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And It Begins...Obama Picks Up Three Super Delegates After PA Primary

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: mflacy
AP News & MSNBC is reporting Edwards is endorsing Obama today.

If so, sweet! :thumbsup:

Confirmed. Just heard it on WRAL news here in Raleigh.

I was about to say that Edwards isn't a super, however, as he has 19 pledged delegates to influence, it seems like he might be better than a super.
 
The pledged delegates don't have to shift their vote to Obama, it's still up to them to choose according to the rules.

But yes, Edwards influence in the matter would help Obama's case.
 
The Edwards endorsement is starting to snowball with those 19 pledged delegates. It's up to +4 now for Obama; the guy from NH and 3 from South Carolina.

He also picked up a superdelegate as well, Jim McDermott of Washington.
 
Edwards delegate count up to +7 pledged delegates for Obama. 1 in NH and 6 from SC.

Obama also received 2 more superdelegates bringing him to +3 for the day; Henry Waxman and Howard Berman of California.

EDIT: Make that +4 SD's. I left out Larry Cohen from D.C.
 
Originally posted by: mflacy
Edwards delegate count up to +7 pledged delegates for Obama. 1 in NH and 6 from SC.

Obama also received 2 more superdelegates bringing him to +3 for the day; Henry Waxman and Howard Berman of California.

Nope! Four. I know it can get hard to keep up 😉

President Larry Cohen of the Communications Workers of America, a super delegate for DC and a member of the Democratic National Committee, today announced his commitment to support Senator Barack Obama as the Democratic presidential nominee.
http://www.earthtimes.org/arti...n-pledges,396036.shtml

Which puts him right on pace to get to 2025 by PR...
http://spreadsheets.google.com...-0Yw80DbqlgeU3FA&gid=1
 
With all of these endorsements I'd expect Obama to win Montana and Idaho. If that happens I would expect Clinton to respectfully bow out of the contest.
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Which puts him right on pace to get to 2025 by PR...
http://spreadsheets.google.com...-0Yw80DbqlgeU3FA&gid=1

Interesting spreadsheet. I'm betting it will come during the week before PR.

Pundits keep tossing around the overused phrase "flood of super-delegates", but I think that's what will actually happen after May 20th. Once Obama crosses into a double digit distance of the 2025 figure on the 20th, the media will play the hell out of that story.

Super-delegates will start scrambling to declare their support before 2025, if only to declare they helped him get the nomination rather than supporting after the fact. I'd imagine declaring beforehand (for the winner) is worth more political juice than afterwards.

 
Not an SD announcement, but worth mentioning. North Carolina finalized their election results today and there was a slight delegate shift.

Basically, Obama gained a pledged delegate and Clinton lost one.
 
Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
With all of these endorsements I'd expect Obama to win Montana and Idaho. If that happens I would expect Clinton to respectfully bow out of the contest.

I bet he wins Idaho by a bigger margin than she won WV...let's go with 62%
 
Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: mflacy
First SD on the day goes to Obama, Pete Stark of CA.

CNN has him at 1,904 I think. Where did he pick up those five delegates from?
Ex-Edwards delegates?
 
Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: mflacy
First SD on the day goes to Obama, Pete Stark of CA.

CNN has him at 1,904 I think. Where did he pick up those five delegates from?

CNN, and most news organizations, were pretty slow to update the Edwards delegates.
 
Assuming Hillary wins Kentucky and Obama wins Oregon, its still difficult to see Obama get over the top with 2025 come next Tuesday. If anything, 5/20/08 should leave Hillary winning more elected delegates Tuesday.
But if the super delegates declaring for Obama turns from a trickle into a flood, that lone Oregon victory may be enough.

But since we have suffered through almost the entire democratic primary season already, I hardly see how it can hurt to see it all the way through to June 3. By then, Hillary math will be impossible, even if Florida and Michigan are compromise counted and the bar is raised higher than 2025. And who knows, Hillary might just throw in the towel on May 20 and that she ends it on a high note with Kentucky in her purse.
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Assuming Hillary wins Kentucky and Obama wins Oregon, its still difficult to see Obama get over the top with 2025 come next Tuesday. If anything, 5/20/08 should leave Hillary winning more elected delegates Tuesday.
But if the super delegates declaring for Obama turns from a trickle into a flood, that lone Oregon victory may be enough.

But since we have suffered through almost the entire democratic primary season already, I hardly see how it can hurt to see it all the way through to June 3. By then, Hillary math will be impossible, even if Florida and Michigan are compromise counted and the bar is raised higher than 2025. And who knows, Hillary might just throw in the towel on May 20 and that she ends it on a high note with Kentucky in her purse.

I still think she'll try to make a case using Puerto Rico's expected giant turnout to give her a boost in the popular vote. For this to work, she'll also have to convince people that Puerto Rico is a state...but her spin department has made the general populace believe less outrageous things in the past.

However, Obama's likely to finish the primary season on a high note as well, with wins in SD and MT, so I don't see the need to rush.
 
I have been looking on google for the latest polls in the five remaining contests. I can find indications that Hillary looks to win Kentucky by a 59-30 spread and Obama looks to win Oregon by a 55-45 spread, but beyond that, I seem to find almost nothing. In terms of being delegate rich, Puerto Rico is the largest of the five and about twice as large as SD and MT combined. But the remaining contests sum 189 elected delegates combined,
and with Obama now 120 short, it will go to super delegates to decide. Hillary would have to win almost 100% of the remaining super delegates.
 
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