Anandtech reviews the NV35! + Doom3 Benchmarks!!!

[GTaudiophile]

Don't want to agree with Kyle? FiringSquad concludes their review with this:

After an absence of over eight months, NVIDIA has finally returned to the high-end segment with the GeForce FX 5900 Ultra. In fact, they?re not only back in the game, NVIDIA?s 256MB GeForce FX 5900 Ultra is the fastest graphics accelerator on the market, albeit with slightly lesser image quality than ATI?s RADEON 9800 PRO.

Edit: ATi does have another answer...

An interesting tidbit of information to throw into the mix here is the fact that there is another R3XX card from ATI waiting in the wings. We are told that this VPU will show a significant performance increase over any chipsets on the market including NV35 as well as R350. Expect to see this new ATI card somewhere between mid to late summer if it stays on schedule.

 

[Mem]

GTaudiophile I think you`re missing the point,NV35 still has good image quality it`s not bad,if you want to talk about best image quality then Matrox is still king.

 

[TROGDORdBURNINATOR]

GTaudiophile, I think that in this case Nvidia has genuninely fixed their driver "issues" with IQ. I believe (but could be wrong) that they're referring to the amazing IQ of built by ATI cards at higher resolution (and at lower if you know what to look for) than nvidia cards which can be hit and miss. This isn't really an issue with the core or the drivers though. I do, of course, find it intersting that this is the case with an Nvidia reference board, though. Makes me wonder just what kind of standards they have for their board makers...

 

[kuk]

Gotta love Tom's remarks:

After being heavily criticized for its GeForce FX 5800 Ultra, which many viewed as a half-baked product, NVIDIA is launching its follow-up chip FX 5900 Ultra today. In addition to a 256-bit memory interface, the design has been refined and a few optimizations have been added. We are also proud to bring you the first exclusive benchmarks of a preview version of id software's hotly anticipated game, DOOM III.

Exclusive? Buahahhahahahaha
Somebody should teach them the meaning of exclusive.

 

[Wurrmm]

Originally posted by: TROGDORdBURNINATOR

Your acting worse than TROGDORdBURNINATOR was in a previous post.

I'm going to assume that you mean another thread. I wasn't being like this guy at all. All of my points were facts. YOu didn't like them and they made you angry...but they weren't like this guy. Besides, I've been pretty positive in this thread. Why you gotta' be a hater?

Though I thought your use of words and attitude was poor in another thread, this guy is actually far far worse than the way you were (note past tense). I must compliment you on your attitude and state of mind for your other posts here and in a few others. And TonyB, are you trying to get flamed or start a flame war???

 

[TonyB]

Originally posted by: Wurrmm
And TonyB, are you trying to get flamed or start a flame war???

i will welcome your flames with bullets and shoes!

 

[TROGDORdBURNINATOR]

i will welcome your flames with bullets and shoes!

troll v.,n. 1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." 3. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.

 

[TonyB]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile


An interesting tidbit of information to throw into the mix here is the fact that there is another R3XX card from ATI waiting in the wings. We are told that this VPU will show a significant performance increase over any chipsets on the market including NV35 as well as R350. Expect to see this new ATI card somewhere between mid to late summer if it stays on schedule.

...for me to POOP on!

 

[TROGDORdBURNINATOR]

An interesting tidbit of information to throw into the mix here is the fact that there is another R3XX card from ATI waiting in the wings. We are told that this VPU will show a significant performance increase over any chipsets on the market including NV35 as well as R350. Expect to see this new ATI card somewhere between mid to late summer if it stays on schedule.

!!!:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q:Q!!!
Who knew!?

 

[TonyB]

Originally posted by: TROGDORdBURNINATOR

i will welcome your flames with bullets and shoes!

for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait.

its only escalating into this because you fail to accept the fact that NVidia has the superior product. If you were to accept it and bow down to your new king then we would all be on the same wavelength here and everything would be cool.. but noooo!! you have to be all defiant

 

[TROGDORdBURNINATOR]

Actually, I did admit that Nv35 has a narrow lead. It must be hard boxing shadows...

 

[TonyB]

Originally posted by: TROGDORdBURNINATOR
Actually, I did admit that Nv35 has a narrow lead. It must be hard boxing shadows...

that unacceptable!! you have to admit that NVidia has the superior product and dont try to down play it by saying its a narrow lead. its actually a wide lead.. now bow down to your king!!! and lick the boots while youre at it

You've earned a week off for trolling.

 

[BentValve]

TonyB , its been nice knowing you.

 

[T9D]

..

 

[AthlonXP]

Originally posted by: BentValve
TonyB , its been nice knowing you.

 

[TROGDORdBURNINATOR]

"We were thrilled to see these scores at 1600x1200. I truly did not think this sort of frame rate at such a high resolution would even be within any system's grasp. At this crushing resolution we see the GeForceFX 5900 Ultra stay ahead of the 9800 Pro from 25% to 70% in frame rate."

Yep. That's very impressive alright. Keep in mind though that it's only one game. Not only is it only one game but it's a beta game which uses two rendering paths neither of which are finalized...
Don't make any conclusions on this alone.

 

[kuk]

Originally posted by: BentValve
TonyB , its been nice knowing you.

Hehe ... he reminds me of that kid running in the special olympics pic!

 

[Actaeon]

Its obvious TonyB is a nVidia fanboy, and TROGDORdBURNINATOR does speak for his employer. Its just a videocard people...

Anyway, I am happy Nvidia put out a high quality product. It'll drop the prices of R9700's, require ATi to produce a faster card, which in turn, makes Nvidia produce faster cards, and make prices drop even more for quality products! Good for Nvidia, best for the consumer.

I hope the 5900 Non-Ultra will perform almost as good, for a cheaper price.

I'll look at the budget-NV35, or a Radeon9700 this summer. Whatever fits my budget, fills my AGP slot.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: TROGDORdBURNINATOR
Actually, I did admit that Nv35 has a narrow lead. It must be hard boxing shadows...

That might be true in CPU limited games, but looking at games like Splinter Cell and DooM 3 that extensively stress GPU-intensive features like dynamic lighting, stencil buffers, and shader ops, the NV35 really puts a hurting on the R3XX line. For those looking to "future proof" their investment (I don't put much faith in the premise myself, but then again not everyone upgrades every 6 months ), it looks as if the NV35 is the first high-end card that will allow you to do so. Top-of-the-line performance for older games as well as high-end performance in future games.

Chiz

 

[Blackened]

Originally posted by: TROGDORdBURNINATOR
Actually, I did admit that Nv35 has a narrow lead. It must be hard boxing shadows...

You have an interesting definition of "narrow". In most of the benchmarks that stress video card performance, the nv35 trounced the 9800 pro easily. Hell, even in some of the games that stress the CPU more than video (comanche, ut2k3, etc) the nv35 still won handily.

Gotta love the fanboys...I just enjoy seeing ATI having some competition now.

 

[Leon]

Gotta love the fanboys...

Supposebly, he is ATI employee (although he changes his sig daily, so who knows).

Leon

 

[merlocka]

Originally posted by: TROGDORdBURNINATOR

"We were thrilled to see these scores at 1600x1200. I truly did not think this sort of frame rate at such a high resolution would even be within any system's grasp. At this crushing resolution we see the GeForceFX 5900 Ultra stay ahead of the 9800 Pro from 25% to 70% in frame rate."

Yep. That's very impressive alright. Keep in mind though that it's only one game. Not only is it only one game but it's a beta game which uses two rendering paths neither of which are finalized...
Don't make any conclusions on this alone.

John Carmack has described the demo we used as a random code drop from a recent build of DOOM 3 and he believes it to be representative of the final game in a performance sense.

Let me think....

Who's closer to the mark? The guy who wrote the engine, or a guy who works at a IHV which card just got beat pretty badly in the benchmark.

Dude, talking about the merits of ATI is one thing but an ATI employee being an evangelist is gonna start to annoy people.

edit - assuming you do work at ATI, which I'm beginning to hope is NOT the case.

 

[Blackened]

I wonder what he does at ATI anyway....lock the place up at night? Any other guesses?

Anyways I currently own a 9700 pro that I like alot, but the nv35 may very well be my next card.

 

[AthlonXP]

the mainsite is getting hammered, I can't even access it.

 

[Wurrmm]

The 5900 Ultra is definately my next card.