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Ana Orders 50 Boeing 7E7

Dreamliners ? Order Triggers Formal Program Launch ? ? 50 New Airplanes to Join Fleet Starting in 2008 ?



ANA (All Nippon Airways) today became the launch customer for the Boeing 7E7, when its Board of Directors approved the purchase of 50 of the new aircraft type, with deliveries to begin in 2008.



ANA will announce its engine choice for the 7E7 at a later date. It will select from the General Electric GENX, and the Trent 1000 engine from Rolls Royce. Both will be capable of providing 55,000-70,000 lb. of thrust. ANA also will determine the most suitable method of finance by the time of delivery of the aircraft.



ANA President and CEO Yoji Ohashi said, ?ANA?s selection of the Boeing 7E7 is consistent with our stated goal to operate the safest, most modern, efficient and comfortable fleet of aircraft in the world. With today?s order we have taken a major step toward achieving another goal, of reducing the number of aircraft types we operate to just three.



?The 7E7 meets ANA?s requirements in safety, reliability, comfort and economics, and supports the plans to grow and strengthen our route network, with the expansion of domestic flights from Tokyo Haneda Airport and the growth of regional service within Asia, particularly to China,? Mr. Ohashi said, adding that ANA will benefit to the amount of Y10 billion (over US 90 million) per year thanks to the greater operating efficiencies and capacity of the lighter, more fuel efficient 7E7.

Good news for Boeing.
 
Can you say "Outsourcing" ?

2/3 will be built by overseas companies, and before you point out that
'Oh, Look - there are parts being built in the Witchata plant, remember -
Boeing is selling off the Witchata plant, and the comparison to the '717'
(the old M-95 derivative) they cancelled that model.

Boeing is a final assy shop now, they don't make anything in the U.S. anymore,
or at least only a fraction of what they used to.
 
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Can you say "Outsourcing" ?

2/3 will be built by overseas companies, and before you point out that
'Oh, Look - there are parts being built in the Witchata plant, remember -
Boeing is selling off the Witchata plant, and the comparison to the '717'
(the old M-95 derivative) they cancelled that model.

Boeing is a final assy shop now, they don't make anything in the U.S. anymore,
or at least only a fraction of what they used to.

Another reason Boeing and the rest have no reason to be claiming they are an "American" Company.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Can you say "Outsourcing" ?

2/3 will be built by overseas companies, and before you point out that
'Oh, Look - there are parts being built in the Witchata plant, remember -
Boeing is selling off the Witchata plant, and the comparison to the '717'
(the old M-95 derivative) they cancelled that model.

Boeing is a final assy shop now, they don't make anything in the U.S. anymore,
or at least only a fraction of what they used to.

Another reason Boeing and the rest have no reason to be claiming they are an "American" Company.

Perhaps they should fire/layoff all Americans, then...then you would have a topic for some more lame posts.
 
Come on cons, now surely it would be so much better for Washingtons economy which would be good for the US economy if they (boeing) could muster the balls to try their best and keep as many of the jobs related to the production of the 7E7's here in the good old US. Wouldn't it just give you a warm fuzzy feeling to know that the new plane you are flying on was manufactured and assembled here? Guess not.

Can you say Good Outsourcing vs. Bad Outsourcing? Were therse planes meant for a foreign market no big deal. Still sucks but hey, someone else is getting the final product. Must be a bitch on quality control when the planes are being peiced together around the globe and sent back in a box for final assembly. Won't be first in line for the maiden voyage. 🙂
 
You really don't get it do you ?

Where in the hell do we let 'Foriegn' buisness investments take
precedence over our domestic aircraft work.

Never put a foriegn contractor in a leverage position over your products.
When you do that you loose control of your destiny.

It's bad enough that we have, through mergers, allowed 90 % of our Aerospace
expertise to be absorbed by unfriendly mergers and acquisitions - there are only
3 major players left in the U.S. now, there were over 40 just 30 years ago.
To let foriegn labor be the outsourced labor force for our Government
subsidized Defense Dontractor base is absurd.
 
What do you want then? An all-American 7E7 that would get crushed by Airbus which is subsidized heavily by the EU? Boeing could never compete with Airbus in that case. The only reason these 7E7's were bought by ANA was because Japanese Aerospace companies have a huge stake in manufacturing it.
 
Get over it people. International networked manufacturing is the wave of the future. This is no longer the 1960's.
 
What we need and I'm sure we'll get when business interests demand it, is an attack by aliens from Mars. We can then again shift the us against them debate.
 
Originally posted by: Passions
What do you want then? An all-American 7E7 that would get crushed by Airbus which is subsidized heavily by the EU? Boeing could never compete with Airbus in that case. The only reason these 7E7's were bought by ANA was because Japanese Aerospace companies have a huge stake in manufacturing it.

Guess we'll never know what an "All American" plane or product is ever again. We'll also have no idea what hit us when a "Foreign" Entity waving the Global Banner wipes us out either.

Here is a link along those lines"

4-27-2004 Last Oldsmobile to Roll Off Assembly Line That Started in 1897.

LANSING, Mich. - The Oldsmobile, the line of cars that started out in 1897 and featured models such as the Rocket 88 and the muscular 442, is coming to an end this week.

The last Olds, an Alero, is due to roll off an assembly line Thursday in Lansing, the same city where the brand was born.

General Motors Corp. had announced in December 2000 that it would discontinue the Oldsmobile, the oldest automotive brand name in U.S. history.
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🙁
 
Originally posted by: Passions
What do you want then? An all-American 7E7 that would get crushed by Airbus which is subsidized heavily by the EU? Boeing could never compete with Airbus in that case. The only reason these 7E7's were bought by ANA was because Japanese Aerospace companies have a huge stake in manufacturing it.

What do you want? Boeing to outsource all jobs so they can be price competitive with government subsidized Airbus. So your answer to foreign government subsidies is not to take it out on foreign governments with tarrifs, but to take it out on American workers with layoffs?
 
Boeing Commercial Airplanes is only alive today because of outsourcing, it's true.

Boeing was predicted to be out of the commerical airplane sector in 2010. The 7E7 is the last hope and 50 orders from ANA was a major savior. Recognize it foo!

Without outsourcing, thousands of more workers would have been laid off. Better some than ALL, right?
 
Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Passions
What do you want then? An all-American 7E7 that would get crushed by Airbus which is subsidized heavily by the EU? Boeing could never compete with Airbus in that case. The only reason these 7E7's were bought by ANA was because Japanese Aerospace companies have a huge stake in manufacturing it.

What do you want? Boeing to outsource all jobs so they can be price competitive with government subsidized Airbus. So your answer to foreign government subsidies is not to take it out on foreign governments with tarrifs, but to take it out on American workers with layoffs?

If they are going to still claim to be an American Company then the hell with them, send their butts over to whatever Country of Origin they really are.
 
So then, everyone is content with giving Japan and China the inside track on building
advanced aerospace vehicles, only 6 years after the Government brutally punished
the McDonnel Douglas Company - just before theu awarded the JSF to Lockheed.

The last super industry in the country - that which gave direction to the world
we just hand over to our compeditiors because they are cheaper.

O.K. suits me, the ChiComs built a hell of a fighter by hand with inferior equipment
all through the '50's & 60's, old MiG-17 was a tough bird, few parts were interchangable.

So let's just give them all the technological knowledge and skills to go along with their
fastidious handcrafting skills, bet that when we turn our backs to rake in the corporate
profits it won't take them long to mount a major threat through a clandestine operation.

Yeah - let's just give them the technology to really become a threat to us,
that will justify the StarWars interceptors that Bush has always wanted to play with.

It's stupid to give up a technology that can be turned into a threat against our nation.
Airbus - and believe it or not - France, are not a threat to our national security.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Can you say "Outsourcing" ?

2/3 will be built by overseas companies, and before you point out that
'Oh, Look - there are parts being built in the Witchata plant, remember -
Boeing is selling off the Witchata plant, and the comparison to the '717'
(the old M-95 derivative) they cancelled that model.

Boeing is a final assy shop now, they don't make anything in the U.S. anymore,
or at least only a fraction of what they used to.

Another reason Boeing and the rest have no reason to be claiming they are an "American" Company.

Why should boeing refuse a sweet deal offered by japan and italy?
 
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Can you say "Outsourcing" ?

2/3 will be built by overseas companies, and before you point out that
'Oh, Look - there are parts being built in the Witchata plant, remember -
Boeing is selling off the Witchata plant, and the comparison to the '717'
(the old M-95 derivative) they cancelled that model.

Boeing is a final assy shop now, they don't make anything in the U.S. anymore,
or at least only a fraction of what they used to.

Another reason Boeing and the rest have no reason to be claiming they are an "American" Company.

Why should boeing refuse a sweet deal offered by japan and italy?

I'm sure it's "sweet" for the top execs but not for anyone else down whatever is left of their chain. :|
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Can you say "Outsourcing" ?

2/3 will be built by overseas companies, and before you point out that
'Oh, Look - there are parts being built in the Witchata plant, remember -
Boeing is selling off the Witchata plant, and the comparison to the '717'
(the old M-95 derivative) they cancelled that model.

Boeing is a final assy shop now, they don't make anything in the U.S. anymore,
or at least only a fraction of what they used to.

Another reason Boeing and the rest have no reason to be claiming they are an "American" Company.

Why should boeing refuse a sweet deal offered by japan and italy?

I'm sure it's "sweet" for the top execs but not for anyone else down whatever is left of their chain. :|

lower costs of production will save everyone in the end.....
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Can you say "Outsourcing" ?

2/3 will be built by overseas companies, and before you point out that
'Oh, Look - there are parts being built in the Witchata plant, remember -
Boeing is selling off the Witchata plant, and the comparison to the '717'
(the old M-95 derivative) they cancelled that model.

Boeing is a final assy shop now, they don't make anything in the U.S. anymore,
or at least only a fraction of what they used to.

Another reason Boeing and the rest have no reason to be claiming they are an "American" Company.

Why should boeing refuse a sweet deal offered by japan and italy?

I'm sure it's "sweet" for the top execs but not for anyone else down whatever is left of their chain. :|


It's a business, not a charitable entity.
 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Can you say "Outsourcing" ?

2/3 will be built by overseas companies, and before you point out that
'Oh, Look - there are parts being built in the Witchata plant, remember -
Boeing is selling off the Witchata plant, and the comparison to the '717'
(the old M-95 derivative) they cancelled that model.

Boeing is a final assy shop now, they don't make anything in the U.S. anymore,
or at least only a fraction of what they used to.

Another reason Boeing and the rest have no reason to be claiming they are an "American" Company.

Why should boeing refuse a sweet deal offered by japan and italy?

I'm sure it's "sweet" for the top execs but not for anyone else down whatever is left of their chain. :|


It's a business, not a charitable entity.

Yep, we'd all be in Mud pits under your rule :roll:
 
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