Ana Orders 50 Boeing 7E7
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Originally posted by: gsaldivar
Great news!
:beer:
*waits for liberals to piss on the parade*
No piss, but interesting how this is such a big deal, it shouldn't be.
CaptnKirk
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Can you say "Outsourcing" ?
2/3 will be built by overseas companies, and before you point out that
'Oh, Look - there are parts being built in the Witchata plant, remember -
Boeing is selling off the Witchata plant, and the comparison to the '717'
(the old M-95 derivative) they cancelled that model.
Boeing is a final assy shop now, they don't make anything in the U.S. anymore,
or at least only a fraction of what they used to.
2/3 will be built by overseas companies, and before you point out that
'Oh, Look - there are parts being built in the Witchata plant, remember -
Boeing is selling off the Witchata plant, and the comparison to the '717'
(the old M-95 derivative) they cancelled that model.
Boeing is a final assy shop now, they don't make anything in the U.S. anymore,
or at least only a fraction of what they used to.
Perhaps they should fire/layoff all Americans, then...then you would have a topic for some more lame posts.
Come on cons, now surely it would be so much better for Washingtons economy which would be good for the US economy if they (boeing) could muster the balls to try their best and keep as many of the jobs related to the production of the 7E7's here in the good old US. Wouldn't it just give you a warm fuzzy feeling to know that the new plane you are flying on was manufactured and assembled here? Guess not.
Can you say Good Outsourcing vs. Bad Outsourcing? Were therse planes meant for a foreign market no big deal. Still sucks but hey, someone else is getting the final product. Must be a bitch on quality control when the planes are being peiced together around the globe and sent back in a box for final assembly. Won't be first in line for the maiden voyage.
Can you say Good Outsourcing vs. Bad Outsourcing? Were therse planes meant for a foreign market no big deal. Still sucks but hey, someone else is getting the final product. Must be a bitch on quality control when the planes are being peiced together around the globe and sent back in a box for final assembly. Won't be first in line for the maiden voyage.
CaptnKirk
Lifer
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You really don't get it do you ?
Where in the hell do we let 'Foriegn' buisness investments take
precedence over our domestic aircraft work.
Never put a foriegn contractor in a leverage position over your products.
When you do that you loose control of your destiny.
It's bad enough that we have, through mergers, allowed 90 % of our Aerospace
expertise to be absorbed by unfriendly mergers and acquisitions - there are only
3 major players left in the U.S. now, there were over 40 just 30 years ago.
To let foriegn labor be the outsourced labor force for our Government
subsidized Defense Dontractor base is absurd.
Where in the hell do we let 'Foriegn' buisness investments take
precedence over our domestic aircraft work.
Never put a foriegn contractor in a leverage position over your products.
When you do that you loose control of your destiny.
It's bad enough that we have, through mergers, allowed 90 % of our Aerospace
expertise to be absorbed by unfriendly mergers and acquisitions - there are only
3 major players left in the U.S. now, there were over 40 just 30 years ago.
To let foriegn labor be the outsourced labor force for our Government
subsidized Defense Dontractor base is absurd.
What do you want then? An all-American 7E7 that would get crushed by Airbus which is subsidized heavily by the EU? Boeing could never compete with Airbus in that case. The only reason these 7E7's were bought by ANA was because Japanese Aerospace companies have a huge stake in manufacturing it.
Get over it people. International networked manufacturing is the wave of the future. This is no longer the 1960's.
What we need and I'm sure we'll get when business interests demand it, is an attack by aliens from Mars. We can then again shift the us against them debate.
Guess we'll never know what an "All American" plane or product is ever again. We'll also have no idea what hit us when a "Foreign" Entity waving the Global Banner wipes us out either.
Here is a link along those lines"
4-27-2004 Last Oldsmobile to Roll Off Assembly Line That Started in 1897.
LANSING, Mich. - The Oldsmobile, the line of cars that started out in 1897 and featured models such as the Rocket 88 and the muscular 442, is coming to an end this week.
The last Olds, an Alero, is due to roll off an assembly line Thursday in Lansing, the same city where the brand was born.
General Motors Corp. had announced in December 2000 that it would discontinue the Oldsmobile, the oldest automotive brand name in U.S. history.
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What do you want? Boeing to outsource all jobs so they can be price competitive with government subsidized Airbus. So your answer to foreign government subsidies is not to take it out on foreign governments with tarrifs, but to take it out on American workers with layoffs?
Boeing Commercial Airplanes is only alive today because of outsourcing, it's true.
Boeing was predicted to be out of the commerical airplane sector in 2010. The 7E7 is the last hope and 50 orders from ANA was a major savior. Recognize it foo!
Without outsourcing, thousands of more workers would have been laid off. Better some than ALL, right?
Boeing was predicted to be out of the commerical airplane sector in 2010. The 7E7 is the last hope and 50 orders from ANA was a major savior. Recognize it foo!
Without outsourcing, thousands of more workers would have been laid off. Better some than ALL, right?
If they are going to still claim to be an American Company then the hell with them, send their butts over to whatever Country of Origin they really are.
CaptnKirk
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So then, everyone is content with giving Japan and China the inside track on building
advanced aerospace vehicles, only 6 years after the Government brutally punished
the McDonnel Douglas Company - just before theu awarded the JSF to Lockheed.
The last super industry in the country - that which gave direction to the world
we just hand over to our compeditiors because they are cheaper.
O.K. suits me, the ChiComs built a hell of a fighter by hand with inferior equipment
all through the '50's & 60's, old MiG-17 was a tough bird, few parts were interchangable.
So let's just give them all the technological knowledge and skills to go along with their
fastidious handcrafting skills, bet that when we turn our backs to rake in the corporate
profits it won't take them long to mount a major threat through a clandestine operation.
Yeah - let's just give them the technology to really become a threat to us,
that will justify the StarWars interceptors that Bush has always wanted to play with.
It's stupid to give up a technology that can be turned into a threat against our nation.
Airbus - and believe it or not - France, are not a threat to our national security.
advanced aerospace vehicles, only 6 years after the Government brutally punished
the McDonnel Douglas Company - just before theu awarded the JSF to Lockheed.
The last super industry in the country - that which gave direction to the world
we just hand over to our compeditiors because they are cheaper.
O.K. suits me, the ChiComs built a hell of a fighter by hand with inferior equipment
all through the '50's & 60's, old MiG-17 was a tough bird, few parts were interchangable.
So let's just give them all the technological knowledge and skills to go along with their
fastidious handcrafting skills, bet that when we turn our backs to rake in the corporate
profits it won't take them long to mount a major threat through a clandestine operation.
Yeah - let's just give them the technology to really become a threat to us,
that will justify the StarWars interceptors that Bush has always wanted to play with.
It's stupid to give up a technology that can be turned into a threat against our nation.
Airbus - and believe it or not - France, are not a threat to our national security.
I'm sure it's "sweet" for the top execs but not for anyone else down whatever is left of their chain. :|
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