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How much is the Samsung 7nm EUV process expected to provide in terms of gains?
How will the RTX components be scaled/developed?
Any major architectural enhancements expected?
Will VRAM be bumped to 16/12/12 for the top three?
Will there be further fragmentation in the lineup? (Keeping turing at cheaper prices, while offering 'beefed up RTX' options at the top?)
Will the top card be capable of >4K60, at least 90?
Would Nvidia ever consider an HBM implementation in the gaming lineup?
Will Nvidia introduce new proprietary technologies again?

Sorry if imprudent/uncalled for, just interested in the forum member's thoughts.
 
Glo. said:
Then why we had a discussion about next gen XX80 Ti GPU in the first place?
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Ehh, what? You tell me. I just said that if the situation was similar to Turing then they could technically release a Ti and that I don't expect them to just release Titan for gaming. You know very well how you responded...

But in any case, I'd expect customer products to arrive next autumn/winter what ever they might be. Considering the current situation around the globe though, I wouldn't be surprised if things get pushed.
 
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Bouowmx said:
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No news release for GTC.
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Its the right decision. Anything they announce now will just get swallowed by everything else going on.
 
Ray Traced Mincecraft looks like it has a ton of stutter. Hopefully just because of early builds, but it might just be a general lack of raytracing grunt.
 
So glad i picked up this used 1080ti more and more with every single day. I guess rumors or possible confirmation that just maybe Ampere may be pushed till Q4 cause of things and well human malware. Man this may be the first time in history my not giving a dang anymore gauge has went into the red and broke from the pressure. Only Cyberpunk2077 catching my eye and i got a feeling its not gonna punish my 1080ti at a measily 1080p. My 7700k may be hurting but ain't no big thing,i swap over to a 3700x/Comet Lake and i'm good.

I guess the 1080p Freesynch monitor was a good choice,helps with upgrade itch as the 1080ti is vast overkill currently for 1080p with what i play. Come on Big Navi bring it baby. MAYBE if Cyber shows the 1080ti who's boss, i may swap to it. Losing so much interest in pc gaming and this human malware thing has me sitting here more often in front of the pc more bored then i been since 2010 when i sold my rig and spent a entire year on a dual core till Sandy and BC2 caught my attention in 2011.

Dark times for pc gaming it feels like, so tempted to even sell off this thing while it has worth but i think people are having other priorities and i don't blame them for that.
 
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mopardude87 said:
I guess the 1080p Freesynch monitor was a good choice,helps with upgrade itch as the 1080ti is vast overkill currently for 1080p with what i play. Come on Big Navi bring it baby. MAYBE if Cyber shows the 1080ti who's boss, i may swap to it. Losing so much interest in pc gaming and this human malware thing has me sitting here more often in front of the pc more bored then i been since 2010 when i sold my rig and spent a entire year on a dual core till Sandy and BC2 caught my attention in 2011.
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- My trigger finger is hovering over a 1440P 144hz freesync monitor so I can get the most out of my current set-up and the crusty old games I play for the same reason.

GPUs have been stuck in price/performance no-man's-land for a while now, so I'm not interested in picking up additional performance supply... so I might as well crank up performance demand!
 
GodisanAtheist said:
- My trigger finger is hovering over a 1440P 144hz freesync monitor so I can get the most out of my current set-up and the crusty old games I play for the same reason.

GPUs have been stuck in price/performance no-man's-land for a while now, so I'm not interested in picking up additional performance supply... so I might as well crank up performance demand!
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Now when i sit and think on things, i pretty much only maybe need a cpu upgrade sometime late this year or maybe next year. For what i currently play, i am beyond happy with the performance. I just know the 7700k will tank by 2021. I won't lose sleep if the 1080ti manhandles games next year at 1080p as well as long as rt options are disabled. I could care less for rt till its a viable affordable option.

If games stink this year or don't deliver,i got no issues saving my money and putting that into a 360 magnum crate motor i wanna drop into a dart/duster next year. Possibly this year actually if nothing interests me on the pc that is. Not even caring honestly, been let down so much with pc gaming lately. I want something to excite me again. I only hope Cyberpunk2077/4000 series from AMD does that.
 
mopardude87 said:
So glad i picked up this used 1080ti more and more with every single day. I guess rumors or possible confirmation that just maybe Ampere may be pushed till Q4 cause of things and well human malware. Man this may be the first time in history my not giving a dang anymore gauge has went into the red and broke from the pressure. Only Cyberpunk2077 catching my eye and i got a feeling its not gonna punish my 1080ti at a measily 1080p. My 7700k may be hurting but ain't no big thing,i swap over to a 3700x/Comet Lake and i'm good.

I guess the 1080p Freesynch monitor was a good choice,helps with upgrade itch as the 1080ti is vast overkill currently for 1080p with what i play. Come on Big Navi bring it baby. MAYBE if Cyber shows the 1080ti who's boss, i may swap to it. Losing so much interest in pc gaming and this human malware thing has me sitting here more often in front of the pc more bored then i been since 2010 when i sold my rig and spent a entire year on a dual core till Sandy and BC2 caught my attention in 2011.

Dark times for pc gaming it feels like, so tempted to even sell off this thing while it has worth but i think people are having other priorities and i don't blame them for that.
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My plan on the 3000 series was to wait until Black Friday for the initial rush to be over. Hopefully I can still old that timeframe.
 
JTsyo said:
My plan on the 3000 series was to wait until Black Friday for the initial rush to be over. Hopefully I can still old that timeframe.
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Have changed my mind since my last post, i am putting a 2080ti in the tower to fold in May. That and prob jumping to 2k sometime perhaps before October. First going with a 3700x/16gb/x570 upgrade the second the stimulus comes in. Prob putting it to work too, eventually will drop in a discounted 3950x or perhaps a 4000 series in a year or few?
 
NVIDIA's patent for a scalable multi die distributed, tile based DNN chip. From Mobile to Automotive and datacenter.

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A distributed deep neural net (DNN) utilizing a distributed, tile-based architecture implemented on a semiconductor package. The package includes multiple chips, each with a central processing element, a global memory buffer, and processing elements. Each processing element includes a weight buffer, an activation buffer, and multiply-accumulate units to combine, in parallel, the weight values and the activation values.


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Huh, how is this related to Ampere or any other "gaming" GPU? This has been rumored about Hopper as I remember correctly.
 
NostaSeronx said:
Ampere is just Turing on a new node. Hopper is the next-gen GPU.
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Expect significant changes to the RTRT pipeline to make it more compatible with the DX12_2 way of doing things.

Plus maybe some other stuff. Hard to imagine not working on the core, but there won't be anything huge on this front
 
uzzi38 said:
Expect significant changes to the RTRT pipeline to make it more compatible with the DX12_2 way of doing things.
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But, which one will get it?
3000 RTX series?
2000 GTX series?
uzzi38 said:
Plus maybe some other stuff. Hard to imagine not working on the core, but there won't be anything huge on this front
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Ampere is the continuation of the 10nm project. Anything that didn't make it to the port-backward for Turing will be in the port-forward Ampere.

The only thing that has been speculated is that it is post-Volta in cases where Turing was Volta-esque:

1. Turing Tuning Guide — Turing Tuning Guide 13.2 documentation

The programming guide to tuning CUDA Applications for GPUs based on the NVIDIA Turing Architecture.
docs.nvidia.com docs.nvidia.com
 
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uzzi38 said:
Expect significant changes to the RTRT pipeline to make it more compatible with the DX12_2 way of doing things.

Plus maybe some other stuff. Hard to imagine not working on the core, but there won't be anything huge on this front
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Even if rasterization performance will not go up, the Ray Tracing will go through the roof, of next gen Nvidia GPUs.
 
NostaSeronx said:
But, which one will get it?
3000 RTX series?
2000 GTX series?
Ampere is the continuation of the 10nm project. Anything that didn't make it to the port-backward for Turing will be in the port-forward Ampere.

The only thing that has been speculated is that it is post-Volta in cases where Turing was Volta-esque:

1. Turing Tuning Guide — Turing Tuning Guide 13.2 documentation

The programming guide to tuning CUDA Applications for GPUs based on the NVIDIA Turing Architecture.
docs.nvidia.com docs.nvidia.com
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The RTX side. Like I said, changes need to be made to make the pipeline better suited to DX12_2. Turing isn't optimal for it, there is a lot of performance to be gained in that regard, plus Nvidia will want to also push raw throughput.
 
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What about Desktop graphics?
 
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