Ames Straw Poll Will Catapult Ron Paul into the national spotlight

[Duddy]

Ron Paul will place 1st in the Iowa poll.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: EndGame
Doing a bit of research it appears Ron Paul could emerge as the candidate of choice for the religious right. Look at Paul's stance on the issues and then look at the candidates supported by the religious right supported in the past.........scary......

Will he be the candidate of the Christian Right? By the Christian Right?s own criteria, their candidate ought to be Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is a man of faith. He is a Protestant Christian and a regular churchgoer.

Ron Paul is pro-life. As a specialist in obstetrics/gynecology, he has delivered more than 4,000 babies. Dr. Paul is not just an opponent of partial-birth abortion; he is an opponent of abortion itself. He is also opposed to federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

Ron Paul is a believer in family values. Unlike many Christian "leaders" and Republican politicians who have admitted to adulterous affairs and/or been married multiple times, Dr. Paul has been married to the same woman for fifty years. He and his wife have been blessed with five children and seventeen grandchildren.

Ron Paul is opposed to same-sex marriage. Although he doesn?t want to strip homosexuals of their civil rights, he has voted to prohibit federal funding for the joint adoption of a child between individuals who are not related by blood or marriage.

Ron Paul is a patriot. He served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1967. He opposes federal court jurisdiction over the question of whether the phrase "under God" should be included in the pledge of allegiance.

Ron Paul is opposed to unrestricted immigration. Because he believes that true citizenship requires cultural connections and an allegiance to the United States, he favors an end to birthright citizenship. And because he believes that it insults legal immigrants, he does not favor amnesty for illegal immigrants in any form. He opposes welfare state subsidies for illegal immigrants that alienate taxpayers and breed suspicion of immigrants. Dr. Paul also believes that all federal government business should be conducted in English.

Ron Paul is opposed to gun control. Not only does he believe that gun control makes people demonstrably less safe, he also thinks it?s a myth that gun control reduces crime. Representative Paul introduced legislation in Congress that would have repealed waiting periods and instant background checks.

Ron Paul is a strict constitutionalist. He never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. He has consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending, and regulation. Congressman Paul was recently recognized, for the tenth year in a row, as a "Taxpayer?s Friend" by the National Taxpayers Union.

Ron Paul is opposed to the United Nations. He has introduced legislation to withdraw the United States from the UN. Dr. Paul believes that the UN is rife with corruption. It serves as a forum for rampant anti-Americanism. Instead of being reformed, the UN needs to be renounced. Dr. Paul is against any kind of world government or new world order.

Ron Paul is the premier advocate for liberty in politics today. He believes in absolute religious and political liberty for all Americans. He strongly supports private property rights. He believes that government exists to protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens.
Ron Paul Candidate Of Cristian Right?

He now has HALF of all military contributions.

http://thespinfactor.com/thetr...-republican-candidates

 

[EndGame]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: EndGame
Doing a bit of research it appears Ron Paul could emerge as the candidate of choice for the religious right. Look at Paul's stance on the issues and then look at the candidates supported by the religious right supported in the past.........scary......

Will he be the candidate of the Christian Right? By the Christian Right?s own criteria, their candidate ought to be Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is a man of faith. He is a Protestant Christian and a regular churchgoer.

Ron Paul is pro-life. As a specialist in obstetrics/gynecology, he has delivered more than 4,000 babies. Dr. Paul is not just an opponent of partial-birth abortion; he is an opponent of abortion itself. He is also opposed to federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

Ron Paul is a believer in family values. Unlike many Christian "leaders" and Republican politicians who have admitted to adulterous affairs and/or been married multiple times, Dr. Paul has been married to the same woman for fifty years. He and his wife have been blessed with five children and seventeen grandchildren.

Ron Paul is opposed to same-sex marriage. Although he doesn?t want to strip homosexuals of their civil rights, he has voted to prohibit federal funding for the joint adoption of a child between individuals who are not related by blood or marriage.

Ron Paul is a patriot. He served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1967. He opposes federal court jurisdiction over the question of whether the phrase "under God" should be included in the pledge of allegiance.

Ron Paul is opposed to unrestricted immigration. Because he believes that true citizenship requires cultural connections and an allegiance to the United States, he favors an end to birthright citizenship. And because he believes that it insults legal immigrants, he does not favor amnesty for illegal immigrants in any form. He opposes welfare state subsidies for illegal immigrants that alienate taxpayers and breed suspicion of immigrants. Dr. Paul also believes that all federal government business should be conducted in English.

Ron Paul is opposed to gun control. Not only does he believe that gun control makes people demonstrably less safe, he also thinks it?s a myth that gun control reduces crime. Representative Paul introduced legislation in Congress that would have repealed waiting periods and instant background checks.

Ron Paul is a strict constitutionalist. He never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. He has consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending, and regulation. Congressman Paul was recently recognized, for the tenth year in a row, as a "Taxpayer?s Friend" by the National Taxpayers Union.

Ron Paul is opposed to the United Nations. He has introduced legislation to withdraw the United States from the UN. Dr. Paul believes that the UN is rife with corruption. It serves as a forum for rampant anti-Americanism. Instead of being reformed, the UN needs to be renounced. Dr. Paul is against any kind of world government or new world order.

Ron Paul is the premier advocate for liberty in politics today. He believes in absolute religious and political liberty for all Americans. He strongly supports private property rights. He believes that government exists to protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens.
Ron Paul Candidate Of Cristian Right?

He now has HALF of all military contributions.

http://thespinfactor.com/thetr...-republican-candidates

Hmm, half of the military contributions and growing, the religious right along with his "online army" as it were, a good portion of Dems. and Libs as well as minorities..........he should win by a landslide.......but will he?

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: EndGame

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: EndGame
Doing a bit of research it appears Ron Paul could emerge as the candidate of choice for the religious right. Look at Paul's stance on the issues and then look at the candidates supported by the religious right supported in the past.........scary......

Will he be the candidate of the Christian Right? By the Christian Right?s own criteria, their candidate ought to be Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is a man of faith. He is a Protestant Christian and a regular churchgoer.

Ron Paul is pro-life. As a specialist in obstetrics/gynecology, he has delivered more than 4,000 babies. Dr. Paul is not just an opponent of partial-birth abortion; he is an opponent of abortion itself. He is also opposed to federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

Ron Paul is a believer in family values. Unlike many Christian "leaders" and Republican politicians who have admitted to adulterous affairs and/or been married multiple times, Dr. Paul has been married to the same woman for fifty years. He and his wife have been blessed with five children and seventeen grandchildren.

Ron Paul is opposed to same-sex marriage. Although he doesn?t want to strip homosexuals of their civil rights, he has voted to prohibit federal funding for the joint adoption of a child between individuals who are not related by blood or marriage.

Ron Paul is a patriot. He served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1967. He opposes federal court jurisdiction over the question of whether the phrase "under God" should be included in the pledge of allegiance.

Ron Paul is opposed to unrestricted immigration. Because he believes that true citizenship requires cultural connections and an allegiance to the United States, he favors an end to birthright citizenship. And because he believes that it insults legal immigrants, he does not favor amnesty for illegal immigrants in any form. He opposes welfare state subsidies for illegal immigrants that alienate taxpayers and breed suspicion of immigrants. Dr. Paul also believes that all federal government business should be conducted in English.

Ron Paul is opposed to gun control. Not only does he believe that gun control makes people demonstrably less safe, he also thinks it?s a myth that gun control reduces crime. Representative Paul introduced legislation in Congress that would have repealed waiting periods and instant background checks.

Ron Paul is a strict constitutionalist. He never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. He has consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending, and regulation. Congressman Paul was recently recognized, for the tenth year in a row, as a "Taxpayer?s Friend" by the National Taxpayers Union.

Ron Paul is opposed to the United Nations. He has introduced legislation to withdraw the United States from the UN. Dr. Paul believes that the UN is rife with corruption. It serves as a forum for rampant anti-Americanism. Instead of being reformed, the UN needs to be renounced. Dr. Paul is against any kind of world government or new world order.

Ron Paul is the premier advocate for liberty in politics today. He believes in absolute religious and political liberty for all Americans. He strongly supports private property rights. He believes that government exists to protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens.
Ron Paul Candidate Of Cristian Right?

He now has HALF of all military contributions.

http://thespinfactor.com/thetr...-republican-candidates

Hmm, half of the military contributions and growing, the religious right along with his "online army" as it were, a good portion of Dems. and Libs as well as minorities..........he should win by a landslide.......but will he?

Here i am doing such a good job trying to forget the fact that it is not the people that elect but the electoral college. Then you have to come along and wake me from my trancelike state.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

/me slips on all the slobber covering the floor

 

[EndGame]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: EndGame

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: EndGame
Doing a bit of research it appears Ron Paul could emerge as the candidate of choice for the religious right. Look at Paul's stance on the issues and then look at the candidates supported by the religious right supported in the past.........scary......

Will he be the candidate of the Christian Right? By the Christian Right?s own criteria, their candidate ought to be Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is a man of faith. He is a Protestant Christian and a regular churchgoer.

Ron Paul is pro-life. As a specialist in obstetrics/gynecology, he has delivered more than 4,000 babies. Dr. Paul is not just an opponent of partial-birth abortion; he is an opponent of abortion itself. He is also opposed to federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

Ron Paul is a believer in family values. Unlike many Christian "leaders" and Republican politicians who have admitted to adulterous affairs and/or been married multiple times, Dr. Paul has been married to the same woman for fifty years. He and his wife have been blessed with five children and seventeen grandchildren.

Ron Paul is opposed to same-sex marriage. Although he doesn?t want to strip homosexuals of their civil rights, he has voted to prohibit federal funding for the joint adoption of a child between individuals who are not related by blood or marriage.

Ron Paul is a patriot. He served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1967. He opposes federal court jurisdiction over the question of whether the phrase "under God" should be included in the pledge of allegiance.

Ron Paul is opposed to unrestricted immigration. Because he believes that true citizenship requires cultural connections and an allegiance to the United States, he favors an end to birthright citizenship. And because he believes that it insults legal immigrants, he does not favor amnesty for illegal immigrants in any form. He opposes welfare state subsidies for illegal immigrants that alienate taxpayers and breed suspicion of immigrants. Dr. Paul also believes that all federal government business should be conducted in English.

Ron Paul is opposed to gun control. Not only does he believe that gun control makes people demonstrably less safe, he also thinks it?s a myth that gun control reduces crime. Representative Paul introduced legislation in Congress that would have repealed waiting periods and instant background checks.

Ron Paul is a strict constitutionalist. He never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. He has consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending, and regulation. Congressman Paul was recently recognized, for the tenth year in a row, as a "Taxpayer?s Friend" by the National Taxpayers Union.

Ron Paul is opposed to the United Nations. He has introduced legislation to withdraw the United States from the UN. Dr. Paul believes that the UN is rife with corruption. It serves as a forum for rampant anti-Americanism. Instead of being reformed, the UN needs to be renounced. Dr. Paul is against any kind of world government or new world order.

Ron Paul is the premier advocate for liberty in politics today. He believes in absolute religious and political liberty for all Americans. He strongly supports private property rights. He believes that government exists to protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens.
Ron Paul Candidate Of Cristian Right?

He now has HALF of all military contributions.

http://thespinfactor.com/thetr...-republican-candidates

Hmm, half of the military contributions and growing, the religious right along with his "online army" as it were, a good portion of Dems. and Libs as well as minorities..........he should win by a landslide.......but will he?

Here i am doing such a good job trying to forget the fact that it is not the people that elect but the electoral college. Then you have to come along and wake me from my trancelike state.

Welcome back to reallity......

 

[CADsortaGUY]

The faux RP hype:

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/3/3068799.html

Color me shocked.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The faux RP hype:

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/3/3068799.html

Color me shocked.

All that from 17 clicks? Wow. Drop a stone on that mans head and i bet he'll explain to us all how gravity works.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The faux RP hype:

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/3/3068799.html

Color me shocked.

All that from 17 clicks? Wow. Drop a stone on that mans head and i bet he'll explain to us all how gravity works.

And a follow-up.

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/5/3073285.html

Please be sure to read both of them -fully. Not that it'll change your mind.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The faux RP hype:

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/3/3068799.html

Color me shocked.

All that from 17 clicks? Wow. Drop a stone on that mans head and i bet he'll explain to us all how gravity works.

And a follow-up.

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/5/3073285.html

Please be sure to read both of them -fully. Not that it'll change your mind.

Change my mind about what? I believe there are people screwing around with polls. That's always been the case with the web. I do not however believe that it accounts for the majority of his support.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The faux RP hype:

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/3/3068799.html

Color me shocked.

All that from 17 clicks? Wow. Drop a stone on that mans head and i bet he'll explain to us all how gravity works.

And a follow-up.

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/5/3073285.html

Please be sure to read both of them -fully. Not that it'll change your mind.

Change my mind about what? I believe there are people screwing around with polls. That's always been the case with the web. I do not however believe that it accounts for the majority of his support.

I guess it wasn't you that said this then:

Originally posted by: Perry404
I think many people believe that but i have yet to see any evidence that all these Ron Paul supporters are running around on the internet looking for polls to skew and when they find one they call up all their fellow supporters in order to win the poll.

Same type of thing - spamming online polls and spamming digg(basically a popularity poll for a story).

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The faux RP hype:

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/3/3068799.html

Color me shocked.

All that from 17 clicks? Wow. Drop a stone on that mans head and i bet he'll explain to us all how gravity works.

And a follow-up.

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/5/3073285.html

Please be sure to read both of them -fully. Not that it'll change your mind.

Change my mind about what? I believe there are people screwing around with polls. That's always been the case with the web. I do not however believe that it accounts for the majority of his support.

I guess it wasn't you that said this then:

Originally posted by: Perry404
I think many people believe that but i have yet to see any evidence that all these Ron Paul supporters are running around on the internet looking for polls to skew and when they find one they call up all their fellow supporters in order to win the poll.

Same type of thing - spamming online polls and spamming digg(basically a popularity poll for a story).

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

And you don't think people are doing the Same for Obama and everyone else? Wake up.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
The faux RP hype:

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/3/3068799.html

Color me shocked.

All that from 17 clicks? Wow. Drop a stone on that mans head and i bet he'll explain to us all how gravity works.

And a follow-up.

http://www.iaocblog.com/blog/_.../2007/7/5/3073285.html

Please be sure to read both of them -fully. Not that it'll change your mind.

Change my mind about what? I believe there are people screwing around with polls. That's always been the case with the web. I do not however believe that it accounts for the majority of his support.

I guess it wasn't you that said this then:

Originally posted by: Perry404
I think many people believe that but i have yet to see any evidence that all these Ron Paul supporters are running around on the internet looking for polls to skew and when they find one they call up all their fellow supporters in order to win the poll.

Same type of thing - spamming online polls and spamming digg(basically a popularity poll for a story).

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

And you don't think people are doing the Same for Obama and everyone else? Wake up.

Well considering RP is scoring 60-70% in these polls and the rest of the candidates are lining up in logical order... I'd have to say no.

 

[Martin]

yeah, and Snakes on a Plane was a blockbuster movie as well, right?

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Ron who?

Fat chance.

He's the Republican version of Dean.

wow, I actually agree with Dave

 

[RU482]

hahaha, I can tell you, Iowa is a big Ag state. There are alot of sheep here

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY


Actually, debating how important they are is a big issue. Just because someone wins one or "does well"(no matter how subjective that is ) doesn't mean they deserve more attention.

Ok the precise part of the point I'm trying to make is that if Paul wins the poll abc, nbc, cbs fox, the Washington post, la times, Chicago tribune & ny times will all be arguing whether or not the poll means anything for Ron Paul. Therefor they will all be bringing up the subject of Ron Paul and the mass public will be forced to learn about him.

Whether or not the poll itself is important is secondary imho. (Atleast for Ron Paul)

Well, disregarding the fact that he won't win the straw poll, the polls validity is questionable since not all the candidates are taking part in it. When you have a couple of the "upper tier" not participate it means people may take their support to someone else in the poll when they actually wanted to support their guy.

Also, the straw poll will be a one or maybe two day news event - that's it.

It should be noted that RP does get some press and probably more press than his maybe 1% support deserves.

1%? That's old news, he's tripled his support and he's up to 3% so far.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Ron who?

Fat chance.

He's the Republican version of Dean.

That why he has a radical liberal view of foreign policy? He totally blew it with me on the first debate, and I?ll give you a tip, it wasn?t for anything resembling a Republican stance.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Ron who?

Fat chance.

He's the Republican version of Dean.

That why he has a radical liberal view of foreign policy? He totally blew it with me on the first debate, and I?ll give you a tip, it wasn?t for anything resembling a Republican stance.

Agreed, he needs to be more corrupt, lie more, have 0 principles, promise to expand the size and scope of gov't before he'll be attractive to you :roll:

 

[NaughtyGeek]

OK, for those of you harping on the online poll results, Fox's poll was a text message vote to keep the vote from being skewed by the "online nuts." He received 25% of the votes in that poll just behind Mitt Romney's 29% and well ahead of Rudy's 19%. Just because something can be manipulated doesn't mean it is manipulated. Source

You say "Ron who" but to what purpose? Are you in love with the corporate lapdogs that have been telling you what to think for so long now? Do you relish the thought of a continuing global policy of war and occupation to serve the financial interest's of the oil barons in this country? Is the thought of "Big Brother" watching and controlling every aspect of your life appealing to you? If so, go ahead and vote for what ever puppet the media tells you "has a shot" that you feel will represent you. Meanwhile, I'll "waste" my vote on a person who stands for a change this country desperately needs. Just remember, the greatest deed the devil ever accomplished was convincing society that he doesn't exist. The greatest accomplishment of the Democrats and Republicans is convincing society that there's actually a difference.

Never mind, go back to sleep.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: NaughtyGeek
OK, for those of you harping on the online poll results, Fox's poll was a text message vote to keep the vote from being skewed by the "online nuts." He received 25% of the votes in that poll just behind Mitt Romney's 29% and well ahead of Rudy's 19%. Just because something can be manipulated doesn't mean it is manipulated. Source

You say "Ron who" but to what purpose? Are you in love with the corporate lapdogs that have been telling you what to think for so long now? Do you relish the thought of a continuing global policy of war and occupation to serve the financial interest's of the oil barons in this country? Is the thought of "Big Brother" watching and controlling every aspect of your life appealing to you? If so, go ahead and vote for what ever puppet the media tells you "has a shot" that you feel will represent you. Meanwhile, I'll "waste" my vote on a person who stands for a change this country desperately needs. Just remember, the greatest deed the devil ever accomplished was convincing society that he doesn't exist. The greatest accomplishment of the Democrats and Republicans is convincing society that there's actually a difference.

Never mind, go back to sleep.

Obviously people who don't support RP are just blind sleeping corporate lapdog warmongering sheep... :roll:

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: NaughtyGeek
OK, for those of you harping on the online poll results, Fox's poll was a text message vote to keep the vote from being skewed by the "online nuts." He received 25% of the votes in that poll just behind Mitt Romney's 29% and well ahead of Rudy's 19%. Just because something can be manipulated doesn't mean it is manipulated. Source

And of course that poll just couldn't be manipulated either. There were never websites giving instructions to "Flood them with votes online and not just from your mobile" and with links on how to do that here And of course, there wasn't an effort to get lots of people to vote such as a link like this or this. And since one web forum isn't enough, they wouldn't have other forums begging everyone to text in. I mean, really, if they wanted to maniupulate, they wouldn't have posts like this in the previous link "The hell with fighting fair. This process of running for president is completely unfair to a candidate like Paul. Cheat, cheat, and cheat some more. Do whatever you can for Ron Paul."

And of course, the best evidence that polls aren't manipulated is this post:

Originally posted by: Perry404
I think many people believe that but i have yet to see any evidence that all these Ron Paul supporters are running around on the internet looking for polls to skew and when they find one they call up all their fellow supporters in order to win the poll.

 

[NaughtyGeek]

Obviously people who don't support RP are just blind sleeping corporate lapdog warmongering sheep...

No, there are other candidates out there that actually stand for something, I've just chosen mine. But, if you're voting for one of the "mainstream" candidates, then yes, that pretty well sums it up. I guess I did forget the "Nanny State" however.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: NaughtyGeek
OK, for those of you harping on the online poll results, Fox's poll was a text message vote to keep the vote from being skewed by the "online nuts." He received 25% of the votes in that poll just behind Mitt Romney's 29% and well ahead of Rudy's 19%. Just because something can be manipulated doesn't mean it is manipulated. Source

And of course that poll just couldn't be manipulated either. There were never websites giving instructions to "Flood them with votes online and not just from your mobile" and with links on how to do that here And of course, there wasn't an effort to get lots of people to vote such as a link like this or this. And since one web forum isn't enough, they wouldn't have other forums begging everyone to text in. I mean, really, if they wanted to maniupulate, they wouldn't have posts like this in the previous link "The hell with fighting fair. This process of running for president is completely unfair to a candidate like Paul. Cheat, cheat, and cheat some more. Do whatever you can for Ron Paul."

And of course, the best evidence that polls aren't manipulated is this post:

Originally posted by: Perry404
I think many people believe that but i have yet to see any evidence that all these Ron Paul supporters are running around on the internet looking for polls to skew and when they find one they call up all their fellow supporters in order to win the poll.

LOL...but the response was classic..

"NO. You will ruin his credibility."

He's doing that just fine by himself!

 

[flyfish]

Originally posted by: Duddy
Ron Paul will place 1st in the Iowa poll.