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An Armed Citizen With A Permit Stopped The Last VA College Shooting Rampage
- Thread starter fisheerman
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fisheerman
Senior member
fixed sorry
By two people with guns actually. What no one on the "yeah gotta have my 6 shooter with me at all times crowd" mentions is that ONE OF THEM WAS A OFF DUTY OR FORMER LEO, different sources say differently! So one would expect that he took control of the situation and once the murderer was subdued made sure that all weapons where out of reach of the murder and the people who subdued him, in plain site, and as soon as the police arrived in loud contact with the police who where coming on the scene.
Now how many of the yahoo gotta carry at all times crowd would know or have the ability in a stress situation to handle themselves correctly? 1 in 20 if that!
And if somebody else has a gun and sees you running with one, what is going to stop him from assuming you're not the bad guy and popping one off at you?
YOU'RE the one that needs to wake up and realize this isn't the movies, and if you're running around trying to be a hero, other people with hero complexes are going to be as trigger happy as you, and seeing you running around with a gun, will probably gun you down... or you'll shoot the wrong person.
Ahhh.. another MUST CARRY GUN, DON"T KNOW HOW TO USE GUN, MUST CARRY GUN! advocate.
Nowhere have I advocated banning guns. Now banning idiots that think(?) returning to the Wild West will make this country safer from carry permits and hand gun ownership might not be a bad idea.
JD50
Lifer
Well first of all you'd have to assess the situation and not just shoot someone that you see holding a gun. Lets see we have one guy with a bandolier of ammo shooting unarmed people and you have another guy hiding around a corner with his gun trying to aim in on the guy shooting unarmed people.....Second, do you have any evidence to back up your theory because there is plenty of evidence saying the exact opposite, mainly the OP. There are plenty of states that issue CCW permits so it really shouldn't be too hard for you to find all of these types of scenarios playing out the way that you think it would.
BTW, I'm not sure why you say that I'm "trigger happy" just because I am a proponent of concealed carry....
funboy6942
Lifer
I stick by what I said before. I think all schools should arm and train all the people who work at the schools. It would either stop all school killings, or atleast prevents a larger number of innocent kids being killed because a trained teacher could take out the would be shooter before they went on a shooting spree.
Metal detectors don't work, counseling doesn't work, but I bet if all the teachers, and staff was armed, none of the student would dare thing to whip out a gun, and take out other students for fear they may be shot, not in a life threating way, may live to see another day and pay for what they tried to do, and not get the easy way out.
You take away the gun control, and the nuts, and the ones who will break the law, will still have them, and can do what they want at will, who is to stop them, when the decent, law abiding, citizens, dont have a way to protect themselves, and by the time the cops show up, to many people have already lost their lives.
In a perfect world, trying to take guns off the street will only take the guns out of the hands of the sane, law abiding people. The whack jobs, and criminals, will see it as a open door to do what ever they like for no fear of anyone shooting them back, other then another criminal, or whack job, and that wont happen. Do you think if they passed a no gun law a criminal, or whacko will give a rats ass? Hell no, they will go out and shoot who ever, when ever, who is to stop them, because Johnny do good wont break the law and gave up his gun so he cannot shoot back. So criminal with a gun, or you with a empty hand, who do you think will win?
So you pack all the teachers with heat, and the only time they draw is when one of these kids decide they want to go shooting other kids, then they take them out right then and there. Less innocent kids die, and that one, may still live to pay for what he/she has done. Nothing else will work, IMO.
Metal detectors don't work, counseling doesn't work, but I bet if all the teachers, and staff was armed, none of the student would dare thing to whip out a gun, and take out other students for fear they may be shot, not in a life threating way, may live to see another day and pay for what they tried to do, and not get the easy way out.
You take away the gun control, and the nuts, and the ones who will break the law, will still have them, and can do what they want at will, who is to stop them, when the decent, law abiding, citizens, dont have a way to protect themselves, and by the time the cops show up, to many people have already lost their lives.
In a perfect world, trying to take guns off the street will only take the guns out of the hands of the sane, law abiding people. The whack jobs, and criminals, will see it as a open door to do what ever they like for no fear of anyone shooting them back, other then another criminal, or whack job, and that wont happen. Do you think if they passed a no gun law a criminal, or whacko will give a rats ass? Hell no, they will go out and shoot who ever, when ever, who is to stop them, because Johnny do good wont break the law and gave up his gun so he cannot shoot back. So criminal with a gun, or you with a empty hand, who do you think will win?
So you pack all the teachers with heat, and the only time they draw is when one of these kids decide they want to go shooting other kids, then they take them out right then and there. Less innocent kids die, and that one, may still live to pay for what he/she has done. Nothing else will work, IMO.
So of all the times a citizen has used their weapon to protect themselves and the lives of others has your hypothetical BS ever happened?
I don't see how you can not see all the GOOD that came from this story. It happens all the time, just not reported and many times the fact that the victim used a weapon to protect themselves is left out of the news.
Yeah, as if a digg article from the source 'cyber news' is really credible.
And you really think innocent people with handguns have never been gunned down before because of mis-identifying? Even cops have been known to shoot and killed kids with toy guns, let alone citizens with real guns.
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