the Fusion and Focus like they're the next best thing since sliced bread.

They're both not bad cars, really. Not amazing, but not bad.

The new Fusion hybrid actually competes pretty well with the Camry hybrid, IMO.

And the older Foci - especially the older 3-door hatch with a manual gearbox and 2.3l duratec engine - were supposed to be pretty fun to drive.

 

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Originally posted by: Syringer
You guessed it, the Toyota Camry.

Sorry no.

http: www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.e649cd1b2b018c71d8eca01046108a0c/?javax.portlet.tpst=4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_viewID=detail_view&itemID=539ed5c474a5a110VgnVCM1000002fd17898RCRD&viewType=standard&detailViewURL=/portal/site/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.e649cd1b2b018c71d8eca01046108a0c/!-25405407!-2022025523?javax.portlet.tpst=4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_ws_MX

separated so the link detonator dosent crash my system, short story is Camary is 75% canada/us content, there are many vehicles with more.
 

ElFenix

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that list is kind of misleading. it isn't based simply on parts content + assembly, it also has to do with sales volume. so it's (parts content + assembly) * number of cars made here. so cars with larger percentages that ship in much smaller volumes are lower than cars with lower percentages but much higher volumes.


as for the avalon, it's tied at 7 for domestic parts content, but it's a much lower volume car than the camry, which has a lower domestic parts content. the ford taurus is the highest percentage american parts and assembly, built in chicago with 90% US/Canada parts. but it's a lower volume so it employs fewer american workers (which is what this list may be getting at, though even that may be misleading as it doesn't take into account different automation levels for the various automakers)


in other words, the most american car available on the road today is the ford taurus. next is the MKS. next vehicle is the sienna. then the GM 1500 vans in a tie, then the buick lucerne, then a bunch consisting of the malibu, odyssey, avalon, tundra, and venza.

of course, that doesn't account for engineering. and of course where profits and taxes go.
 

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I'd buy American if any company would sell something decent. Ford's steering wheel on all their cars is so damn ugly and no other American maker has an exterior design that is good looking.
 

evident

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Originally posted by: VinylxScratches
Originally posted by: zerocool84
And where does the money eventually end up going to? A Japanese company.

It goes to American workers and is reinvested and back to Corporate locations in America most likely..

don't forget, shareholders. my honda accord has about 70% US content. eat that ford fusion