Ames Straw Poll Will Catapult Ron Paul into the national spotlight

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Duddy
Ron Paul will place 1st in the Iowa poll.

...Among a small, vocal tent of supporters :laugh:

The rest of us here in Iowa will pick the straw of someone who actually has a chance

He'll place second. That i will bet on.

I'm not so sure on the second place thing. Immigration is a huge issue to a lot of caucus goers so Tancredo stands half a chance at piling up some support. Unfortunately I won't be able to attend the caucus this time around but if I were able to, I'd be taking my camcorder just to get the RP supporters reaction to losing.

They were happy with this.
http://schotlinepress.wordpres...own-county-straw-poll/
Paul is the only man gaining support.

WOW!!!:Q Up to 40 supporters now!? WOOT!!! WOOT!!!

:roll:


On the caucus though, it seems that even though some of the "big names" are skipping it - their names will still be on the ballots. RP had half a chance at getting 2nd if there were only 3 names there (mitt, RP, and Tancredo) but if all the names are going to be on there he doesn't stand a chance at getting 2nd or even 3rd. Hell, FDT isn't even in the race(officially) yet and he beat your guy in the straw poll you linked.:laugh:

I think i can pretty much assure you they aren't skipping polls because they anticipate doing well.

Doing well in relation to Mitt Romney, not in relation to Ron Paul...

Well duh.

Duh indeed. I thought Ron Paul was the point of this thread. I guess not

Ok then to translate the "duh", I think it's obvious they weren't initially concerned about Ron Paul.

(Sorry about the "duh", i guess it was a little immature.)

 

[Lemon law]

Well hate to agree with PJ but the news stories are figuring the real race is over who places second. Both Brownback and Huckabee have their hopes up on a second place and pretty soon we will start to see some of the weak sisters start to drop.

I doubt it will really phase Ron Paul who runs a low budget campaign and is in for the long haul. The rest are Dependant on funding and when funding dries up and blows away, so will they. And McCain is maybe in the Ron Paul boat, but unlike Ron Paul, McCain only gains if his views on Iraq are vindicated by events. And its on that very rock that McCain already busted as his views on Iraq got him from front runner to prophet without credibility.

Its somewhat odd when you have what amounts to a beauty contest being decided, not on how beautiful they are but on how much better or worse than expected that they do.

 

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14,302 ballots cast


11th place: John Cox (41 votes, 0.3%)
10th place: John McCain (101 votes, 0.7%)
9th place: Duncan Hunter (174 votes, 1.2%)
8th place: Rudy Giuliani (183 votes, 1.3%)
7th place: Fred Thompson (203 votes, 1.4%)
6th place: Tommy Thompson (1,039 votes, 7.3%)
5th place: Ron Paul (1,305 votes, 9.1%)
4th place: Tom Tancredo (1,961 votes, 13.7%)
3rd place: Sam Brownback (2,192 votes, 15.3%)
2nd place: Mike Huckabee (2,587 votes, 18.1%)
1st place: Mitt Romney (4,516 votes, 31.6%)

Read our coverage from throughout the day here.


I am satisfied!!

 

[iamaelephant]

Satisfied? Here's part of your OP:

Originally posted by: Perry404
I believe however that this will be the first major poll where the doubters can no longer deny the size & scope of Ron Pauls support. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Ron Paul will place at least second in the Ames straw poll.

 

[morkinva]

Yeh high five with ya Perry. I drink!

 

[iamaelephant]

And another...

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Duddy
Ron Paul will place 1st in the Iowa poll.

...Among a small, vocal tent of supporters :laugh:

The rest of us here in Iowa will pick the straw of someone who actually has a chance

He'll place second. That i will bet on.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
Satisfied? Here's part of your OP:

Originally posted by: Perry404
I believe however that this will be the first major poll where the doubters can no longer deny the size & scope of Ron Pauls support. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Ron Paul will place at least second in the Ames straw poll.

So i was overoptimistic and wrong. Isn't the first time. If you look at it realistically Romney spent ten times on Ames what Ron Paul did and Romney has been to every county in the state where as this was only Pauls third trip to Iowa ever. Although they weren't campaigning Paul finished ahead of Giuliani and Fred Thompson. That really is a powerful statement. Paul is going on and with half of the candidates dropping out his voice will be heard.

CHEERS RON PAUL SUPPORTERS!! :beer:

 

[Pabster]

Paul flopped, as predicted.

Romney ran away with it, as predicted.

/end thread

 

[morkinva]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Paul flopped, as predicted.

Romney ran away with it, as predicted.

/end thread

Dude, as usual you've completely deluded yourself. Please consider that Paul gave away 500 tickets to the straw poll, while Romney gave away 10,000. Now if Paul got MORE votes than the tickets he gave away, and Romney got LESS than what he gave away, who is on the upswing and who is going the other way?

/end blindness

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Perry404
August 11th Ames, Iowa is the first crucial poll. Every candidate knows the seriousness of the Ames straw poll and some will specifically not enter if they believe they will rank low in this poll due to the massive amount national press coverage. John McCain & Rudolph Giuliani are obviously anticipating low numbers so they have opted out of this poll.
Mitt Romney anticipates that he will do well and probably expects to sweep this poll.
http://www.mittromney.com/News...eleases/Ames_Statement

"Our plan all along has been to play in the Iowa straw poll, and that hasn't changed. Campaigns that have decided to abandon Ames are likely doing so out of a recognition that their organizations are outmatched and their message falls flat with Republican voters in Iowa"

I believe however that this will be the first major poll where the doubters can no longer deny the size & scope of Ron Pauls support. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Ron Paul will place at least second in the Ames straw poll. This is the point where he will be catapulted into the national spotlight and people who are limited to television news will finally begin to hear his message.

Here is the list of all participants.

http://www.iowagop.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=5305

Ron Paul supporters should be excited about this.

If you want to begin a career in comedy you can paste this quote on your resume... :laugh:

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Perry404
August 11th Ames, Iowa is the first crucial poll. Every candidate knows the seriousness of the Ames straw poll and some will specifically not enter if they believe they will rank low in this poll due to the massive amount national press coverage. John McCain & Rudolph Giuliani are obviously anticipating low numbers so they have opted out of this poll.
Mitt Romney anticipates that he will do well and probably expects to sweep this poll.
http://www.mittromney.com/News...eleases/Ames_Statement

"Our plan all along has been to play in the Iowa straw poll, and that hasn't changed. Campaigns that have decided to abandon Ames are likely doing so out of a recognition that their organizations are outmatched and their message falls flat with Republican voters in Iowa"

I believe however that this will be the first major poll where the doubters can no longer deny the size & scope of Ron Pauls support. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Ron Paul will place at least second in the Ames straw poll. This is the point where he will be catapulted into the national spotlight and people who are limited to television news will finally begin to hear his message.

Here is the list of all participants.

http://www.iowagop.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=5305

Ron Paul supporters should be excited about this.

If you want to begin a career in comedy you can paste this quote on your resume... :laugh:

Could have done worse. He was 9% off from second place.

Much better then most of the naysayers predicted.

 

[Lemon law]

On the principle of refraining from trolling under the wrong bridge, I still see the Republican field fairly deeply split. The best finisher, Romney, got less than one in three votes.
Had Giuliani and McCain made an honest effort, the question is how many votes would they have split off from that. Huckabee did very well for the money spent, coming in at one vote in about 5.5---trailed by Brownback at one vote in a little less than six. Even Tancredo came in at a little less than one vote in 7. With Ron Paul at one vote in 11. But candidates from neighboring States seems to have done well and candidates from distant States often failed to even formally run. Only Tommy Thompson seems to have lost big
and may decide to drop out.

Sooner or later the field will thin out separating the wheat from the chaff, but I don't see this straw poll as being the event that does much sorting.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Ron Paul is a joke......5th place and you had the big guns not even worried about it...so technically Ron paul took last place had the ones lower than him took this seriously at all.....

sad...9.1% of the vote...rofl...hahahahaaaaa....

It was sais the only place Ron paul might win at all is with his internet zealots...lolol

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Perry404
August 11th Ames, Iowa is the first crucial poll. Every candidate knows the seriousness of the Ames straw poll and some will specifically not enter if they believe they will rank low in this poll due to the massive amount national press coverage. John McCain & Rudolph Giuliani are obviously anticipating low numbers so they have opted out of this poll.
Mitt Romney anticipates that he will do well and probably expects to sweep this poll.
http://www.mittromney.com/News...eleases/Ames_Statement

"Our plan all along has been to play in the Iowa straw poll, and that hasn't changed. Campaigns that have decided to abandon Ames are likely doing so out of a recognition that their organizations are outmatched and their message falls flat with Republican voters in Iowa"

I believe however that this will be the first major poll where the doubters can no longer deny the size & scope of Ron Pauls support. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Ron Paul will place at least second in the Ames straw poll. This is the point where he will be catapulted into the national spotlight and people who are limited to television news will finally begin to hear his message.

Here is the list of all participants.

http://www.iowagop.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=5305

Ron Paul supporters should be excited about this.

If you want to begin a career in comedy you can paste this quote on your resume... :laugh:

Could have done worse. He was 9% off from second place.

Much better then most of the naysayers predicted.

The term 'grasping at straws' keeps running through my mind for some reason. I thought he was going to win this thing? Now you celebrate a fifth place finish? More RP supporter BS. Of course, 9% is way better than an *

 

[Lemon law]

Again, without commenting on any republican candidates positions, you had basically 11 candidates in the race. If Republicans were maximally divided, each would have received about 9.1 % of the vote. So I would assume any candidate with at least that 9.1% is credible.

Only later in some future vote in which all are actually competing can any real determinations be made. But an 11 person field is very large. To compete in the general election, any party hopes to come up with one candidate who can unite the party and the nation. And right now there seems to be too much shared love in Iowa.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Perry404
August 11th Ames, Iowa is the first crucial poll. Every candidate knows the seriousness of the Ames straw poll and some will specifically not enter if they believe they will rank low in this poll due to the massive amount national press coverage. John McCain & Rudolph Giuliani are obviously anticipating low numbers so they have opted out of this poll.
Mitt Romney anticipates that he will do well and probably expects to sweep this poll.
http://www.mittromney.com/News...eleases/Ames_Statement

"Our plan all along has been to play in the Iowa straw poll, and that hasn't changed. Campaigns that have decided to abandon Ames are likely doing so out of a recognition that their organizations are outmatched and their message falls flat with Republican voters in Iowa"

I believe however that this will be the first major poll where the doubters can no longer deny the size & scope of Ron Pauls support. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Ron Paul will place at least second in the Ames straw poll. This is the point where he will be catapulted into the national spotlight and people who are limited to television news will finally begin to hear his message.

Here is the list of all participants.

http://www.iowagop.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=5305

Ron Paul supporters should be excited about this.

If you want to begin a career in comedy you can paste this quote on your resume... :laugh:

Could have done worse. He was 9% off from second place.

Much better then most of the naysayers predicted.

He was also 9% off from losing to John Cox

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Perry404
August 11th Ames, Iowa is the first crucial poll. Every candidate knows the seriousness of the Ames straw poll and some will specifically not enter if they believe they will rank low in this poll due to the massive amount national press coverage. John McCain & Rudolph Giuliani are obviously anticipating low numbers so they have opted out of this poll.
Mitt Romney anticipates that he will do well and probably expects to sweep this poll.
http://www.mittromney.com/News...eleases/Ames_Statement

"Our plan all along has been to play in the Iowa straw poll, and that hasn't changed. Campaigns that have decided to abandon Ames are likely doing so out of a recognition that their organizations are outmatched and their message falls flat with Republican voters in Iowa"

I believe however that this will be the first major poll where the doubters can no longer deny the size & scope of Ron Pauls support. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Ron Paul will place at least second in the Ames straw poll. This is the point where he will be catapulted into the national spotlight and people who are limited to television news will finally begin to hear his message.

Here is the list of all participants.

http://www.iowagop.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=5305

Ron Paul supporters should be excited about this.

If you want to begin a career in comedy you can paste this quote on your resume... :laugh:

Could have done worse. He was 9% off from second place.

Much better then most of the naysayers predicted.

He was also 9% off from losing to John Cox

You're looking at it wrong. Ron Paul had 32 times as many votes as John Cox. You would have to multiply cox's votes by 63 in order to catch Mike Huckabee whereas Pauls votes would need to me multiplied by less than 2.:laugh:

 

[RaiderJ]

Placing 5th shows he is at least more than just an internet candidate. Maybe with these results he'll get some more face time on TV and debates.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Paul flopped, as predicted.

Romney ran away with it, as predicted.

/end thread

I don't see that getting LESS THAN 1/3 of the support (Actually 31.5%) is a show of support when you see who didn't even show -
Rudy, McCain, and 'He' Who Isn't Running.

What is concerning is how it does expose the extremist leanings of where the GOP is trying to move -
Romney scored 4,516 votes, 31.5 percent, to outpace former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee who had 2,587 votes,
18.1 percent. Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback was third with 2,192 votes, 15.3 percent.

The performance of nation wide un-electable candidates like Huckabee and Brownback show how the Evangelical Right are calling the shots -
at the cost any modorates, placing the Republicans in an even more unattenable position for gathering
any support except from the self destructive conservative extremists movement.

The more this support comes into play, the more radical the Conservative movement,
the more ellectable anyone from the Democratic Party becomes
- even Hillary or Obama.

Is the GOP relying on carring the elections on the strength of the Klan Voting Mentality?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

IMO Huckabee was the clear winner of the straw poll as this was really a race for 2nd place. Huckabee might get more of a look from some of the Conservatives across the nation now since McCain, Guliani, and Romney don't sit well with most Conservatives. Thompson(Tommy) supports will have to find a new guy, as will Tancredo's supporters. My guess is they won't go towards the RINO 3. I guess we'll have to see how Huckabee does with handling the surge of media he'll likely get from this unexpected(according the know-it-all media) 2nd place finish.

 

[Lemon law]

After somewhat looking at a pile of news accounts, I came across some stats. The claim being, that Huckabee only spent $100,000 on the straw poll and Romney dropped
2 Million bucks on TV adds alone. I have yet to find the total spending figures on Romney's total Iowa straw poll spending surge, but it sure looks like Huckabee is getting more
votes for the buck.

In some ways, the future will be dominated on who can attract the big chunks of Republican campaign spending.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Ron Paul supporters are also excited about every 911coverup.com and evilfederalreserve.org website updates, which is why he has no chance.

Too bad, as I think about 90% of his positions are very good ones.

Watch out for Tommy Thompson and Mike Huckabee.

Look, I'm like Dave the Seer!

 

[morkinva]

Jeez its like the fox spinroom in here.

Anyhow, t.thompson drops out... buh bye


edit>> so obvious

 

[Legend]

Originally posted by: morkinva
Jeez its like the fox spinroom in here.

Anyhow, t.thompson drops out... buh bye


edit>> so obvious

People that watch Fox News regularly must really fucking suck at math not to see that. Makes sense. People that eat up that propaganda probably aren't too bright.



As for Paul, he's doing okay. I thought his speech was well addressed towards the audience, and his message might spread which is probably the best thing he can do, revive real conservative values. It seems like that poll is kind of a joke too, because Romney basically bought all of his votes, didn't he?

 

[lozina]

Ron Paul did great considering the media black outs he receives compared to the rest of them

for example...