Anand off to San Fran, seeing something special !?

[Nemesis77]

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<< I gess ........... STMicro and kyro, it has been a while, and maby next gen is a killer.......

Yup, it's hard for me to believe there could be anything faster than the GF4 so soon though. >>



Suuure

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Haha, so far you're all talk and no walk with these Matrox fantasies. I guess we shall see... >>



Yep, we will see .

 

[xype]

I think I recall a Matrox interview some months ago where they said they are not going to target the market that ATI and NVidia are fighting about since they don't have the resources for it.

 

[Demonicon]

I'd say no one has figured it out yet.

My guess is that it will be something overhyped and mostly useless for the majority of users.
I guarantee it will be a let down when people find out what this "something special" is.

 

[microAmp]

<< I'd say no one has figured it out yet.
My guess is that it will be something overhyped and mostly useless for the majority of users.
I guarantee it will be a let down when people find out what this "something special" is. >>



That is what I'm beginning to think myself, hate to say it too. But it might be really cool or soemthing but not practical for us, or really expensive.

 

[BD231]

People tought AMD will never beat Intel at speed, that one never needs more than 64kb of memory, noone ever tought a consumer 3D board might do T&L, that 1 GB is a lot of hdd space, that ATI couldn't beat NVidia at speed, and so on. Well, there is much more to the hitech world that we are aware of. Take a look at transmeta - popped out of nowhere. AMD caught up with Intel and maybe there's a company giving demos at SF that will rock our world from the summer on. It's only those hardware site guys like teasing us too much

Yeah, and how many "YEARS" did all this take to change?, GF4 was "JUST" released, dose anyone need anything faster than a Ti4600? Not likely. Plus, not many companys try to come up with breath taking products anymore, they could risk producing a unaccepted product which dosn't bode well for their financial well being and reputation. If a new video card were to come out, it would be like the release of the GF3, just a bunch of potential waiting to be unleashed.

 

[xype]

<< Yeah, and how many "YEARS" did all this take to change?, GF4 was "JUST" released, dose anyone need anything faster than a Ti4600? Not likely. >>



It may not neccessary be a gfx card (many here are pointing to matrox) or something that we take for granted with computers (sound card, input devices, whatever). I only wanted to say that it _might_ be a _big_ leap like the original geforce was. And don't tell me noone needs anything faster than a GeForce 4. That is Bill Gates 64k ram talk.

 

[Nemesis77]

<< Yeah, and how many "YEARS" did all this take to change?, GF4 was "JUST" released, dose anyone need anything faster than a Ti4600? Not likely. Plus, not many companys try to come up with breath taking products anymore, they could risk producing a unaccepted product which dosn't bode well for their financial well being and reputation. If a new video card were to come out, it would be like the release of the GF3, just a bunch of potential waiting to be unleashed. >>



Sure someone could beat GF4, why couldn't they? I mean, AMD and Intel routinely outdo each other. One company releases a new CPU, a bit later other company releases their new CPU that is faster than the new CPU from their competitor.

GF4 is the fastest GPU right now. But it is not untouchable when it comes to performance. Having a competing GPU that beats GF4 is NOT an impossibility!

No-one needs insane power? I beg to differ. If I had video-card twice as powerful as GF4, I would propably play games at 1600x1200x32 with 2x FSAA. When the performance increases, so does my demands to it's capabilites. I'm planning to upgrade at the end of this year, and I will get the best that is available. It might be overkill then, but it wont be overkill few years down the road. And unlike some people, I don't upgrade my system every year.

 

[ElFenix]

the gf256 wasn't that big of an upgrade... it still had a useful life of just about the same amount as graphics cards before and since. maybe a little longer than previous cards since the pace of performance increases has slowed somewhat since the release of the gf2.

 

[BD231]

That is Bill Gates 64k ram talk



Sure someone could beat GF4, why couldn't they? I mean, AMD and Intel routinely outdo each other. One company releases a new CPU, a bit later other company releases their new CPU that is faster than the new CPU from their competitor.

GF4 is the fastest GPU right now. But it is not untouchable when it comes to performance. Having a competing GPU that beats GF4 is NOT an impossibility!

No-one needs insane power? I beg to differ. If I had video-card twice as powerful as GF4, I would propably play games at 1600x1200x32 with 2x FSAA. When the performance increases, so does my demands to it's capabilites. I'm planning to upgrade at the end of this year, and I will get the best that is available. It might be overkill then, but it wont be overkill few years down the road. And unlike some people, I don't upgrade my system every year.

I never once hinted it couldn't be done...

 

[odog]

Anand has already told us....

somebody we haven't heard of in a while..... matrox.... and/or 3dlabs are the only possiblities

with that said we already know that matrox's is using the code name "parhelia"

then Anand titles his next little tid bit "Bright days ahead" get it, "bright days" and "parhelia" which means three suns...


only other thing i can think of is gigapixel which is a true dark horse and still under the nvidia umbrella, but "is" a name we haven't heard in a while

 

[Nemesis77]

<< then Anand titles his next little tid bit "Bright days ahead" get it, "bright days" and "parhelia" which means three suns... >>



Gentlemen, I think we have a winner here

 

[MadRat]

Isn't MACworld in San Francisco? Perhaps its a MAC announcement related to OS/X.

 

[Piano Man]

e-phex, you are the man.

 

[BlvdKing]

I hope it's more than just a video card from Matrox...
An Apple with a Hammer CPU would be cool.

 

[LH]

As I said before it has something to do with gaming, unless of course there is a hardware expo between now and May 20. I dont think there is. Anand said a few weeks, few weeks = E3. Where better to launch a cutting edge video card than E3... All signs do point to Matrox. Its not going to be anything strictly for the MAC, they wouldnt launch something like that at E3 which is when I think they(whoever) will launch their product.

 

[Cygni]

I think e-phex might have gotten it.

But, A few techs that im expecting to get big soon enough are:

eDRAM -> Embeded DRAM. Rendition was working on this tech when they vanished into Mircron's empire. Maybe Matrox has picked up on this? Or maybe they have gone Tile based?

Computer-On-A-Chip -> Cyrix did it first with the MediaGX (Graphics on-die with the CPU). I remember hearing alot about a supposed Intel version with built in everything... AC97, SoftModem, SoftLAN, i752gfx, USB, IDE100, and PC133 support all in one huge die. I remember seeing a picture of a huge chip (2x S370) sitting on a board that was essentially only big enough for the plugs (USB/PS2/Monitor) to sit on. I thought it was supposed to debut this year at about 700mhz, but nobody has heard from it. AND remember, Intel is based in Santa Clara (about an hour out of San Fran) and we havent heard from Intel in a while.

Now, I may be a pretty big AMD fan, but a fully intergrated Computer on a Chip that could be bring big power to little appliances and palm tops, would DEFFINITLY be bad ass.

 

[kgraeme]

From HardOCP on the same day they talked about their insider's trip to San Fran:



<< TTZ looks at what is right now one hell of a video card buy, the Radeon 8500 retailing for around US$150 and lots lower some places...

One day you are fighting for the top, and the next day you are a value card. Who knows, the Ti could be next.
>>



Hmm....

 

[rickn]

well, if it is matrox, and if it is all it is cracked up to be, and its launch is anything like the G400MAX, don't expect to buy one til atleast 2003 <evil grin>

 

[CTho9305]

It is OBVIOUSLY this, since nobody has heard from trident in ages (like since the 8900 )

 

[CTho9305]

hahahahahhaa, they still have info about their 8900

 

[flood]

<- just had an idea.

From Tom:


<< It all bodes well for AMD's continued confidence in Hammer, or is there something else afoot? There's something else afoot. For some people it's going to be the equivalent of the discovery of the monolith in 2001: A Space Odysee >>



Both HardOCP and Anandtech are hinting at Matrox


<< Bright days ahead... >>




<< One day you are fighting for the top, and the next day you are a value card. Who knows, the Ti could be next. >>



Quoting e-phex,


<< "parhelia" which means three suns... >>



A Matrox video card would satisfy both HardOCP and Anandtech, but what is Tom talking about?
Assuming hes talking about the same product, and how "parhelia" means three suns....
Heres a solution that satisfies it all:
Matrox is getting into the motherboard industry with a new graphics chipset. 3chips being a video, a northbridge, and a southbridge. Perhaps its 3 products in one or two chips like the NForce? And to satisfy Tom, this is designed for an amd system. Maybe the hammer series?

Then again, I could be completely wrong.

 

[BD231]

flood-

AMD stated that Hammer chipsets would only be available from AMD at it's release, so dosn't a chipset hybrid for the hammer seems a little unlikely?

 

[flood]

<< flood-

AMD stated that Hammer chipsets would only be available from AMD at it's release, so dosn't a chipset hybrid for the hammer seems a little unlikely? >>



good point, maybe its for tbred/athlons?

 

[BD231]

good point, maybe its for tbred/athlons?

Well the T-Bred is suppose to be a die shrink of the AXP with the possibility of 512k L2 and nothing else. If the T-Bred were to require a new chipset, that would really deminish the value of a T-Bred, or at least in my eye's it would. Plus, the Athlon will become outdated soon with all this hammer talk. I think all the hints that have been givin strongly point to an add in card(3D Accl.), or that "Monolith" from AMD.

 

[flood]

<< good point, maybe its for tbred/athlons?

Well the T-Bred is suppose to be a die shrink of the AXP with the possibility of 512k L2 and nothing else. If the T-Bred were to require a new chipset, that would really deminish the value of a T-Bred, or at least in my eye's it would. Plus, the Athlon will become outdated soon with all this hammer talk. I think all the hints that have been givin strongly point to an add in card(3D Accl.), or that "Monolith" from AMD. >>



I mean its designed to work with the tbred/athlon - not to say that the tbred needs a new chipset.
Still, i could be completely wrong, in which case Tom is on to something we cant speculate about yet. No hints from him yet.