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TennesseeTony

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Is 91-92cel a safe temp for a 7700k with a 4.5ghz oc? Not sure if the voltage is to high or if the fan hanging off end of the 1080ti is blowing hot air into the hyper 212 but yeah i paused cpu folding. Was loading at 1.280-1.296v as well as it folded....

The oc oddly is a weird one, i didn't initiate it. Some odd setting broke the oc settings i guess?
Intel's datasheet says a max T-junction temp of 100C.... Hovering over that explains that it is the max die temp. Seems a little hot to me, even with avx tasks. If you haven't already taken off the side cover, try that. If it has been a year or more since the cooler was installed, maybe try and re-paste the heatsink. I am getting high 60's with 130w TDP Xeon's, using the 212 Hyper.

Your chip is supposed to auto-boost to 4.5....but not at a high load. Many of the MB makers employ auto-OC tech in BIOS. Might also poke around there.
 

VirtualLarry

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Your chip is supposed to auto-boost to 4.5....but not at a high load. Many of the MB makers employ auto-OC tech in BIOS. Might also poke around there.
Some boards of that era, will enable MCT (multi-core Turbo, a type of OC), when you enable XMP setting for the RAM, automagically.
Might see if your board does that, and adjust accordingly.
 

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Some boards of that era, will enable MCT (multi-core Turbo, a type of OC), when you enable XMP setting for the RAM, automagically.
Might see if your board does that, and adjust accordingly.
Derp, yeah i did enable XMP but oddly never seen it act this way. Hmm i guess MCT is working then, thanks for the heads up. :) Usually stick the cores to a 4.2ghz all boost or something so its not dropping below,i guess doing that disables MCT all together. This time i kept it all stock and enabled XMP and maxed out my fans rpm.

Edit: Bios may be corrupt, everything i apply the little of things it results in the Bios freezing and like the 4.7ghz auto oc setting defaults to 4.2ghz. At least the voltage is down to a reasonable 1.23v. Offsetting it a hair drops it to a point everything including desktop freezes. So glad i am not touching another Asrock junker.....

This 7700k is a lemon, i got the voltage down to 1.20v at 4.5ghz and it still crashes. Yeah i got a 4.4ghz 1.248v now once i shut off MCT. The slightest of tinkering with the voltage causes a crash or freeze, not sure why i got a Z270 if every oc setting breaks stability. Not that i am incapable the board refuses to play nice with me.
 
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Assimilator1

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Yea my 2nd rig does something similar (It's an Asus X79 m/brd of some sort), it would jack up one of the CPU voltages (not just vcore, but VCCSA*) after setting the RAM to XMP, god knows why, no need for it! Once I only found out after a few weeks of burning more juice!:mad: (yes I had vaguely noticed it was running a bit warm, lol). And at least once it reverted to the higher voltages after a crash! Bear in my mind my i7 is the older Ivybridge CPU, incase it makes any difference.
*Just checked my notes, for 4.1 GHz it put vcore from 1.13v to 1.3v & VCCSA from 1.1v to 1.3v!! Which took system wall draw from ~241w to ~268w running DHEP and raised CPU temps by 10C to ~66C!
 

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Yea my 2nd rig does something similar (It's an Asus X79 m/brd of some sort), it would jack up one of the CPU voltages (not just vcore, but VCCSA*) after setting the RAM to XMP, god knows why, no need for it! Once I only found out after a few weeks of burning more juice!:mad: (yes I had vaguely noticed it was running a bit warm, lol). And at least once it reverted to the higher voltages after a crash! Bear in my mind my i7 is the older Ivybridge CPU, incase it makes any difference.
*Just checked my notes, for 4.1 GHz it put vcore from 1.13v to 1.3v & VCCSA from 1.1v to 1.3v!! Which took system wall draw from ~241w to ~268w running DHEP and raised CPU temps by 10C to ~66C!
Dang what a mess, yeah i got it finally stable at a 4.4ghz loaded at 1.248v and its sitting closer to 84cel on the hottest core. Plan on spending night at friends house out of town, not needing a 91-92cel chip possibly melting while i am gone so why the panic so to speak to fix the voltage issue. Hopefully i pick up more gpu wu while gone too :) My windows upstairs are left open, should bring in a nice breeze and help with temps too.
 
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Assimilator1

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Lol, yea that's better, although still quite toasty, does it need that much [edit]vcore to run at 4.4 GHz?
Psst, btw, if you've got any lock down rules in place in your area you might wanta delete a part of your post! And of course not go out (again, if you have the rules on);)
 
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Nice output! :), you've got considerably more firepower than I have by about x5, lol. My F@H stats. I could possibly reduce that to x4 if I fired up my ancient 2nd rig's GPU ;).
What spec is your rig?

You guys did way more than ok, you did damn well! :)
Running 2 older computers.
Both are Phenom 2x6 @3.6
8 gig ram
Asus Dual 1070 @1974-2000 in one
EVGA 1070SC @1984-2012 in the other.
Just GPU folding, Stopped CPU folding on them when I upgraded to 1070s a couple years back.
 
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Assimilator1

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Good game all, took me back to the old days. Too bad the irc no longer exists, sup LD, ViRGE, KingHam, Postman, etc, etc.
Virge is still around (sometimes under a different name ;)), don't recall seeing LD in many years, I don't know about the last 2.
 
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mopardude87

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Lol, yea that's better, although still quite toasty, does it need that much [edit]vcore to run at 4.4 GHz?
Psst, btw, if you've got any lock down rules in place in your area you might wanta delete a part of your post! And of course not go out (again, if you have the rules on);)
It should be loading closer to 1.17v from my readings but any slight adjustment to it causes instability. Even messing with LLC does nothing. It's a dud of a chip or the board is junk. I am grateful its running much better at 4.4ghz though.

So hyped for this 3700/3900x upgrade, not gonna miss the 7700k all that much. Trying to budget my upcoming stimulus/may check for the platform/2080ti upgrades and unless i get a B450 for the 3900x i may be stuck with waiting till june on a 2080ti. Not like a B450 MSI B450 Tomahawk Max is a bad deal either for a 3900x at stock.

Few things came up so 2080ti will have to wait till May at the soonest but all good things come to those who wait. :)
 
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It should be loading closer to 1.17v from my readings but any slight adjustment to it causes instability. Even messing with LLC does nothing. It's a dud of a chip or the board is junk. I am grateful its running much better at 4.4ghz though.

So hyped for this 3700/3900x upgrade, not gonna miss the 7700k all that much. Trying to budget my upcoming stimulus/may check for the platform/2080ti upgrades and unless i get a B450 i may be stuck with waiting till june on a 2080ti. Not like a B450 MSI B450 Tomahawk Max is a bad deal either for a 3900x at stock.

Few things came up so 2080ti will have to wait till May at the soonest but all good things come to those who wait. :)
If you have to wait until June for the 2080ti, maybe hold out for 1 or 2 more months to see what the 3000 series looks like? Its estimated to be teased in July (maybe a Titan tease?) and fully revealed in August and available for purchase in September:


I would hate for you to spend the money on a 2080ti only to find out 2 months later you could have gotten 40% more performance for the same price.

Alternatively, the Evga step up program gives you 90 days to upgrade, so maybe get a Evga card? I've never tried step up right around a new product launch though, so YMMV...
 

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If you have to wait until June for the 2080ti, maybe hold out for 1 or 2 more months to see what the 3000 series looks like? Its estimated to be teased in July (maybe a Titan tease?) and fully revealed in August and available for purchase in September:

I would hate for you to spend the money on a 2080ti only to find out 2 months later you could have gotten 40% more performance for the same price.

Alternatively, the Evga step up program gives you 90 days to upgrade, so maybe get a Evga card? I've never tried step up right around a new product launch though, so YMMV...
Yeah It's going to be the $1099 model off Newegg off EVGA and yeah i may do the 90 day deal maybe . Been on the fence but i spend about $550 monthly on my indica/computer/coin hobbies so a Ampere upgrade certainly can be affordable earlier in the next year.

I live in the here and now usually, i upgrade if i crave or want it unless something new is a week or a month or 2 away. I rarely deny myself anything and if i get a Ampere upgrade just means everyone else i know gets a upgrade as well. Got a friend who would prob kiss my feet if he got my 2080ti, he is 4k/8k scaling in most of his games and his 1080 ti could use a upgrade.

Given where the rest of the computers sit hardware wise, prob would put my old 1080ti into my best friends rig with my old i5 8400t , move his 3gb 1060 into the roomies rig with a 4gb gtx960. Should be a 50% increase i believe then in turn this htpc with a 660 will get a 4gb gtx960 which is like a 25% bump?

Edit: the guy with his 1080ti is extremely attached to his stuff, like me we connect i guess with the things that make memories and allows us to have fun. Its why i got a gtx285 in my closet with 20 odd hours on it. I had beautiful experiences back in the day on one. Based on his nostalgia i may not even do this 2080ti idea, i think of others over myself quite often when it comes to upgrades. His 660 in this htpc rig as we speak, we recycle and let the memories live on!
 
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Assimilator1

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Not like a B450 MSI B450 Tomahawk Max is a bad deal either for a 3900x at stock.
IIRC that was the mbrd I was looking at, good power delivery & cheap, but apparently a really badly implemented audio system! Hence I got the mbrd I have (see sig).
If it's just a crunching rig then I guess it doesn't matter ;), otherwise you might want to look into it.
 

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New version of f@h available. I don’t suppose updates are as easy as running the installer / rpm on top of an existing install?
I have now done it in windows and linux. In both cases, I lost most of my expert config (client-type=beta) and by slot config (I only had GPU, it deleted that and added CPU). But in both cases, it retained my identification and passkey and I just installed over the old. Windows had no prompts. Linux acted like it was a scratch install, but saved my identification.
 
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Ajay

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Too bad there isn't a built in auto update function. Then the built in installer could save off the config files and reload them when done. I extracted the exe with 7-zip, but not sure what the _xx.pvd files are (possibly still next extraction upon install - meh).
 

Ajay

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Still going to fold till the end of the month, since I didn't get in on the beginning of the challenge. Weird sound that sounded like the bearings were going on my Noctua fans disappeared (!) - so I've put off the installation of my AIO. Getting like, 1 or 2 GPU units per day right now - boo hoo.
 
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Pokey

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I have updated fahclient and fahcontol to 7.6.9
Here are the steps I took:
Set control to "finish" first and waited for the current wu to finish.
stopped client with term command: sudo /etc/init.d/FAHClient stop
Downloaded the files from fah website and installed on top of existing.
It kept all my settings including expert, and while it took a couple of minutes to get a new work unit, it did so without intervention from me. But it was NOT instantaneous.
Part of upgrade is an advanced choice of projects. With FAH Control select configuration>advanced tab. In dropdown box select project, or leave on all.
All my rigs are updated and working with minimum effort. (for Linux :))
There is still have some lag time on uploads and downloads.
 
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Assimilator1

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Wish I hadn't bothered updating now :mad:, apart from it didn't go to my default install place, when I removed the C drive one it also removed the F drive one & deleted my details! So I started over & now it refuses to put in the GPU slot after I deleted the CPU slot! And for once (recently) I actually have to get up slightly early tomorrow as well!
[edit]Restarted it, GPU slot is now there :), but the CPU slot has come back!
 
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New version of f@h available. I don’t suppose updates are as easy as running the installer / rpm on top of an existing install?
The announcement thread is here but there's no mention of preferred method of installation. There is a change log and apparently you can now choose Covid-19 as preferred disease.
@biodoc, the thread which you linked has been removed. But here is another one:
https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=34429

And there is a brief announcement on the main web site. It says that work is underway a) in bug tracking/ bug triage, and b) development of new open source F@h software with a plan to involve the wider community in development. (More info to be posted soon.)
 

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