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Stuka87

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Those "leakers" are the same. They change their statements every time. Kopite, he doesn't seem to be legit. He said 3080 Ti would be 384-bit 12GB and that it would be 320-bit 20GB later and then it could be a new GA103-based chip. Why would NVIDIA design another silicon with 6 GPCs when they already have GA102 with 7 GPCs?

He's now saying 3080 Ti could be GA102 384-bit 12GB, GA102 320-bit 20GB or GA103 320-bit 10GB. He literally couldn't be wrong since he's made every prediction. I don't trust those guys.
God forbid somebody update what is expected based off newer information.
 
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Ajay

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God forbid somebody update what is expected based off newer information.
God forgive anyone who throws out a bunch of options saying it’s a mess and he doesn’t know what the real names are. He’s spitballing based on a host of rumors. He doesn’t actually know what’s really going on right now. It doesn’t matter how accurate he was in the past.
 

Mopetar

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So you'd rather he didn't share information that he has? It isn't like he has a YouTube channel to soak ad revenue from all of it and he isn't claiming any of it is a solid guarantee either.
 

Tup3x

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I don't think so. What he's posted is probably real and is/was in consideration for Nvidia, but not all of it will end up being released. He acknowledges that it's a mess himself, but I don't think it's because he's being fed false information.
I have no reason to doubt him given his perfect track record concerning Ampere leaks, long before launch.
Could make sense if they plan to retire GA104 as mobile only chip.
 

Glo.

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Those "leakers" are the same. They change their statements every time. Kopite, he doesn't seem to be legit. He said 3080 Ti would be 384-bit 12GB and that it would be 320-bit 20GB later and then it could be a new GA103-based chip. Why would NVIDIA design another silicon with 6 GPCs when they already have GA102 with 7 GPCs?

He's now saying 3080 Ti could be GA102 384-bit 12GB, GA102 320-bit 20GB or GA103 320-bit 10GB. He literally couldn't be wrong since he's made every prediction. I don't trust those guys.
Then you cleatly have zero idea who Kopite is.

If anything his info indicates that Nvidia constantly changes plans, about SKU lineup/stack.
 
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Glo.

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God forgive anyone who throws out a bunch of options saying it’s a mess and he doesn’t know what the real names are. He’s spitballing based on a host of rumors. He doesn’t actually know what’s really going on right now. It doesn’t matter how accurate he was in the past.
People rapidly forgot the info that Kopite leaked and turned out true in the past.

As I have said, if anything Kopite's info suggests that its not him who hasn't got a clue, what Nvidia is doing, but rather Nvidia management themselves haven't got a clue what they want to do, and constantly change plans.
 
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Glo.

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This guy has literally made nearly every plausible prediction possible since Ampere has come out. There are higher vram cards, no there isn't. There is a GA103, no there isn't. There are TI models, no there aren't. There are super models, no there aren't.

When a person makes this many contradicting opinions, it stands to reason he is now currently begging for attention OR he's being fed bad information.
Or Nvidia has zero clue what to do, with their product stack.
 

Ajay

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People rapidly forgot the info that Kopite leaked and turned out true in the past.

As I have said, if anything Kopite's info suggests that its not him who hasn't got a clue, what Nvidia is doing, but rather Nvidia management themselves haven't got a clue what they want to do, and constantly change plans.
Yes, he did a great job with his early leaks on Ampere; I didn't forget that. I have no idea who this guy is, but there are other leakers who post less frequently and only when they have a pretty solid lock on the info. I guess that isn't his style. You may be right about Nvidia being in a tizzy; they've obviously blown this launch compared to AMD (though neither can meet demand :confused_old: ).
 

MrTeal

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LOL... Yeah, that comment hasn't aged super well. I'm enjoying it, but it's not a great look when my wife's asking what's broken with my computer when there's a half-naked V standing on my shoulders as I'm riding a motorcycle around the city.
 
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Mopetar

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Or Nvidia has zero clue what to do, with their product stack.
I wonder if it's trying to manage the supply chain for any product stack that's causing such problems more than anything. You can draw up all the grand plans based on brilliant ideas that you want, but reality has a way of getting in the way of all of them.

If they can't secure the memory or other components that they need it requires redrawing those plans until they have something that's workable.
 

Ajay

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LOL... Yeah, that comment hasn't aged super well. I'm enjoying it, but it's not a great look when my wife's asking what's broken with my computer when there's a half-naked V standing on my shoulders as I'm riding a motorcycle around the city.
Crumbs, I was looking forward to this once it got fixed, but with this sort of thing - it's game over (my computer desk is in the family room).
 

Ajay

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I wonder if it's trying to manage the supply chain for any product stack that's causing such problems more than anything. You can draw up all the grand plans based on brilliant ideas that you want, but reality has a way of getting in the way of all of them.
And with the tariffs kicking in, it's even more of a nightmare - what product mix can sell with +7.5 - 25% in extra $$s. Marketing departments must be losing their minds figuring out the product requirements. Oh, and the obligatory "Death to miners"
 

Ajay

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From Tom's: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx3050-ga107-folding-at-home

The following new / unreleased / unknown GPUs are listed in the file:

  • TU106GLM [Quadro RTX 3000 Mobile / Max-Q]
  • GA102 [GeForce RTX 3080 Ti]
  • GA102 [GeForce RTX 3080 20GB]
  • GA102 [GeForce RTX 3090 Engineering Sample]
  • GA102 [GeForce RTX 3080 11GB / 12GB Engineering Sample]
  • GA102GL
  • GA103
  • GA104 [GeForce RTX 3070 Ti]
  • GA104M [GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile / Max-Q 8GB/16GB]
  • GA104M [GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile / Max-Q]
  • GA104M [GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile 16GB]
  • GA104M [GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile / Max-Q]
  • GA104 [GeForce RTX 30x0 Engineering Sample]
  • GA104 [GeForce RTX 3060 Engineering Sample]
  • GA104 [GeForce RTX 3070 Engineering Sample]
  • GA104 [GeForce RTX 3070 Engineering Sample]
  • GA106 [GeForce RTX 3060 6GB / 12GB]
  • GA106
  • GA106M [GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile / Max-Q]
  • GA106 [GeForce RTX 3060 Engineering Sample]
  • GA107 [GeForce RTX 3050]
  • GA107 [GeForce RTX 3050 Engineering Sample]
  • Navi 22
  • Navi 23
 
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jpiniero

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And with the tariffs kicking in, it's even more of a nightmare - what product mix can sell with +7.5 - 25% in extra $$s. Marketing departments must be losing their minds figuring out the product requirements. Oh, and the obligatory "Death to miners"
If crypto prices have skyrocketed to the point where GPU mining is profitable, things aren't going to get better any time soon.

Inflation's a bitch.
 
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